10:46 p.m.
#106: No longer provide 32 bit image
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner:
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone: Future
Component: Cloud Base Image | Keywords: meeting
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We have discussed this quite a bit in the past. I believe with proper
communication we can stop delivering 32 bit cloud images for F23.
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#106: No longer provide 32 bit image
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner:
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Comment (by oddshocks):
Ahh yes. I had started writing a ticket for this but never submitted it.
This is a big +1 from me. I can say that in the past year that we've been
generating AMIs, not a single person has ever asked me (nor anyone I know
of) for a 32 bit image. In fact, only like 4 tiny instance types on AWS
even support it.
I've talked about this with a number of people in #fedora-cloud who seem
to be on board with ceasing production of the 32 bit images. We could
probably bring this up in the meeting and on the list, so that we can hear
from anyone who disagrees with our assessment.
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8:19 a.m.
#106: No longer provide 32 bit image
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
Type: task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Future
Component: Cloud Base Image | Resolution:
Keywords: meeting |
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Changes (by dustymabe):
* owner: => oddshocks
* status: new => assigned
Comment:
Replying to [comment:1 oddshocks]:
I've talked about this with a number of people in #fedora-cloud who seem
to be
on board with ceasing production of the 32 bit images. We could
probably bring this up in the meeting and on the list, so that we can hear
from anyone who disagrees with our assessment.
Can you send an email to the list where we can +1 or -1? We can also
discuss in meeting next week, but having a vote will help make this start
to become real.
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7:50 a.m.
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
Type: task | Status: assigned
Priority: normal | Milestone: Future
Component: Cloud Base Image | Resolution:
Keywords: meeting |
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Comment (by jzb):
Unless someone can come forward with a compelling "we desperately need
32-bit for X" use case, then let's streamline and get rid of the 32-bit
images.
+1
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Comment (by hguemar):
+1
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Comment (by kushal):
+1 from me.
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1:04 p.m.
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Keywords: meeting |
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Comment (by roshi):
I think that without having download/user statistics we can't really
measure it well. The only way to tell if it's being used is to pull it,
and be ready to put it back if there's enough noise about it.
+1 to getting rid of it.
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Comment (by znmeb):
Replying to [comment:6 roshi]:
I think that without having download/user statistics we can't
really
measure it well. The only way to tell if it's being used is to pull it,
and be ready to put it back if there's enough noise about it.
+1 to getting rid of it.
+1 for getting rid of it.
+1000 for instituting some kind of data gathering program within Fedora to
get accurate data on what people download / instantiate / build upon from
all the many binary editions of Fedora that get published.
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8:24 a.m.
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Comment (by dustymabe):
+1 - Can we start to send out some communications around this so people
won't be "surprised"?
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Comment (by mattdm):
Maybe file this as a self-contained change?
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1:07 p.m.
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Comment (by dustymabe):
Discussed in the cloud meeting today. There are some arguments that there
are some apps that are 32bit and don't support multilib (running on 64
bit). It was proposed that we have 32bit as a secondary arch.
I am fine with having it as a secondary arch but would prefer for it to be
a short lived thing. Here is what I would like for it to mean:
- 1 or 2 cycles (f23/f24)
- only thing provided is 32 bit cloud image downloads (qcow2/raw)
- no uploads to public clouds.
Thoughts?
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Comment (by roshi):
+1 to dusty's idea in #10.
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1:48 p.m.
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Comment (by dustymabe):
Looks like we may have miscommunicated a bit. Looks like releng is no
longer going to be building cloud images (see link).
https://pagure.io/releng/37943686086180fb95b4ff4b6e31192d63b5b391
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Keywords: meeting |
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Comment (by ausil):
We can add back the 32 bit images, but we will have to get oz fixed to
enable them to work.
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Keywords: meeting |
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Comment (by jzb):
Yes, let's please add those back and get a comms plan going to sunset the
image in the F24 timeframe. Any objections?
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Priority: normal | Milestone: Future
Component: Cloud Base Image | Resolution:
Keywords: meeting |
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Comment (by roshi):
None from me.
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Priority: normal | Milestone: Future
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Keywords: meeting |
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Comment (by dustymabe):
jzb can you help us come up with a communication/marketing plan for this
for F24 ?
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
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Keywords: meeting |
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Comment (by jzb):
@dustymabe indeed. Yes.
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#106: No longer provide 32 bit image
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Reporter: dustymabe | Owner: oddshocks
Type: task | Status: closed
Priority: normal | Milestone: Future
Component: Cloud Base Image | Resolution: fixed
Keywords: meeting |
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Changes (by roshi):
* status: assigned => closed
* resolution: => fixed
Comment:
This seems to be pretty much wrapped up. Closing. Thanks all!
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