Fedora unusable on Asus eee 701

[Valent Turkovic]

Hi,
this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because onboard
4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after updates drive
keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((

Please take this into consideration.

If you need some more feedback please let us know or if there is some
other way we users can help this bug gets fixed.

Cheers,
Valent.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465405

[Conrad Meyer]

On Monday 29 December 2008 01:36:44 pm Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because onboard
> 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after updates drive
> keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((
>
> Please take this into consideration.
>
> If you need some more feedback please let us know or if there is some
> other way we users can help this bug gets fixed.
>
> Cheers,
> Valent.
>
> [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465405

*Please* stop posting the particular bugs that affect you to the mailing list 
as if they are higher priority than any other bugs.

Regards,

[Valent Turkovic]

On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> On Monday 29 December 2008 01:36:44 pm Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > Hi,
> > this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because onboard
> > 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after updates drive
> > keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((
> >
> > Please take this into consideration.
> >
> > If you need some more feedback please let us know or if there is some
> > other way we users can help this bug gets fixed.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Valent.
> >
> > [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=465405
>
> *Please* stop posting the particular bugs that affect you to the mailing list
> as if they are higher priority than any other bugs.
> Regards,
>
> Conrad Meyer

I'm not saying that this bug has some too high importance but to say
that all bugs are created equal is not true.
Also I heard a lot of positive feedback when some specific bugs got
mentioned on this list, if you believe it is now important you can
choose to ignore that thread.

Regards,
Valent
.

[Conrad Meyer]

On Tuesday 30 December 2008 09:13:56 am Valent Turkovic wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> > *Please* stop posting the particular bugs that affect you to the mailing
> > list as if they are higher priority than any other bugs.
> > Regards,
> >
> > Conrad Meyer
>
> I'm not saying that this bug has some too high importance but to say
> that all bugs are created equal is not true.

That's why there is a priority setting for each bug on bugzilla.
> Also I heard a lot of positive feedback when some specific bugs got
> mentioned on this list, if you believe it is now important you can
> choose to ignore that thread.

(I believe you meant 'not' instead of 'now'.) That strategy doesn't really 
work. Ignoring spam that is sent to onesself regularly doesn't stop it from 
being sent. Please don't contribute to the internet's spam problem. I don't 
believe there is any added value in your regular mailings of the list with 
your own bugs.

Regards,

[Jerry Amundson]

On 12/30/08, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 December 2008 09:13:56 am Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> > > *Please* stop posting the particular bugs that affect you to the mailing
> > > list as if they are higher priority than any other bugs.
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Conrad Meyer
> >
> > I'm not saying that this bug has some too high importance but to say
> > that all bugs are created equal is not true.
>
> That's why there is a priority setting for each bug on bugzilla.

And said priority setting is known to be universally ignored.
> > Also I heard a lot of positive feedback when some specific bugs got
> > mentioned on this list, if you believe it is now important you can
> > choose to ignore that thread.
>
> (I believe you meant 'not' instead of 'now'.) That strategy doesn't really
> work. Ignoring spam that is sent to onesself regularly doesn't stop it from
> being sent. Please don't contribute to the internet's spam problem. I don't
> believe there is any added value in your regular mailings of the list with
> your own bugs.

Don't be so hasty to judge. They should not become frequent list
postings, true, but sometimes they can be a handy "heads up" that can
apply to others.

jerry

[Don Harper]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 07:49:07PM -0600, Jerry Amundson wrote to To Development discussions related to Fedora:
> On 12/30/08, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 December 2008 09:13:56 am Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> > > > *Please* stop posting the particular bugs that affect you to the mailing
> > > > list as if they are higher priority than any other bugs.
> > >
> > > Also I heard a lot of positive feedback when some specific bugs got
> > > mentioned on this list, if you believe it is now important you can
> > > choose to ignore that thread.
> >
> > (I believe you meant 'not' instead of 'now'.) That strategy doesn't really
> > work. Ignoring spam that is sent to onesself regularly doesn't stop it from
> > being sent. Please don't contribute to the internet's spam problem. I don't
> > believe there is any added value in your regular mailings of the list with
> > your own bugs.
>
> Don't be so hasty to judge. They should not become frequent list
> postings, true, but sometimes they can be a handy "heads up" that can
> apply to others.

For example, I have started to comment on the bug since I saw it
mentioned here (my 701 works).

