GitHub or Pagure: community decision

[Sanja Bonic]

Hi everyone,

We'd like you to participate in an important community decision for Fedora
CoreOS. Please read the introduction in the following form and vote for
where you would like to see feature discussions, bug reports, and similar
topics happening.

https://goo.gl/forms/YqSQVr8odSQxkzzx1

As a soft measure to prevent multiple votes, you'll have to sign in with a
Google account. In case you do not have or want to use that, please contact
us in #fedora-coreos on IRC and we'll provide you with an email you can use
to cast your vote.

Please share the form link so we can have as many votes as possible by July
4th 23:59 EST.

Thank you for your contributions - see you shortly in the first Fedora
CoreOS community meeting.

Cheers,
Sanja

[Vitor Lobo Ramos]

Hello Sanja!
What was the result of this poll? Unfortunately I could not attend.

[Sanja Bonic]

Hi,

As a quick result, we've had 112 votes for GitHub out of 184 votes
altogether (182 were done via form and 2 externally from people who do not
use Google accounts).

We'll be working on publishing the results in a proper form with commentary
and addressing several points that were raised by community members in the
comments. The next two weeks I'm mostly offline, so I'm expecting to not
send out anything until then as we also want to take time to write a proper
analysis of the votes and comments.

Have a nice weekend,
Sanja

On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Vitor Lobo Ramos 
wrote:
> Hello Sanja!
> What was the result of this poll? Unfortunately I could not attend.
> _______________________________________________
> CoreOS mailing list -- [e-mail]
> To unsubscribe send an email to [e-mail]
> Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html
> List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
> List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/coreos@
> lists.fedoraproject.org/message/LFBHGVVTKZH6C6GFWT6HOIBL7EBSM2AC/

[Vitor Lobo Ramos]

Thank's Sanja!
Have a nice weekend too,
Vitor

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 12:36:51PM +0100, Sanja Bonic wrote:
> As a quick result, we've had 112 votes for GitHub out of 184 votes
> altogether (182 were done via form and 2 externally from people who do not
> use Google accounts).

Well, that seems pretty clear. Anyone have any ideas on how we can
translate GitHub activity into fedmsgs linked to FAS accounts, so that
I can include this activity in
https://mattdm.org/fedora/fedora-contributor-trends/ (and other stats)?

[Jonathan Lebon]

On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 7:08 AM, Matthew Miller  wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 12:36:51PM +0100, Sanja Bonic wrote:
> > As a quick result, we've had 112 votes for GitHub out of 184 votes
> > altogether (182 were done via form and 2 externally from people who do not
> > use Google accounts).
>
> Well, that seems pretty clear. Anyone have any ideas on how we can
> translate GitHub activity into fedmsgs linked to FAS accounts, so that
> I can include this activity in
> https://mattdm.org/fedora/fedora-contributor-trends/ (and other stats)?

Maybe https://apps.fedoraproject.org/github2fedmsg could help?
We use it for pull request notifications, though it proxies a lot of
other events too. Full list at:

https://fedora-fedmsg.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics.html#github

It looks likes messages also have an `fas_usernames` key containing
a dict of GitHub username --> FAS usernames.

[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 09:23:23AM -0400, Jonathan Lebon wrote:
> Maybe https://apps.fedoraproject.org/github2fedmsg could help?
> We use it for pull request notifications, though it proxies a lot of
> other events too. Full list at:
>
> https://fedora-fedmsg.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics.html#github
>
> It looks likes messages also have an `fas_usernames` key containing
> a dict of GitHub username --> FAS usernames.

Yes, that sounds perfect! I have three concerns with GitHub:

1. Non-open nature of issues and other non-git stuff leaves us at the
   whims of the company, and, y'know, isn't free

2. Confusion and fragmentation for Fedora users and contributors —
   where to file issues is already kind of a mess.

3. This — measuring community contributions.

On the other hand, I absolutely recognize the network-effect value of
1. the GitHub user base and 2. recognition by non-current Fedora users.
So, I understand the decision to go that way. Anything we can do to
reduce the concerns as we do so would be good, though.