Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: [Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors
by Casey Jones
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Sent: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 20:31:21 +0200
From: Francesco Ugolini <francesco.ugolini(a)fedoraproject.org>
To: Casey Jones <caseyjones(a)runbox.com>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors
Yes, please write a message to the M-L with your modifications.
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
Casey Jones ha scritto:
> Okay. My apologies for having to have you resend. I remember now that you mentioned the specifics in a previous email. Thank you for resending them to me though.
>
> I agree with this now and see that it looks very feasible. May I add one more activity that would keep a person in the active status? I suggest that activity can also be measured by the ambassador burning and spreading CD's / DVD's with people new to Linux and Fedora. I think the media outreach is a great way to get people actively involved with the community. We could even provide a report that shares what the people thought who tried our CD's we distribute.
>
> Thanks so much for replying back personnally. We can re-direct this thread back to the main distro list if you'd like.
>
> Thank you!
>
> Casey
>
>
>
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> Sent: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:41:49 +0200
> From: Francesco Ugolini <francesco.ugolini(a)fedoraproject.org>
> To: Casey Jones <caseyjones(a)runbox.com>
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors
>
>> The Ambassadors who will stay inactive* for a year will be marked
>> Inactive in their personal wiki page and in the Ambassadors list.
>>
>> *(People that don't follow anything of this possible activities: Be a
>> speaker at an event, Collect feedback from community members,Promote
>> Fedora events, Distribute Press Releases to local press, Support and
>> Coordinate offline Fedora and Open Source activities, Participate in
>> weekly meetings, Follow Ambassadors Mailing lists etc... (if you have
>> more please tell me).)
>>
>> Casey Jones ha scritto:
>>> Okay. That sounds pretty good to me. Is there any way we can get a copy of the draft proposal you have written?
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Casey
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Sent: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 17:25:06 +0200
>>> From: Francesco Ugolini <francesco.ugolini(a)fedoraproject.org>
>>> To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
>>> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors
>>>
>>> Yes, in the final draft I've made I'm talking only about marking
>>> inactive ambassadors who don't do anything, it doesn't change the
>>> AccountSystem membership, it will be only a tool to remember an
>>> Ambassador that is in the project.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Francesco Ugolini
>>>
>>> Casey Jones ha scritto:
>>>> Hi Francesco,
>>>>
>>>> I definitely agree with what you are saying and the overall philosophy of having a defined community. I just didn't agree that threatening ambassadors with account suspensions is the way to go. I just feel if we can remain positive and encouraging, we'll get a lot more members who will be willing to stay active within the community.
>>>>
>>>> I think the point has definitely reached many of us more silent members. I will definitely contribute more to the discussions and share success stories when I can.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Casey
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Sent: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:20:29 +0200
>>>> From: Francesco Ugolini <francesco.ugolini(a)fedoraproject.org>
>>>> To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors
>>>>
>>>>> I want to repeat the reason of reports: we are a group, we must stay
>>>>> together, we can't absolutely work alone, if someone do this he won't be
>>>>> an ambassador but a simple user who share interest to others.
>>>>>
>>>>> A community is a group of people connected each other, it's the first
>>>>> requisite for a community to follow this simple rule.
>>>>>
>>>>> But here, how we can be connected each other? There is only an answer:
>>>>> reports, it doesn't matter if those are made trough irc, mailing lists,
>>>>> telephone, mail, email, it's important to communicate, if it would be
>>>>> different, we won't be a community.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Francesco Ugolini
>>>>>
>>>>> Casey Jones ha scritto:
>>>>>> Jeffrey made some really good points. When I first joined this group, what initially drew me in was the open-minded attitude of the entire team. Right from the beginning, everyone was very warm and welcoming. That positive attitude inspired me to be a very active and vocal supporter of Fedora in my line of work. I work with lots of very talented I.T. professionals who are very linux-savvy. Many of them wouldn't have given any thought to trying Fedora as they were already Ubuntu, Debian, and Slackware fans. But, I have already gotten many of them to switch to Fedora and utilize its out-of-the-box security features and networking tools. We are incorporating Fedora LiveCDs into our processes at work as well. I wouldn't have known about any of this had it not been for this group just allowing me to be a "fly-on-the-wall" for so long in the discussions. True, I should be sharing success stories, but with over 1,000,000 Fedora 6 downloads worldwide, this group's su
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>> e
>>>> ss
>>>>> s
>>>>>> tories are not new news anymore. That is a tribute to this incredible operating system and this team. And, I would rather let the group focus on resolving issues than take more time just hearing success stories.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But, because I don't report my success stories, I could see the inclination of the group to categorize me as "inactive." I would have no problem with marking my name in the wiki as "inactive." But, please allow folks like me to remain permanent members so that we can continue gathering information that is critical to helping us help Fedora in the long run.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My other concern is that if we start to formalize this group too much that it becomes a corporate bureaucracy, we are taking Fedora away from the whole free spirited thinking that makes up the greater Linux community. If a newcomer were to read terms and conditions that laid out these new rules the group is proposing, I would be worried they would be turned away because they would fear they wouldn't be able to keep up their active status for long due to their busy schedules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think the intentions of this discussion are very good. I just don't agree exactly with the proposed solution.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Casey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Sent: Tue, 03 Apr 2007 17:56:22 -0400
>>>>>> From: Jeffrey Tadlock <linux(a)elfshadow.net>
>>>>>> To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Active/Inactive Ambassadors
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Francesco Ugolini wrote:
>>>>>>>> Active Ambassador is a person who report his work, it's not important to
>>>>>>>> do this trough M-L or irc, he can send a mail to FAmSCo or to another
>>>>>>>> ambassadors that will report your activity, but we need reports.
