Technical talks wanted: 10 years Unix User Group Rhein-Neckar e.V.
by Robert Scheck
Hello everybody,
a colleague sitting next to me is member of the foundation "Unix User Group
Rhein-Neckar e.V." [1] here in Southern Germany, which has 10th anniversary
[2] at July 3rd/4th, 2009.
And for that event, some technical talks are searched and wanted, maybe
also Fedora specific ones. All that will take place in Schwetzingen, which
is near to Heidelberg and Mannheim. I'm pretty sure, we've ambassadors in
that area, which maybe want to show up and give a technical talk. Details
can be found in the links below as well.
If you are going to give a talk, please get in touch with Raphael Becker
being at Cc: auf this e-mail, he's the president of the board of that NPO.
For any questions, don't hesitate to ask, I'll try to help and/or forward
the questions to the appropriate people.
[1] http://www.uugrn.org/
[2] https://wiki.uugrn.org/UUGRN:10_Jahre_UUGRN_e.V.
Greetings,
Robert
15 years
Re: [fedora-india] Sendmail setup assistance on Fedora 10
by Rishikesh Sharma
Yes, I have tried with the how to's available on internet but i have got
error message when i tried to send email from gmail to my mail server "The
error that the other server returned was: 550 550 "
When i tried to send email to gmail from my mail server account it got error
as "deffered, no route to host."
Regards,
Rishikesh Sharma
On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 6:59 PM, Ritesh Sinha <sinha.k.ritesh(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Rishikesh,
>
> Have you tried any of the howtos available on the internet? You can
> find some good tips here
>
> http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/sendmail_smtp_auth_tls/
>
> You might also consider postfix which is slightly easier to setup than
> sendmail.
>
> A guide for that can be found here
> http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/sendmail_smtp_auth_tls/
>
>
> Regards,
> Ritesh
>
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Rishikesh Sharma
> <rishikesh(a)fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> > Hi Everybody,
> >
> > I want to setup sendmail as internet mail server to receive and send
> emails
> > with the domain csmanipur.com. I have already created MX record on my
> dns
> > server. I am currently able to send recieve emails locally with sendmail.
> >
> > I need a working configuration or need help on how to configure sendmail
> to
> > able to send and recieve emails from internet with my domain
> csmanipur.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rishikesh Sharma
> > Fedora Ambassador.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Fedora-india mailing list
> > Fedora-india(a)redhat.com
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Fedora-india mailing list
> Fedora-india(a)redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-india
>
15 years
Sendmail setup assistance on Fedora 10
by Rishikesh Sharma
Hi Everybody,
I want to setup sendmail as internet mail server to receive and send emails
with the domain csmanipur.com. I have already created MX record on my dns
server. I am currently able to send recieve emails locally with sendmail.
I need a working configuration or need help on how to configure sendmail to
able to send and recieve emails from internet with my domain csmanipur.com
Thanks,
Rishikesh Sharma
Fedora Ambassador.
15 years
REMINDER French Meeting today 1830UTC #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot
This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and
_every_ interested people.
2009-05-10 / 18:30 UTC
IRC: freenode
#fedora-meeting
Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones,
qui aura lieu ce dimanche (10 mai.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur
IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting .
L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page :
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions
N'hésitez pas à le modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent
intéressants.
Merci de répondre à ce message en cas d'indisponibilité.
Thomas Canniot
15 years
FAmNA Meeting Minutes from 2009-05-07
by inode0
(08:00:28 PM) inode0: FAmNA Meeting - agenda @
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-07
(08:00:29 PM) StabbyMc: .fasinfo smcbrien
(08:00:30 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: User: smcbrien, Name: None, email:
scott(a)mcbrien.net, Creation: 2009-02-21, IRC Nick: StabbyMc, Timezone:
None, Locale: None, Extension: 5125272, GPG key ID: None, Status:
active
(08:00:33 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: Approved Groups: cla_done ambassadors cla_fedora
(08:00:35 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: Unapproved Groups: None
(08:00:41 PM) inode0: wait for roll call StabbyMc :)
(08:00:44 PM) lcafiero: are we in session?
(08:00:50 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: and use .fas :)
(08:00:56 PM) StabbyMc: 'tis 9:00!
(08:00:59 PM) VileGent: .fas jbwillia
(08:01:00 PM) zodbot: VileGent: jbwillia 'Ben Williams'
<jbwillia(a)math.vt.edu> - jbwilliams 'Jason Williams'
<jb.williams(a)tiscali.co.uk>
(08:01:07 PM) inode0: it is immensely helpful if you use .wikilink instead
(08:01:22 PM) ***StabbyMc waits for roll call ...
(08:01:38 PM) herlo: inode0: I kind of disagree, wikilink is not cool
(08:02:00 PM) inode0: I'm the one moving it to the wiki so what helps
me matters more
(08:02:32 PM) inode0: doesn't that cut and paste into the list of
people attending?
(08:03:00 PM) inode0: Roll Call - I'll test
(08:03:05 PM) inode0: .wikilink inode0
(08:03:07 PM) zodbot: inode0: [[User:inode0|John T. Rose]]
(08:03:09 PM) StabbyMc: .wikilink smcbrien
(08:03:10 PM) zodbot: StabbyMc: [[User:smcbrien|]]
(08:03:20 PM) inode0: ok, maybe not
(08:03:34 PM) VileGent: .wikilink jbwillia
(08:03:36 PM) zodbot: VileGent: [[User:jbwillia|Ben Williams]]
(08:03:38 PM) djf_jeff: .wikilink jfsaucier
(08:03:40 PM) zodbot: djf_jeff: [[User:jfsaucier|Jean-Francois Saucier]]
(08:03:40 PM) lcafiero: so . . .
