Actually only Fedora has its Ambassadoring project, yeah, the other ones use to roganize events etc... without having a specific project.
Hi! Are there similar projects like the Fedora Ambassadors in other distributions? (OpenSuse, Ubuntu...) How do they handle the communication? Maybe we should take a look how things are done there! Greetings, Claus On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 11:46 -0400, francescougolini@aol.it wrote: > First of all i never proposed to fire people (i hope someone has > understood this thing) and it wouldn't a proposal but a topic to start > a serious discussion over the future of the project. I don't know > where you have read the word "fire", "trown out" etc.... but as you > know i want to help people not to create problems and frustrations or > to force people doing something: I never thought to remove people > from the project. > > > And, please, stop this past (closed) discussion (see the Thomas > Chung's Message to M-L for more information). I am happy to do so! > > > > > > I think the IRC weekly meetings are one of the place you can > communicate with Ambassadors, but there are a lot of other tools like > M-L and Ambassadors' EMAIL (in many ambassadors' wikis). > > > As happened for the last Italian Linux Day many contributors, that > weren't ambassadors, ask me for CDs. DVDs and similar stuffs, and > personally i've tried to complete all the request. > > > I f you need help you may contact one of you country's ambassador > asking him to help you not only asking him materials but what you > want. At the end we are here to do those things. > > > > Hoping i've answered (completely) to your questions and staying > avaiable for any other ones > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > > -----Messaggio originario----- > Da: Claus Reheis <polytropolis@gmail.com> > A: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com > Inviati: Mar 30 Ott 2007 14:21 > Oggetto: Re: R: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings > > Dear Francesco Ugolini! > > In the year 2006 was a small Linux Day in Tirol/Austria! > Because I am am big fan of the Fedora distribution and the lack of > any Fedora presence on that event, I thought about doing some > advertisement for the Fedora Project! > There was no way to get some nice Fedora stuff, without joining the > Fedora Ambassador Project! > So I did that and I do not regret it. > > > But the meetings are at times, very hard for me to attend! > I work in a hotel and at (14:00 UTC) 16:00 I have to work all the time. > Sure I have a day off, but that day changes every season. > The meetings at (22:00 UTC) 0:00 are very late, especially when you have > to get up early... > > I am sure there are also other people in my situation! > We have our lives, our obligations, our work and our families! > So why do we not think about a way to communicate where people can > attend when and if they want? > A Ambassador forum where we communicate via threads independent from > time,location and situation! > > If there are IRC meetings every month, and the meetings are hold on > times I can attend, I will attend. > > And your proposal in the past to fire people from the Ambassador > project, is imho just unconscionable. > > There are people like me, not involved in IT, wo have to work for their > life, their family, attend their friends and little rest of the time > to their hobbies!Maybe one of this hobby is Linux/Fedora. > So if they advertise Fedora to everyone who is interested in Linux, > talk about it and even go to local events and represent the Fedora > Project, imho that is enought to be an ambassador! > > I am one of this kind and if you wish to fire someone, start with me. > > Claus Reheis > > On Tue, 2007-10-30 at 06:09 -0400, francescougolini@aol.it wrote: > > Nobody was trow out: we had a discussion and people said clearly they > > disagree completely with this proposal. > > > > So i think it couldn't really help the project trying to speculate > > using obsolete arguments: we have just to do what you want (freely) to > > do. > > > > Yes, yo may disagree with my idea, but i'm not an imperor (i'm an > > ambassador like you), i've just prosed some (costructive) discussions > > and, as you have seen, a lot of people join those ones and take their > > position (and they won). > > > > Another point. We don't want to make comparison between ambassadors, > > countries etc...: this isn't the right place and we know each person > > has different possibilities. > > > > So, I hope you will think about those words. > > > > We haven't fire anybody, we don't want to give a prize for the most > > active ambassadors' Country but we want people who are not angried, > > unsatisfied or just disappointed. > > > > Best regards > > > > Francesco Ugolini > > > > > > -----Messaggio originario----- > > Da: Robert 'Bob' Jensen <marketing-list@fedoralinks.org> > > A: fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com > > Inviati: Lun 29 Ott 2007 18:25 > > Oggetto: Re: [Ambassadors] The weekly ambassador meetings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fabian Affolter wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > It's a long time ago...exactly during the presentation during the FAD > > at > > > > > Berlin I showed a slide (Page 7) [1]. This slide contains an > > overview > > > > > of some weekly meetings. After a short discussion about why are > > there > > > > > always a lot of European ambassadors at both time (FYI 22:00 UTC is > > > > > midnight in western europe). Someone suggested to split the > > meetings. > > > > > An European meeting at a pleasant moment...but now we can't split due > > to > > > > > lack of attendance. > > > > > > > > Since LinuxTag there were 18 meetings. 14 were canceled! > > > > > > > > Do we still need weekly meetings? Is it an overkill? Is it just a > > > > > waste of time? Today for me it was just wasting time. Three people > > > > > showed up. > > > > > > > > Are the reasons... > > > > > > > > - I don't care what the other ambassadors do. > > > > > - We have nothing to discuss. I don't know what to tell. > > > > > - South America is far away, I'm not interested in stuff from there. > > > > > - I have other stuff to do and can't take 30 min off. > > > > > - I live in the wrong time zone. > > > > > > > > I guess that there is no more any need for exchanging information > > > > > between the ambassadors about events and how stuff can be done > > because > > > > > everybody have enough experience to handle it. > > > > > > > > On the Join page [2] of the Ambassadors Project... > > > > > > > > Step 1. Participate in weekly meetings > > > > > > > > Perhaps it would be a good idea to remove that step. No meeting, no > > > > > possibility for a participation...FAMSco, this could be a topic for > > your > > > > > next meeting. For your half-yearly meeting ;-) > > > > > > > > Just my thoughts... > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Fabian > > > > > > > > [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD/FADLinuxTag2007 > > > > > [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Join > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com > > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > Personally I quit giving a crap about the ambassadors project and > > meetings when there was talk about throwing people out, creating a good > > ole boys club. As it appears this happened anyhow, only people were > > not > > thrown out they were just alienated. There are no events in my area of > > the US and quite honestly I do not have the resources to create one or > > travel more than an hour by car to get to one. The heavy activity of > > European Ambassadors does not help many of us in the US and perhaps > > other parts of the world because of cultural differences. It seams > > that > > the EU Ambassadors have no trouble traveling and taking time off of > > work > > to do something for the project, I on the other hand have a family to > > feed and a business to take care of. > > > > > > Robert 'Bob' Jensen > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list mailing list > > > > Fedora-ambassadors-list@redhat.com > > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-ambassadors-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Email gratis per tutti su AOL! 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