Re: budgets for all regions (was Re: [Ambassadors] NA EventsExpectation Proposal)
by David Anderson
Indeed, that's why I feel that something simple like pens and such (magnets maybe) would probably be better. If it was actual discussions and the conventions sole purpose was installfest or familiarity w/ Fedora than something along the lines of t-shirts or that level would be better.
-david.
>On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:45 PM, David Anderson <dca(a)projectcellular.com>
>wrote:
>> The only reason I bring it up as volunteering for the Florida Linux Show
>(Orlando) in
>> October as possibly a ticket-taker or other odd-job I can leave a bunch of
>the pens on
>> the table(s). Don't know, this is the first Linux show in Florida I've been
>to, heck most of the
>>shows I have been to were more general hosted by VMware or IBM...
>
>I have to say I think swag is far more effective when someone gets to
>chat with the people getting it. I'm not sure it gets us much value to
>just leave it sitting about.
>
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Re: budgets for all regions (was Re: [Ambassadors] NA EventsExpectation Proposal)
by David Anderson
>On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:39 PM, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 1:35 PM, David Anderson <dca(a)projectcellular.com>
>wrote:
>>> Maybe we can still get them here with a discount?
>>>
>>> http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37
>>
>> I've looked at pens in the past as swag for FAmNA. The cost of BIC
>> type stick pens isn't overly much. If people really think pens would
>> make valuable advertising swag I can go pricing them again and see
>> what we can do. I recall them being under $1 at least. Buttons and
>> tattoos are quite a bit cheaper.
>
>Well if this is any indication that might not be so clear.
>
>http://www.brandedpens.com/bic_clic_stic.htm
>
I guess it depends on what's the norm? If the show was an actual Fedora or RH sponsored event than I can see the need for excess amounts of swag, but if it's something more along the lines of simple exposure, nothing more - than perhaps simple stuff like pens & bags would be fine... I'll try and do up some CDs as well...
-david.
>That is cheap enough if there is interest I could start lobbying for
>getting some lined up for future events.
>
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Re: budgets for all regions (was Re: [Ambassadors] NA EventsExpectation Proposal)
by David Anderson
Maybe we can still get them here with a discount?
http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37
...just kidding...
-david.
>I agree on the pens idea. I used to carry around a AMD Athlon64 Ink
>pen and it always sparked conversations with tech inclined people. I
>could see a fedora pen being even better :)
>
>-Adam
>
>2009/3/27 Marspet ** <bugz.inc(a)gmail.com>:
>> fedora pens seems like a great idea
>>
>>
>> 2009/3/27 David Anderson <dca(a)projectcellular.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> >2009/3/27 David Anderson <dca(a)projectcellular.com>:
>>> >> I know this is way out but is anybody planning on going to the Florida
>>> >Linux
>>>
>>> >>
>>> Show - Orlando in October? I'm spoken for as a volunteer of the overall
>>> >> event but would be happy to help if anything needs to be set up, etc?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >I travelled to the Florida Linux Show in Jacksonville and spoke a few
>>> >weeks ago, and Jack Aboutboul travelled down last year. I can't speak
>>> >to last year, though I hear through the grapevine that it was
>>> >disappointing. This year's Jacksonville show was very disappointing as
>>> >well from a turnout perspective; personally I wouldn't make the drive
>>> >(6 hours each way) again, but if someone was close we'd be happy to
>>> >equip you with swag, etc. I don't think any of us have experience with
>>> >the Orlando show, but I'd be concerned given the booth prices (I
>>> >assume the 600 dollar booth fee is the same regardless of the city)
>>> >and the low turnout we saw in JAX this year.
>>> >
>>>
>>> That's good to know, as it gets closer to that time I'll find out some
>>> more. Can't think of anything that would be needed besides something
>>> simple: pens or bags, etc. I'll probably be a ticket-taker at the
>entrance
>>> so even if it's nothing more than an upside-down box with items on it,
>that
>>> would probably be fine...
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Hi partners...
by bm90fox
I have seen many new ambassadors, and I am glad to see so many
sub-projects under way. It's good to see so many people around the
world who want to work hard with Fedora. I'm planning a poll in my
village for the degree of knowledge of Linux and thus the opportunity
to introduce Fedora in my area
My best regards for all
Manuel E Hidalgo
Gacheta, Cundinamarca
Colombia
15 years, 1 month
Revisiting FADNA (was: Re: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2008-12-17)
by Larry Cafiero
An observation while cursing the bad timing of my final exams (and not being
able to address this issue last night):
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 9:57 PM, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> * FADNA
>
> - Larry Cafiero sent mail to f-a-l indicating willingness to take
> ownership of hosting FADNA at SCaLE in February.
>
> - Discussion about several possible alternate sites and timing.
>
> - Agreed to let Larry run with this, need to discuss it in more
> detail during the coming week and sign off officially at next
> week's meeting if all goes well.
>
> - Not likely to be very much in our Q4 budget for this so we need
> to try to proceed prudently.