(08:03:46 PM) lcafiero: .wikilink lcafiero
(08:03:48 PM) zodbot: lcafiero: [[User:lcafiero|Larry Cafiero]]
(08:04:14 PM) ninjazjb_: .wikilink Jasonbrown17
(08:04:16 PM) zodbot: ninjazjb_: User "Jasonbrown17" doesn't exist
(08:04:27 PM) ninjazjb_: .wikilink jasonbrown17
(08:04:29 PM) zodbot: ninjazjb_: [[User:jasonbrown17|Jason Brown]]
(08:06:04 PM) StabbyMc: More roll-call?
(08:06:20 PM) inode0: Are there any announcements that won't be
covered in the events or other sections of the meeting?
(08:06:59 PM) inode0: StabbyMc hides his name too
(08:07:05 PM) inode0: all round troublemaker
(08:07:27 PM) StabbyMc: inode0: lets not forget jerk, big, big jerk.
(08:07:52 PM) inode0: Ok, then let's take a quick look at events
(08:07:57 PM) ***herlo wants to announce something
(08:08:01 PM) inode0: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
(08:08:09 PM) ***herlo got pulled away on a phone call for a second...
(08:08:28 PM) herlo: or should I wait inode0 ?
(08:08:38 PM) ***inode0 notes that in Q1 we have events listed for
sudan and greece and other non-NA places
(08:08:55 PM) inode0: what are you wanting to do herlo?
(08:09:23 PM) inode0: oh, sorry, missed that - go ahead and announce away!
(08:09:35 PM) herlo: inode0: just wanting to mention that Fedora
Classroom is looking for presenters (I do this every time I'm here).
however, we've changed the format to a much more flexible format
(08:09:58 PM) inode0: yes, a good change I think
(08:10:05 PM) herlo: if you wish to present on anything on June 7,
sign up for any time all day (UTC) at
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom
(08:10:06 PM) StabbyMc: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom ?
(08:10:17 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: yes, and your's is correcter than mine
(08:10:49 PM) herlo: the idea being that we've got a much wider range
of presenters to gather during a 24 hour period
(08:11:11 PM) inode0: definitely, and a wider range of students too
(08:11:21 PM) herlo: also, I wanted to point out that we have a fedora
classroom mailing list now, and that we'll be starting to suggest
topics and announce events there as to not cause havoc to other
mailing lists as much
(08:11:30 PM) herlo: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/classroom
(08:11:30 PM) StabbyMc: herlo: the new format is 1 day not two, +
larger gaps between sessions?
(08:11:36 PM) leitz: herlo, I love the idea. Am in the middle of an
interstate move but hope to be involved more later.
(08:11:43 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: can be, but it's much more open yes
(08:11:57 PM) StabbyMc: herlo: Does this mean I name my own time?
(08:12:03 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: it is only 1 day, but if you think
about it, it really spans 2 days
(08:12:06 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: yep!
(08:12:18 PM) StabbyMc: V. Cool.
(08:12:41 PM) herlo: from 00:00UTC (that's like 8pm EDT) to 23:00 UTC
(7pm EDT). The times might be off an hour or two
(08:12:59 PM) herlo: so go sign up on the mailing list
(08:13:05 PM) herlo: and we'll get the party started :)
(08:13:10 PM) ***herlo is eof
(08:13:18 PM) inode0: good information
(08:13:20 PM) crossbytes: sorry had to run out..all caught up now on reading ..
(08:13:27 PM) inode0: moving back to events now
(08:13:34 PM) herlo: crossbytes: sounds like a common thing :)
(08:13:38 PM) StabbyMc: herlo: heard anything more from Spevak about
new classroom?
(08:13:48 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: in what sense?
(08:13:49 PM) inode0: can I get a volunteer to fix the NA section so
it only has NA events?
(08:13:58 PM) ***StabbyMc will shut up now and wait until later.
(08:14:05 PM) StabbyMc: inode0: on it.
(08:14:05 PM) herlo: inode0: what happened?
(08:14:25 PM) inode0: do you not see the EMEA events in our Q1 list?
(08:14:41 PM) herlo: I do now
(08:14:45 PM) ***herlo hadn't looked
(08:14:51 PM) inode0: and actually our Q1 event in EMEAs too
(08:14:55 PM) herlo: we should probably also send a reminder email to
the ambassador list about that
(08:15:04 PM) herlo: so did it just get swapped?
(08:15:07 PM) inode0: ok, thanks StabbyMc
(08:15:28 PM) inode0: I don't know, I noticed it right before the meeting
(08:15:31 PM) herlo: nope, doesn't appear we have any q1 events there...
(08:15:47 PM) herlo: inode0: one thing about that too. It'd be nice
if we kept the events there for the entire quarter.
(08:15:55 PM) inode0: the canada event is both places
(08:15:57 PM) herlo: it is hard to know what events took place without
that list...
(08:16:20 PM) herlo: indeed, canadia is not part of EMEA, however :)
(08:16:43 PM) StabbyMc: Fixy.
(08:16:55 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: hum, excuse me, that was me this afternoon...
(08:16:57 PM) inode0: herlo: I agree, will try to remember to ask Max
to relax for a quarter
(08:16:59 PM) herlo: inode0: so my point was, last quarter, I saw that
the events would drop off right after they were finished. I think
that defeats the purpose of the event page...
