On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 10:59 AM, Adam Miller maxamillion@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I'm pretty neutral on B or C. I don't really care and also don't think it should even remotely be a concern of ours. Not only do we not have testing for it but we don't even have the building blocks in place to work towards testing it. VirtualBox is bad and those who use it should feel bad.[0]
I'm curious what you think others should feel when they use VMware ESXi or Fusion, or Microsoft Hyper-V, in particular as it compares to the feeling they should have when using VirtualBox?
On Windows and OS X, there is no qemu+kvm+libvirt. So I see VirtualBox as the least bad option on those platforms. When I'm using Fedora I use vmm/virsh because, well yeah VirtualBox is like the booger I can't flick off on OS X, meanwhile on Fedora there's something better.
This is probably not a popular opinion and I'm fine with that, but we would have to install something that we very publicly speak out against in order to test this. I'm not yet ready to throw out Fedora's values for the sake of some OS X user's convenience but that's just me.
OK well considering the UX of Linux on Macs is highly variable between totally utterly frustrating shit, and semi-tolerable except for exhibits A, B, C, and D all of which suck. The incentive, therefore, is to just run proprietary OS X on proprietary hardware and VirtualBox instead of yet more proprietary crap in order to semi-sanely run something that's not crap or proprietary without having to buy additional hardware and all the costs that ensue.
*shrug*
It's sorta like playing cards and telling someone they should feel bad about the hand they've been dealt. Their choice was really limited to showing up at a particular game in a particular location, not the details of the hand they're dealt.