>>>>>>> An active ambassador is someone that promotes Fedora - whether it be at
>>>>>>> work, to friends and family, to their local LUG or at Open Source events
>>>>>>> near them. Reporting of those events is just icing on the cake.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, communication is good and should certainly be encouraged. But to
>>>>>>> declare people such as Tony and Casey and certainly many others inactive
>>>>>>> because they didn't report what they do on a regular basis is *very*
>>>>>>> short-sighted. Why do we even want to risk alienating these people?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As someone else mentioned - having inactive ambassadors costs the
>>>>>>> project nothing. Trying to weed out inactive (I still haven't been
>>>>>>> convinced we have a good way to determine activity yet) can cause much
>>>>>>> more harm than any good it can bring us.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Where does the rest of FAMSCO stand on this issue?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Jeffrey
>>>>>>>
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17 years, 1 month
Event: BarCampbangalore Report
by Kushal Das
Hi,
This weekend I went to barcampbangalore3 (http://dgplug.org/intro/tutorials).
People from different trends came there, though the number of FOSS people was
not so bad. Me personally, started looking for people with Fedora on their
laptops. Talked with them, about the current progress of Fedora.
Most of them never new about different SIG(s). People were really pleased with
the effort of the GAME SIG (that was thing I demonstrated most ). Xmoto &
OpenArena simply rocked there.
Also met with a new social network site team, http://mymuv.com . I am very
pleased to tell you that they are using RoR on Fedora Core 6 servers :)
I asked them for the details about those servers.
You can find some pictures at
http://www.flickr.com/photos/kushaldas/sets/72157600042276013/
Kushal
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Fedora Ambassador, India
http://kushaldas.in
17 years, 1 month
presenting fedora
by Manuel Wolfshant
Hi all
I just was invited to speak at some students' seminars. I would like
to offer a couple of fedora dvds and to go dressed in a fedora T-shirt. So
1) I would like to receive suggestions on what DVD to use: FC7t3?
LiveDVD (does there exists such a beast) ?
2) I will record the discs myself. However I do not feel like hand
writing on each one and my printer cannot print on disks. I wonder, how
does one label them ? Printed leaflets attached to the envelope of the
disc ?
3) Does there exist a formal model of Fedora T-shirt that can be
printed, or better yet sewn ? I mean something with a quality good
enough to take it on a disc at go at a specialized shop.
4) Any presentations I can use for inspiration, beside Chitlesh's ?
manuel
17 years, 1 month
Re: Room / Bed for Linuxtag
by Claus Reheis
On Tue, 2007-04-03 at 09:55 +0200, Gerold Kassube wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> as you all know, you are booth staff of the German Linuxtag and you have
> requested your room at the WIKI at
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/LinuxTag/LinuxTag2007/Rooms
>
> Also, you all know, that Max Spevack promised that the Project will try
> to pay a (undefined yet) amount for our accommodation. That's great in
> my eyes!
>
> Since a couple of weeks I stay in contact with our Ambassador Kushal Das
> from India (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KushalDas) who answered the
> CFP (call for paper) from Linuxtag and also waits for an answer to get
> the high costs paid / sponsored by Linuxtag to attend the event and
> also ...
>
> ... to hold an talk for RFID.
>
> He did not get an answer for sponsoring from the ORGA Team of Linuxtag.
> By asking me for help, I suggested to ask Max for the sponsoring of his
> travel costs. Max agreed that he has to be sponsored and guaranteed his
> flight costs. OUTSTANDING job Max, thanks!
>
> The next issue with him is now that he is talking to friends that he
> will get a "private credit" that he can attend because he needs food,
> bed and so on ...
>
> Me personally wants now to ask you all guys if it`s not possible to pay
> him the bed in the triple rooms at our hostel so he has one issue less
> that he has to take care for.
>
> And also personally I'd like to abandon on my private RH/Fedora
> Sponsorship for accomodation if we can get this issue solved like
> suggested.
> If we all pay EURO 1,50 more that the hostel costs for our own, we have
> covered him ...
No problem for me!
+1
>
> Do you have any other idea?
>
>
> Just my five cents.
>
Claus Reheis
17 years, 1 month
Feedback/survey Form template
by Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail
Is theres any template for feedback form available somewhere for
ambassadors use?
I believe there are types of contents that are useful for
FedoraProject and those that are not. A random survey without goals I
dont think it'll be useful.
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Hikaru
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Amano Hikaru
天野晃 「あまの ひかる」
Universiti Teknologi PETRONAS
ICT 2nd Year 1st Semester
mohd.izhar.firdaus(a)gmail.com
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Blog: http://kagesenshi.blogspot.com
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17 years, 1 month
Need a suggestion
by Aravind Seshadri
Hi all,
Microsoft is visiting my campus on Wednesday (4/4/7) for a Microsoft
Vista and Office 2007 Campus Launch
(https://www.clicktoattend.com/invitation.aspx?code=116373). I guess the
event will probably be attended by Windows power users and IT
professionals.
I have registered to attend the event and I was just thinking may be I
can do something during that event to promote Fedora. I may print some
flyer about Fedora and also may be give some live demos of fc7t3. I am
sure some of them might be interested in the cool desktop effects. I am
not sure if I can make live distros and hand it to program participants.
If anyone has any suggestions kindly let me know. Thanks.
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aravind
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17 years, 1 month
Mascot
by Rodrigo Padula de Oliveira
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