(08:17:01 PM) djf_jeff: don't know how that happen...
(08:17:07 PM) herlo: inode0: oh, did max do that?
(08:17:10 PM) StabbyMc: Though I think they may have deleted our Q1
events, I had one there, now, no.
(08:17:17 PM) inode0: he normally manages that page iirc
(08:17:24 PM) herlo: StabbyMc: check the archive too, and history
(08:17:35 PM) herlo: k, I think I mentioned it to him the other day
(08:17:49 PM) djf_jeff: I will correct my fault, will not be long
(08:18:06 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: no problem djf_jeff - not sure what went wrong
(08:18:37 PM) inode0: more importantly we need to begin talking about
Q2 events now
(08:19:52 PM) inode0: let me take a minute to express one concern
several people in FAmNA share
(08:20:04 PM) djf_jeff: done for the edit
(08:22:05 PM) inode0: feeling responsibility to be a good shepherd of
Fedora's resources and feeling like we are mostly randomly assigning
funding to events is bothering some of us a bit
(08:22:35 PM) herlo: how so?
(08:22:52 PM) inode0: we would like to (a) not micromanage how funds
are spent for events but (b) have some basis for giving this event
$250 and that event $1,000
(08:23:09 PM) StabbyMc: Q1 events according to history were moved to archive...
(08:24:14 PM) inode0: so can we do anything to achieve those goals
that doesn't offend or burden people too much?
(08:25:10 PM) herlo: inode0: a couple thoughts...
(08:25:14 PM) inode0: we have 5 pretty important Q2 events coming up
(08:25:26 PM) herlo: we could set up some rough guidelines based upon
size and need
(08:25:54 PM) leitz: And expereince of presenter--I'd trust someone
who has done this for a while.
(08:25:57 PM) herlo: maybe we could get the event organizer to submit
a simple proposal for funds. I think that'd be the easiest to get
money
(08:26:18 PM) herlo: something like:
(08:26:23 PM) herlo: Booth costs: $50
(08:26:36 PM) herlo: Room Costs: $150
(08:26:40 PM) herlo: etc...
(08:26:45 PM) herlo: depending on what it is...
(08:26:53 PM) inode0: I would be very happy if event owners could
submit a rough budget outline and request an amount
(08:26:57 PM) herlo: and it can be evaluated at each meeting ??
(08:27:03 PM) ninjazjb_: this was never done before?
(08:27:18 PM) herlo: ninjazjb_: it was done by FAmSCo before us
(08:27:26 PM) ninjazjb_: o
(08:27:32 PM) inode0: we have worked from funding events in a similar
fashion to how FAmSCo funded them so far
(08:27:38 PM) herlo: and they didn't really dole it out definitively either...
(08:27:59 PM) ***djf_jeff need to go out for 5 minutes
(08:28:09 PM) inode0: so if FAmSCo gave event X $750 and event Y was
similar to X we guessed $750 to be reasonable
(08:28:21 PM) herlo: right
(08:28:55 PM) ninjazjb_: i c
(08:29:08 PM) inode0: but I know I would be happier if the funding was
more directed toward need rather than just saying here is a pile of
cash - go find a way to spend it
(08:29:42 PM) inode0: herlo: certainly we can always revisit needs as
they arise too
(08:29:44 PM) herlo: a lot of the funding will probably be spent (this
year) in getting people to places where we don't normally have a
presence. I think this is important
(08:29:55 PM) inode0: and our goal is to give every event what they need
(08:30:12 PM) herlo: if we pay for travel this year, we get a
community there next year and lower costs for running the event/FAD
(08:30:25 PM) ***herlo thinks that's what will happen at LFNW, for instance
(08:31:16 PM) crossbytes: I think the costs like herlo said would also
matter on how many people were how close to the event and costs of
Hotels vary dramatically place to place..
(08:31:25 PM) inode0: does anyone object to the idea of event owners
making a specific request for a funding level based on something early
on?
(08:31:59 PM) ninjazjb_: would there be a separate wiki page for proposals?
(08:32:08 PM) leitz: No objection, assuming it can be adjusted as data comes in.
(08:32:13 PM) herlo: +1 inode0
(08:32:21 PM) inode0: crossbytes: traditionally people expenses
haven't been in the mix - so while we are trying to accommodate those
I really don't want ambassadors getting used to them :)
(08:32:30 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: +1
(08:32:36 PM) VileGent: maybe a tracker would work better for this
(08:33:15 PM) herlo: VileGent: could be, we could use the
famnaregionals trac instance for this too (or similar)
(08:33:42 PM) VileGent: herlo something
(08:34:34 PM) lcafiero: people expenses should be in the mix.
(08:34:38 PM) inode0: ok, then event owners for Q2 events please think
about this and try to submit a request by our first June meeting?
(08:35:05 PM) lcafiero: and they'll go way down when people in the
areas where events take place take the reins.
(08:35:26 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: no problem for me
(08:35:55 PM) inode0: lcafiero: there are differing opinions on this
and the history is that they haven't been
(08:36:28 PM) herlo: inode0: agreed
(08:36:33 PM) inode0: I think even people who side with the
traditional approach are agreeable to doing this to ramp things up now
(08:36:34 PM) lcafiero: right, inode0, but you don't have events when
you don't have people at them.