>
> * Q4 Budget [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget]
Until last night, I don't believe Linuxfest Northwest in April was brought
up as an option for FADNA. Until now, my impression, wrongly it appears, was
that we were locked into either SCaLE or SELF, the latter of which was
deemed to be too close to FUDcon.
If LFNW is an option, we should look at it closely, not only because of the
time factor involved -- both in organizational terms as well as financial
terms (this falls in Q1, right?) -- but also in the fact that this is an
historical year for LFNW, it's 10th anniversary.
I'll retain ownership of this, needless to say, but I think it might be best
to take a closer look at LFNW rather than rush to make SCaLE. I'll do the
legwork on both and report back during the course of the week and have
something for Tuesday's meeting. But those are my thoughts after reading the
minutes and, naturally, I welcome input on the issue. Lots.
Larry Cafiero
15 years, 1 month
Summary of decision at today's FAmSCo meeting: Inactive Ambassadors
by David Nalley
As you'll see in the forthcoming meeting minutes, FAmSCo voted on dealing with inactive Ambassadors in this weeks meeting. There were other discussions that occurred at the FAmSCo meeting, but not decision was made, this summary is limited to how FAmSCo voted to handle inactive Ambassadors.
You may recall that over the years that this discussion has regularly popped up on the Fedora list. One of the problems that was consistently faced, in those discussions was a means of determining whether an Ambassador was active or not. It was often hard to tell what was going on in the regional or local space, and the large variety of ways of being active within the scope of the Ambassadors subproject.. An arbitrary standard that could be applied to all fairly was a missing piece. There have also been attempts in multiple regions to confirm whether an Ambassador is active by sending them an email and asking them to respond, these met with what can at best be described as marginal success. For better or worse, that has left us with no good way to regularly maintain membership like other subprojects such as Art and Package Maintainers have in place.
Recently however Fedora's Infrastructure team forced a password reset to mitigate a security vulnerability. This involved sending out numerous emails notifiying and reminding people of the fact that this password reset was mandatory and failure to act would result in their Fedora account being marked inactive and thus unusable unless a password reset occurred. This effectively meant that all Fedora services (Talk, wiki edits, cvs, fedorahosted, etc) were unavailable to people who chose to ignore the repeated directions.
This provided us with an ideal arbitrary, test that was easy to apply to everyone, and provides something far more manageable than "I'm here" messages.
To give you an idea of the scope of the problem, we asked Infrastructure to tell us how many Ambassador accounts were marked inactive. Out of 772 Ambassadors 300 of them were marked inactive. I was honestly shocked it was that high, but really given that we are 3 years into this project it doesn't surprise me that this is the case. It is natural in any project for people to leave or become disinterested.
FAmSCo voted on the following proposal in its regularly scheduled meeting this week:
That FAmSCo direct the Ambassador Membership Service to request from Infrastructure a list of all users who are Ambassadors and whose account has remained inactive for a period of greater than 30 days after a password reset, and further that FAmSCo direct the Membership Service to purge said users from the Ambassadors list
At the time 5 members of FAmSCo were present, and 5 +1's were recorded, and thus the proposal passed.
FAmSCo realizes this is a topic that has and will likely continue to cause much consternation. So I'll note a few points. This in no way stops a person from re-applying to the Ambassadors should they find themselves purged under this policy. I fully expect that no one who reads this will be hindered by this policy as it is still possible to reset your password and thus change your account to an active state. (go here to do that: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/login)
In all honesty there was discussion that we should wait on Infrastructure and let them do the purging. (Infrastructure has indicated to FAmSCo that in the coming months they will be removing all groups from a Fedora Account that is inactive in order to truly mitigate the security risk.) As easy as that would have been to do, global policy for the Ambassadors project is the responsibility of FAmSCo and we won't shirk that duty.
I am sure there will be a flurry of questions and comments about this policy. I encourage you to post to this thread or another on the mailing list. That said please feel free to contact me or any member of FAmSCo directly via email or find us on IRC.
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Fw: [Ambassadors] Please REPLY to this mail (or you will be *removed* from the Ambassadors Country list.)
by rishi setiya
Hey I'm also here
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I guess I'm here, too.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 22:17, Jonathan Basse <jbasse(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
Still here as well !
2009/3/1 Emilio Simpkins <unidentified221(a)gmail.com>:
> Still here.
> What Im doing is trying to get the computers in the networking lab at school
> to run F10, and trying to convience my Networking teacher that all distros
> arnt the same.
>
> 2009/2/28 G <balajig81(a)gmail.com>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> My activities so far as
>>
>> FEDORA AMBASSADOR
>>
>> 1.I was successful in converting projects running Suse/Debian to fedora at
>> my workplace but unfortunately these systems IP dont get updated in Smolt as
>> everything is behind proxy and receiving securiy updates and using latest
>> versions of gnome or kde doesnt seem to be a big necssisty Hence most of
>> them run F9 and some of the projects use F8 and even F6 (due to customer
>> requirements) .
>>
>> 2. Have been part of the Fedora Free Media Program
>>
>> 3. i have done quite a lot of work in updating the wiki pages undert the
>> Ambassador Section.