(08:36:37 PM) herlo: make sure we make a big announcement about this
(08:36:38 PM) leitz: Maybe the prospective Ambassador should work the
area and ensure community exists. Worked for Billy Grahm
(08:37:28 PM) herlo: leitz: I think what we're doing is building
community. In some (many) cases, the community is there, but not
organized. We need to travel some and build that community
(08:37:41 PM) inode0: lcafiero: actually what you have is events where
Fedora is represented by Red Hat employees which is not bad but also
isn't ideal
(08:38:06 PM) leitz: herlo--what I mean is that Billy Grahm didn't do
a revival in an area until the community pre-existed for post-event
support.
(08:38:29 PM) leitz: Otherwise you're spending time and money on
something without making sure the long-term growth potential is there.
(08:39:08 PM) ***lcafiero checks and finds he's not a red hat employee.
(08:39:10 PM) inode0: we should work on developing a local presence at
the major conference locations that don't already have them
(08:39:14 PM) leitz: So if the ambassador got with some college
students or developers in the area before the event, you'd have a
greater chance for success.
(08:39:32 PM) herlo: leitz: that's why conferences are so great. The
community comes there and is hunting for ways to participate :)
(08:39:45 PM) inode0: lcafiero: and if you hadn't gone to LFNW Fedora
would have been represented by Red Hat employees right?
(08:40:07 PM) lcafiero: Um, if I hadn't done the organizing, probably
not. But I don't know that for sure.
(08:40:10 PM) inode0: I think it was better to have you there
(08:40:49 PM) lcafiero: Then I don't see the objection to spending
funds to get people to places where needed, especially when said
people are taking time and making the effort.
(08:41:12 PM) lcafiero: Just an opinion.
(08:41:20 PM) inode0: lcafiero: actually no one objected
(08:41:33 PM) inode0: I objected to expecting it :)
(08:42:18 PM) leitz: If the Ambassadors are doing the pre-event work
with the local community, I think it's a great idea.
(08:42:34 PM) inode0: this really was a question about feeling like we
have some idea what we are doing when we allocate budget for events
(08:42:46 PM) lcafiero: your comment to crossbytes -- did I
misunderstand that as an objection to spending funds to get people to
places?
(08:42:54 PM) lcafiero: crossbytes: traditionally people expenses
haven't been in the mix - so while we are trying to accommodate those
I really don't want ambassadors getting used to them :)
(08:43:08 PM) inode0: that was a warning that ambassadors should not
expect funding to go to events
(08:43:08 PM) lcafiero: (direct quote from above)
(08:43:59 PM) lcafiero: Right. Once folks get organized and in place
-- something we succeeded with at LFNW -- that cost will go way down.
(08:44:16 PM) herlo: indeed
(08:44:21 PM) VileGent: i meanted i was going to SELF to my lug and it
is looking like 3-4 more are coming as well
(08:44:24 PM) inode0: that is one goal
(08:44:48 PM) StabbyMc: Anyone flying into Atlanta for SELF that wants
a ride to Clemson?
(08:44:49 PM) lcafiero: But I don't think we should have ambassadors
second-guessing whether to take the reins of an event because they're
apprehensive about asking for travel.
(08:45:04 PM) herlo: I think inode0's argument is that we don't just
want to pay for a random ambassador to show up to an event unless
we're getting value. That said, value usually comes with those
in-between experiences at a conference.
(08:45:09 PM) herlo: or event
(08:45:12 PM) lcafiero: Agreed.
(08:45:41 PM) lcafiero: Fortunately at LFNW, it was the perfect storm
because everyone contributed above and beyond.
(08:45:51 PM) ninjazjb_: i assumed that was implied as a vounteer
(08:45:52 PM) inode0: and I don't think taking the reigns should make
an ambassador expect to be funded for his expenses
(08:45:59 PM) herlo: spevack has argued this for years, I've seen gdk
do it too, and I am quite sure many, many others (including quiad)
would agree that having ambassadors at every event is very important.
(08:46:07 PM) inode0: it should be a case by case thing
(08:46:59 PM) herlo: ninjazjb_: right, we're all volunteers.
Sometimes though, you need assistance to accomplish the tasks that
benefit the community. Money can help in those cases...we're just
asking for a bit of formality now :)
(08:47:11 PM) inode0: I think we've spent more than enough on that, agreed?
(08:47:16 PM) herlo: yep
(08:47:20 PM) ninjazjb_: yeah
(08:47:59 PM) lcafiero: no, but I'll stand aside. go ahead with the
rest of the meeting.
(08:48:12 PM) leitz: Would this be a case where you have more than one
level of Ambassador and privilidge?
(08:48:21 PM) inode0: So the folks who have Q2 events please start
thinking hard about budgets and make a specific (even though we
understand it might be rough) funding request in June
(08:48:44 PM) leitz: Someone who has done this before might get more
$$ and more freedom than someone learning the ropes, like me.
(08:48:52 PM) inode0: leitz: that is one big argument against funding
travel - it can appear to create a class system of ambassadors and
that isn't good
(08:49:01 PM) inode0: at least I don't think that is good
(08:49:31 PM) ninjazjb_: i wouldnt expect as being a newby to get
funding for projects...
(08:49:35 PM) leitz: As a most junior member, it doesn't bohter me at
all. You pring more value, you get more freedom.
(08:49:46 PM) leitz: pring/bring
(08:49:57 PM) StabbyMc: I think that's silly. If the same rules for
travel reimbursement apply to everyone and they're applied evenly, it
won't be a problem.
(08:50:00 PM) lcafiero: Weren't we moving on?
(08:50:53 PM) inode0: yes, let's do
(08:51:06 PM) leitz: +1
(08:51:10 PM) inode0: Does anyone know anything about NECC? It doesn't
have an owner listed.
(08:51:45 PM) herlo: inode0: we should find out who put it up and get
them to help us find an owner
(08:53:20 PM) inode0: ok
(08:53:39 PM) inode0: two pretty quick requests for help
(08:53:45 PM) inode0: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget
(08:53:52 PM) inode0: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks
(08:54:01 PM) inode0: these have issues
(08:54:06 PM) herlo: inode0: I can do the budget one
(08:54:10 PM) herlo: what needs to be done?
(08:54:11 PM) inode0: mostly from not being used or kept up to date
(08:54:25 PM) herlo: I assume that I just need to go through and clean
it up and identify what we've spent?
(08:54:51 PM) inode0: my request is for everyone who gets budget for
whatever to take the responsibility to make the budget page accurate
as events unfold
(08:54:59 PM) herlo: +1
(08:55:13 PM) djf_jeff: +1
(08:55:34 PM) leitz: +1
(08:55:37 PM) inode0: some of the new guys, doing swag work, probably
don't know about this so I'll talk to them later
(08:55:55 PM) lcafiero: +1
(08:57:46 PM) inode0: the tasks page I would like to really make the
same request for help with
(08:58:21 PM) inode0: if you do a task please add it, if documents for
project leaders and funders what you have done, and what FAmNA has
done
(08:58:45 PM) herlo: I think these are great ideas
(08:59:44 PM) inode0: I would like to sneak in the scheduling
discussion before release parties
(09:00:06 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: no problem with that
(09:00:26 PM) ***herlo has to go...
(09:00:28 PM) inode0: this is the penultimate meeting during our
experiment of switching meeting days
(09:00:37 PM) inode0: herlo: I'll cover for you
(09:00:50 PM) herlo: do I need to do something? I can wait 5 mins
(09:01:00 PM) VileGent: inode link to tasks page please
(09:01:12 PM) inode0: herlo: no, not unless you will say something
different from our earlier conversation
(09:01:35 PM) inode0: VileGent: last link I pasted
(09:01:35 PM) herlo: ahh, indeed
(09:01:54 PM) inode0: ok, starting in June we have no schedule
(09:01:57 PM) inode0: for meetings
(09:02:25 PM) inode0: I'd like to take a vote between continuing
alternating and always meeting on the same day
(09:02:38 PM) inode0: does that sound reasonable? any other wishes?
(09:02:59 PM) ninjazjb_: i vote for the same day (if possible)
(09:03:09 PM) lcafiero: same day
(09:03:28 PM) StabbyMc: same day
(09:03:31 PM) inode0: I guess we'll being voting then :)
(09:03:34 PM) dthomasdigital: I'm late
(09:03:37 PM) inode0: begin
(09:03:45 PM) lcafiero: vote dthomasdigital vote!
(09:03:48 PM) VileGent: same day
(09:04:01 PM) djf_jeff: djf_jeff: same day if it's not thursday
because I can't attend 90% of the time...
(09:04:06 PM) dthomasdigital: Tuesday's Twice a month
(09:04:09 PM) lcafiero: same day
(09:04:14 PM) inode0: wait
(09:04:16 PM) ***VileGent motions for tuesdays
(09:04:21 PM) dthomasdigital: same day
(09:04:21 PM) inode0: wait
(09:04:31 PM) inode0: here are the initial choices
(09:04:44 PM) inode0: (1) alternating between Tuesday and Thursday
(09:04:51 PM) inode0: (2) meeting on the same day
(09:04:58 PM) StabbyMc: 2
(09:05:04 PM) VileGent: 2
(09:05:05 PM) ninjazjb_: 2
(09:05:06 PM) inode0: if (2) wins we will vote on whether it is
Tuesday or Thursday
(09:05:08 PM) dthomasdigital: 2
(09:05:18 PM) djf_jeff: 2
(09:05:23 PM) crossbytes: 2
(09:05:43 PM) inode0: ok, now I get to be the oddball again
(09:06:07 PM) inode0: I prefer (2) but I think (1) has substantially
increased participation
(09:06:13 PM) lcafiero: 2
(09:06:43 PM) inode0: so I'm going to vote 1
(09:06:50 PM) leitz: Then vote 3, same day, more people. :P
(09:07:14 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: if everyone here on a thursday vote to
switch to tuesday, I think we got everyone involved
(09:07:28 PM) inode0: for the record please also indicate a vote for
Tuesday or Thursday
(09:07:35 PM) ninjazjb_: tuesday
(09:07:47 PM) VileGent: tuesday
(09:07:48 PM) crossbytes: tuesday
(09:07:48 PM) djf_jeff: tuesday
(09:07:49 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: we will also take votes at the next
Tuesday meeting
(09:07:55 PM) StabbyMc: Thursday
(09:07:57 PM) dthomasdigital: tuesday
(09:08:01 PM) lcafiero: tuesday
(09:08:10 PM) ***StabbyMc conceedes to tyrany of the majority!
(09:08:17 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: ah ok, didn't know that
(09:08:35 PM) inode0: StabbyMc: tonight's vote is only part - the
folks who come to the meeting on Tuesday's get to vote as well
(09:09:05 PM) inode0: has everyone who want to voted on this tonight?