>>
>> 4. I have been in talks with my company to conduct some Workshops as
>> install fests does not interest lot of them. Workshops would be more focused
>> on how to contribute to an Open Source Project and the point of focus would
>> be fedora.
>>
>> 5. I have been satisfying the DVD requests that i get from many people.
>>
>> 6. I interact with Susmit on quite a regular basis and help the community
>> to share some of the work on wiki pages under ambassador section.
>>
>> 7. I have participated in ambassador meetings and have given my opinions
>> and suggestions too. I am able to push fedora in my organization and use it
>> in the workplace for telecom projects.
>>
>> DEVELOPER/CONTRIBUTOR
>>
>> 1. I have started to contribute to Packagekit
>>
>> 2. I write articles/HowTos to fedoraunity.org
>>
>> 3. I did some gardening work in the Wiki though i am not able to do it
>> currently.
>>
>> 4. I would like to act as a mentor in fedora but am not sure the contact
>> person for this.
>>
>>
>> WHAT I LOOK FORWARD TO ?
>>
>> Currently i am not in need of anything apart from the support from the
>> community which i get when i need it :). I would like to continue my
>> efforts.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Balaji
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 7:41 AM, susmit shannigrahi
>> <thinklinux.ssh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> You are receiving this message because you are listed as a member of the
>>> Fedora Ambassadors Project and You are from India.
>>>
>>> I am performing some housekeeping as decided by FAmSCo.
>>>
>>> If you would like to remain listed as an Ambassador, please respond to
>>> this message letting me know that you are still with us.
>>>
>>> Also please let me know what you are working on and if you need any
>>> resources for that. We will work for arranging that.
>>>
>>> If you do not want to remain listed as an Ambassador, please send me
>>> an email saying that you wish to be removed.
>>>
>>> If I don't hear from you by Saturday, 07 March, 2009, you will be
>>> removed from this[1] country list of ambassadors.
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for all the efforts you are extending to Fedora.
>>>
>>> Hope to hear from you soon.
>>>
>>> [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>> Susmit.
>>>
>>> =============================================
>>> ssh
>>> 0x86DD170A
>>> http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit
>>> =============================================
>>> Sent from: Calcutta Wb India.
>>
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Re: budgets for all regions (was Re: [Ambassadors] NA EventsExpectation Proposal)
by David Anderson
>2009/3/27 David Anderson <dca(a)projectcellular.com>:
>> I know this is way out but is anybody planning on going to the Florida
>Linux
>> Show - Orlando in October? I'm spoken for as a volunteer of the overall
>> event but would be happy to help if anything needs to be set up, etc?
>
>
>I travelled to the Florida Linux Show in Jacksonville and spoke a few
>weeks ago, and Jack Aboutboul travelled down last year. I can't speak
>to last year, though I hear through the grapevine that it was
>disappointing. This year's Jacksonville show was very disappointing as
>well from a turnout perspective; personally I wouldn't make the drive
>(6 hours each way) again, but if someone was close we'd be happy to
>equip you with swag, etc. I don't think any of us have experience with
>the Orlando show, but I'd be concerned given the booth prices (I
>assume the 600 dollar booth fee is the same regardless of the city)
>and the low turnout we saw in JAX this year.
>
That's good to know, as it gets closer to that time I'll find out some more. Can't think of anything that would be needed besides something simple: pens or bags, etc. I'll probably be a ticket-taker at the entrance so even if it's nothing more than an upside-down box with items on it, that would probably be fine...
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Re: budgets for all regions (was Re: [Ambassadors] NA EventsExpectation Proposal)
by David Anderson
>On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 05:17:46PM +0100, Max Spevack wrote:
>
>> Our budget is a zero-sum game, after all. I'd think that we could
>> decide, regionally, on a list of events that we'd like to sponsor, and
>> then stagger those sponsorships into various quarters, and/or spread
>> them over a year or two. That way we're paying our respect, but not
>> doing so at the cost of other budgetary needs.
>
>Doing this, we might be able to sponsor something later in the year
>by providing the sponsorship money up front a few quarters in
>advance. With a year-long schedule worked out, you can take extra
>money at the end of a Q and send it along to a predetermined list of
>sponsored events.
>
I know this is way out but is anybody planning on going to the Florida Linux Show - Orlando in October? I'm spoken for as a volunteer of the overall event but would be happy to help if anything needs to be set up, etc?
>What we're finding challenging IMO in North America is that we don't
>yet know what our important events are. And there are so many of
>them!
>
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FAmSCo regional meetings schedule
by Francesco Ugolini
Hi,
during the last FAmSCo meeting [1] we planned a series of FAmSCo
regional meetings to have in-depth discussion with the most active
ambassadors in each region. This will give you and us the possibility
to understand what it could be done to improve the ambassadors
experience.
This is the proposed schedule for such meetings (dd/MM/yy):
02/04/2009 - NA
16/04/2009 - EMEA
30/04/2009 - India/APJ
07/05/2009 - LATAM
I invite all the interested to add the topics you want to discuss
(about your region) directly in this thread.
[1] https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-March/msg004...
Regards
Francesco Ugolini
15 years, 1 month