(09:09:18 PM) inode0: oh, I forgot to
(09:09:20 PM) leitz: Yes. I'm more lurker than decider. :)
(09:09:22 PM) inode0: Tuesday
(09:10:05 PM) inode0: ok, we'll conclude the voting in a couple of
weeks but I suspect we can all guess where this is headed
(09:10:27 PM) inode0: Release Parties!
(09:11:11 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: can we give you some help?
(09:12:12 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: are you still with us?
(09:12:29 PM) djf_jeff: not necessarily help, more to see what others are doing
(09:12:53 PM) inode0: ah, ok. feel free to just have the floor
(09:12:58 PM) dthomasdigital: inode0 I just got the proof from the
manufacturer and it looks exactly the way duffy wanted it, I Ok'd the
proof so we should have the case badges real soon.
(09:13:02 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: are you around for SELF?
(09:13:02 PM) djf_jeff: it is the first release party in Quebec and I
just want to see what others are planning, etc
(09:13:37 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital: thanks for the update and thank
you for your work making that happen
(09:13:43 PM) dthomasdigital: We are New Mexico will be having it's
first release party as well for fedora.
(09:13:54 PM) lcafiero: We'll be having a release party on June 6 at
the Felton LUG meeting.
(09:13:55 PM) djf_jeff: if there are ressources (graphics, etc)
already available
(09:14:18 PM) ***inode0 steps away briefly - carry on
(09:15:03 PM) djf_jeff: I plan to do some posters to announce the
release party with a friend here, I will try to post them to the
mailing list if it can help anyone
(09:15:22 PM) dthomasdigital: djf_jeff that would be great
(09:15:57 PM) lcafiero: Cabrillo College will have one as well, I'm
sure, but the LUG meets on the third Friday so it won't be until June
19 (I think)
(09:16:23 PM) dthomasdigital: When is 11's release date?
(09:16:44 PM) djf_jeff: May 26, normally
(09:17:05 PM) leitz: My anniversary...should be easy to remember.
(09:17:26 PM) djf_jeff: leitz: you will a beautiful gift on this day ;)
(09:17:42 PM) leitz: Thank you, one and all! ;)
(09:19:08 PM) djf_jeff: good, I will try to post every graphics we do
to the mailing list
(09:20:00 PM) djf_jeff: I am impatient to see how many people will
come to the release party, ~75 people came to the ubuntu party last
week
(09:20:48 PM) inode0: Did you guys see Francesco's call for a release
party planning meeting?
(09:21:29 PM) inode0: He expressed I think a little disappointment at
today's FAmSCo meeting at the lack of response to it
(09:22:26 PM) dthomasdigital: I did, I was at work so I could not give
it the time I needed
(09:22:59 PM) djf_jeff: one question I had was is there anything
(pencil, stickers, etc) I can get for the release party? I didn't want
to order a complete ambassador kits to waste the F10 DVD...
(09:23:16 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: no, just see it, wonder how I miss it
(09:23:30 PM) inode0:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-ambassadors-list/2009-April/msg002...
(09:24:11 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: order an ambassador kit regardless if
you haven't
(09:24:31 PM) inode0: and ask for whatever supplies you need for your
release party too
(09:25:07 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: good, will do it tomorrow
(09:25:15 PM) inode0: and everyone please consider a usb station at
your party and advertise its availability
(09:25:52 PM) crossbytes: is there artwork for a usb station yet?
(09:26:02 PM) ***inode0 doesn't know
(09:26:37 PM) ***leitz doesn't know the details of a USB station...
(09:26:39 PM) inode0: it isn't required though - just a laptop
(09:26:45 PM) crossbytes: I thought it would be good to have it for
the event box ..
(09:26:59 PM) crossbytes: the artwork not the laptop..
(09:27:30 PM) StabbyMc: I have a T40 or T41 that could be in the event
box, if someone wanted ...
(09:28:01 PM) inode0: we have laptops donated by HP for all the event
boxes - those aren't used at release parties though
(09:29:02 PM) inode0: it is very easy to set up your laptop to create
bootable usb sticks with Fedora for people
(09:29:16 PM) VileGent: ok aters battleaxe says bedtime
(09:29:24 PM) inode0: night VileGent
(09:29:41 PM) djf_jeff: good night
(09:29:49 PM) leitz: night night
(09:29:53 PM) ninjazjb_: night
(09:30:20 PM) inode0: let me mention before we wrap up that davdunc
has ordered 10,000 Fedora logo tattoos for our upcoming events as well
(09:30:29 PM) inode0: those should be arriving in the next couple of weeks
(09:30:31 PM) lcafiero: +1
(09:31:02 PM) inode0: and let me encourage everyone else that
producing swag for us isn't that hard to do
(09:31:05 PM) crossbytes: +1
(09:31:17 PM) inode0: and the more we distribute that work the easier
it is for everyone who does it
(09:31:29 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: just before you close up, I want to
ask if that's a good thing to open a Canada section for FreeMedia like
I ask before, just in time for F11
(09:31:41 PM) inode0: dthomasdigital and davdunc joined the swag
producing minions of Fedora recently
(09:31:58 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: absolutely
(09:32:21 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: If you have time I'd like to talk with
you after the meeting briefly too
(09:32:44 PM) djf_jeff: there is no Canada section at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia so I was
wondering if I can start it
(09:32:55 PM) djf_jeff: inode0: no problem
(09:33:06 PM) inode0: so if anyone would like help by arranging Fedora
stickers or Fedora pens or anything else please please please talk
with us
(09:33:17 PM) inode0: we can help you through the process
(09:33:41 PM) inode0: djf_jeff: yes, absolutely, do it!
(09:34:06 PM) dthomasdigital: I will testify to that inode0 and lots
of folks at red hat helped me a lot with the case badge project.
(09:34:18 PM) inode0: good opportunity to remind everyone that you
very seldom actually need anyone's permission to do anything :)
(09:34:29 PM) djf_jeff: good, will do tomorrow
(09:34:40 PM) StabbyMc: is maxamillion defeated on pens?
(09:35:02 PM) inode0: we want you to do things you enjoy, if they
aren't being done just grab hold of them and start doing them
(09:35:37 PM) leitz: I have the same philospohy in marriage...
(09:36:01 PM) ***inode0 reminds leitz this meeting is logged forever
(09:36:11 PM) ninjazjb_: lol
(09:36:13 PM) dthomasdigital: lol
(09:36:27 PM) inode0: and can be used in divorce proceedings
(09:37:26 PM) ***leitz is too old and slow to catch anyone execpt the
one he already caught...
(09:37:30 PM) inode0: are there any other open floor items for tonight?
(09:38:58 PM) inode0: ok, let's wrap this meeting then and carry on in
#fedora-ambassadors
(09:39:20 PM) inode0: thank you all for coming as always, next meeting
on the 3rd Tuesday in May
(09:39:22 PM) inode0: 5
(09:39:23 PM) inode0: 4
(09:39:25 PM) inode0: 3
(09:39:27 PM) inode0: 2
(09:39:29 PM) inode0: 1
(09:39:38 PM) inode0: EOM
15 years
FAmNA Meeting Summary from 2009-05-07
by inode0
* Announcements
- herlo announced exciting new changes in the Fedora Classroom structure
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom
as well as the new Fedora Classroom mailing list
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/classroom
* Events [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents]
- several ambassadors pitched in to clean up some errant events on the wiki
- herlo requested that events not be archived so quickly, it is easier
to look back at what we have done recently if we keep at least the
previous quarter's events still on the main events page on the wiki
- discussion of Q2 event funding (and event funding in general) followed
* inode0 expressed some discomfort about the way this has been handled
in the past, funds being allocated based more on the level of previous
similar events than on the actual needs of the particular event
* inode0 suggested two goals
(a) not have FAmNA micromanage event expenses but
(b) give FAmNA some basis on which to allocate $250 to one event
and $1,000 to another event
Can these be achieved without imposing too much of a burden on event
owners?
* herlo suggested event owners submit a simple proposal for funds
enumerating what can be enumerated (booth expense, room costs, etc.)
* there seemed to be general agreement on herlo's idea and we ask that
event owners for Q2 events submit funding requests at the first
FAmNA meeting in June with the understanding that FAmNA will be
flexible about adjusting these early funding levels when circumstances
change
* it was also noted that our ultimate goal is to provide each event with
what it needs but we have finite resources available at any point in
time and spending here means not spending there
- inode0 observed that in Q2 NECC doesn't have an owner listed, does
someone want to be the owner?
* Budget Review [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget]
- inode0 requested that as ambassadors spend money that they take it
upon themselves to update our budget page to accurately reflect our
spending - this should be a part of the standard operating procedure
* Tasks [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Tasks]
- inode0 requested that ambassadors who take on tasks add them to our
task page also - this record of our work reflects well on both the
ambassador who does the work and on FAmNA as a whole and helps Max
and others see what we are accomplishing
* Q2 and beyond meeting schedule planning
- we have been meeting on the 1st Thursday and 3rd Tuesday each month
throughout Q1 as an experiment and need to set a future schedule
- we will take votes tonight as well as at the next Tuesday meeting to
determine our future course
- given the choice of continuing as we are or switching to meeting on
the 1st and 3rd "some day of the week that is consistent" the vote
was 7-1 in favor of always meeting on the same day of the week
inode0 noted that his personal preference was for a consistent day
but that he was going to vote for the alternating schedule we have
now since he perceives that more people are participating since that
change was made
given the choice of meeting on Tuesdays or Thursdays in the event that
we switch to meeting on only one day the vote was 7-1 in favor of Tuesday
we'll add to these votes any additional votes cast at the next meeting
from other ambassadors (and will accept absentee votes from ambassadors
who participate in meetings prior to the next meeting if submitted)
the new schedule will be announced following the next FAmNA meeting
* Release Parties
- djf_jeff and others had a healthy discussion about release parties
* Open Floor
- No discussion items
I would again like to thank all the participants, especially the new
ambassadors joining us for the first time tonight.
15 years
Question !!
by Hicham Aoufir
Hi everybody , i was asking my self is there in programmed events for
Morocco ?
can i have an answer ?
Regards
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15 years
Re: Free Media Issues
by Paul W. Frields
On Fri, May 08, 2009 at 07:57:09AM +0100, Frank Murphy (Frankly3D) wrote:
> On 05/05/09 17:14, Paul W. Frields wrote:
>> On Tue, May 05, 2009 at 09:30:11PM +0530, Mani A wrote:
>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>
>>> See this long thread titled 'What Now James?' in the freemedia list
>>> (private list)
>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-freemedia-list
>>>
>>> A decision needs to taken.
>>
>> I would love to review this thread so we can talk about it in the
>> Board meeting. However, I am currently waiting for my subscription
>> request to be approved. If there is a maintainer listening who can do
>> that, I'd appreciate it.
>>
>
> When the Board does, get back to the Ambassador-List,
> with something re. this.
> Can it be more than the plain "Black & White"
> As there is a lot of passion involved.
Unfortunately, the legal guidance in this case is just that -- black
and white.
The Fedora Project is treated as any US entity or person by US law.
US law includes embargoes and other regulations that place severe
restrictions on the export of certain types of materials, including
some of the software found in Fedora, to specific nations. (Other
general restrictions exist which probably apply to Fedora as well.)
These nations are Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Libya, Sudan, and Syria.
Therefore, we're strictly forbidden from exporting Fedora to those
nations, or from aiding in their transference. For example, we cannot
accept requests to ship media to those nations under any part of the
Fedora Project.
This is a very unfortunate situation, and despite the Board's
sentiment, we're bound by the law. Just to be clear, this is not a
new policy; these laws have existed for some time and Fedora has
always observed them as far as I know.
The discussion that took place in the Board's public IRC meeting can
be found here, for those that are interested:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Board/Meetings/2009-05-05
If anyone knows about any existing export law reform initiatives in
the US that concern public free software projects, please let me or
any other Board member know.
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15 years
Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
by Ahmed Soliman
Welcome everybody
Ahmed Soliman
Software Engineer
B-Virtual Team.
Thebe Technology. Egypt - Belgium
16 Nehro St. Heliopolis. Cairo
Egypt.
http://www.b-virtual.org
http://www.thebetechnology.com
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> 1. Re: IEEE International Conference in Tunisia (Chiheb Chabchoub)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 02:04:41 +0200
> From: Chiheb Chabchoub <chiheb.chabchoub(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] IEEE International Conference in Tunisia
> To: fedora-ambassadors-list(a)redhat.com
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> Hi,
>
> Me too Nihed, i will be in this event for represent fedora with you.
>
> Regards
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 12:47, nihed mbarek <nihedmm(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > It will be a pleasure for me to represent Fedora on this Event.
> >
> > Best regards
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Chitlesh GOORAH <
> > chitlesh.goorah(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello there,
> >>
> >> The 16th IEEE International Conference on Electronics, Circuits, and
> >> Systems, ICECS 2009 [1], will be held in Tunisia on the 13th to 16th
> >> December 2009.
> >>
> >> The wiki page [2] says we have 7 ambassadors in Tunisia. Can anyone of
> >> you represent FEL at that conference ?
> >>
> >> Tasks include:
> >> - writing and sending a paper (will be done by me)
> >> - prepare local ambassadors with the talking points (will be done by me)
> >> - attend the conference and distribute your Fedora business cards (eat
> >> good food too :) )
> >> - if our paper is selected by the chair, the ambassador will give a
> >> brief introduction about Fedora&FEL
> >>
> >> You may find other publications, screenshots and presentations on [3].
> >>
> >> I believe that FEL should be sending papers to technical conferences
> >> around the world. These papers will describe our opensource EDA
> >> solutions and Fedora's key features eventually.
> >>
> >> If you are aware of such conferences in your locality, please let me
> know
> >> :)
> >>
> >> [1]: http://www.icecs2009.org/
> >> [2]: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/CountryList#Africa
> >> [3]: http://chitlesh.fedorapeople.org/FEL
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >> Chitlesh
> >> http://clunixchit.blogspot.com
> >>
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> Date: Thu, 7 May 2009 20:38:11 -0400
> From: Brian Powell <bpowell01(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] FAmNA Meeting Reminder
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> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 3:19 PM, inode0 <inode0(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just a quick reminder that FAmNA will be meeting tonight in the usual
> > place at the usual time.
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2009-05-07
> >
> > There are some important topics to discuss this month including budget
> > for events in Q2, scheduling FAmNA meetings beginning in June, SELF,
> > new merchandise updates, and more.
> >
> > I'm going to propose that at tonight's meeting and again at the
> > meeting on the 3rd Tuesday in May attendees can vote for the new
> > meeting schedule. Each person only gets one vote even if they attend
> > both meetings. I'll suggest the following meeting options but feel
> > free to propose others if you like.
> >
> > (1) 1st Thursday/3rd Tuesday each month as we have met this quarter on
> > an experimental basis
> > (2) 1st and 3rd Tuesday or Thursday each month
> >
> > We will have everyone state a preference for Tuesday or Thursday and
> > if (2) wins we'll go with the more popular day.
> >
> > This is my suggestion but you can veto it at the meeting tonight so
> > don't be late!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > John
> >
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> Sorry I wont be able to attend tonights meeting. I am at a clients
> site with an emergency.
>
> I will read the logs after they are posted.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Brian Powell
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:21:55 +0200
> From: JoergSimon <jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
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> Dear Ambassadors,
>
> let愀 welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Acardenas from Colombia
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Solarwinds from Morocco
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ananthgs from India
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Winstar from Lebanon
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pankaj4u from India
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Aznemesis from the USA
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Lennoazevedo from Brazil
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Tuanta from Vietnam
>
> Regards Joerg
> p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List
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> Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 11:37:22 +0200
> From: Joerg Simon <jsimon(a)fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: Re: [Ambassadors] Fedora Ambassadors Welcome
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> Am Freitag 08 Mai 2009 11:21:55 schrieb JoergSimon:
> > Dear Ambassadors,
> >
> > let愀 welcome our new sponsored Ambassador Group Members:
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pankaj4u from India
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> a correction -> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pankaj4u4m
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> > Regards Joerg
> > p.s. Please do not send private "Welcome" Messages to Ambassador List
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> Joerg (kital) Simon
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