Don

[Valent Turkovic]

2008/12/31 Don Harper :
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 07:49:07PM -0600, Jerry Amundson wrote to To Development discussions related to Fedora:
> > On 12/30/08, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 30 December 2008 09:13:56 am Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> > > > > *Please* stop posting the particular bugs that affect you to the mailing
> > > > > list as if they are higher priority than any other bugs.
> > > >
> > > > Also I heard a lot of positive feedback when some specific bugs got
> > > > mentioned on this list, if you believe it is now important you can
> > > > choose to ignore that thread.
> > >
> > > (I believe you meant 'not' instead of 'now'.) That strategy doesn't really
> > > work. Ignoring spam that is sent to onesself regularly doesn't stop it from
> > > being sent. Please don't contribute to the internet's spam problem. I don't
> > > believe there is any added value in your regular mailings of the list with
> > > your own bugs.
> >
> > Don't be so hasty to judge. They should not become frequent list
> > postings, true, but sometimes they can be a handy "heads up" that can
> > apply to others.
>
> For example, I have started to comment on the bug since I saw it
> mentioned here (my 701 works).
>
> Don

It's is interesing how yours and some other work and some don't work
with SD card reader.

I bought mine over six months ago and has SD card for similar time so
I thought that it could be a hardware error on my part but after I
talked with a friend of mine who bought his eee and 8BG sd card few
weeks ago and has issues with installing Fedora 10 on it (same issues
as described before) I concluded that it probably isn't a hardware bug
on my eee.

That friend has since installed Ubuntu (netbook remix edition) on SD
card and it is working for him. Ununtu-Fedora 1:0 :(

I'm not sure which kernel is ubuntu running and if there are some
custom kernel partches... but if you are interested I can look into
that.

Cheers,
Valent.

[Don Harper]

On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 08:35:12PM +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote to To Development discussions related to Fedora:
> It's is interesing how yours and some other work and some don't work
> with SD card reader.

I understand that there was a change to the 701 somewhere along the
line.  My serial number starts with 7C.  My model is eeePc4G-W011.

There appears to be some slight differences between the sub-releases.

http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=11180
http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=13560

Don
> I bought mine over six months ago and has SD card for similar time so
> I thought that it could be a hardware error on my part but after I
> talked with a friend of mine who bought his eee and 8BG sd card few
> weeks ago and has issues with installing Fedora 10 on it (same issues
> as described before) I concluded that it probably isn't a hardware bug
> on my eee.
> That friend has since installed Ubuntu (netbook remix edition) on SD
> card and it is working for him. Ununtu-Fedora 1:0 :(
> I'm not sure which kernel is ubuntu running and if there are some
> custom kernel partches... but if you are interested I can look into
> that.
> Cheers,
> Valent.

[Peter Robinson]

> > > > > > *Please* stop posting the particular bugs that affect you to the mailing
> > > > > > list as if they are higher priority than any other bugs.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also I heard a lot of positive feedback when some specific bugs got
> > > > > mentioned on this list, if you believe it is now important you can
> > > > > choose to ignore that thread.
> > > >
> > > > (I believe you meant 'not' instead of 'now'.) That strategy doesn't really
> > > > work. Ignoring spam that is sent to onesself regularly doesn't stop it from
> > > > being sent. Please don't contribute to the internet's spam problem. I don't
> > > > believe there is any added value in your regular mailings of the list with
> > > > your own bugs.
> > >
> > > Don't be so hasty to judge. They should not become frequent list
> > > postings, true, but sometimes they can be a handy "heads up" that can
> > > apply to others.
> >
> > For example, I have started to comment on the bug since I saw it
> > mentioned here (my 701 works).
> >
> > Don
>
> It's is interesing how yours and some other work and some don't work
> with SD card reader.
>
> I bought mine over six months ago and has SD card for similar time so
> I thought that it could be a hardware error on my part but after I
> talked with a friend of mine who bought his eee and 8BG sd card few
> weeks ago and has issues with installing Fedora 10 on it (same issues
> as described before) I concluded that it probably isn't a hardware bug
> on my eee.
>
> That friend has since installed Ubuntu (netbook remix edition) on SD
> card and it is working for him. Ununtu-Fedora 1:0 :(
>
> I'm not sure which kernel is ubuntu running and if there are some
> custom kernel partches... but if you are interested I can look into
> that.

There's a couple of linux-kernel mailing list threads that I posted to
the bug report (see around comments 12-15) that details the issue.
There was a specific patch to fix the issue that was made more generic
but I haven't see it go into a mainline kernel yet but the author of
the patch is there, I was going to ping an email to him but haven't
had time to do so.

Peter

[Valent Turkovic]

On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 December 2008 09:13:56 am Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:40 PM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> > > *Please* stop posting the particular bugs that affect you to the mailing
> > > list as if they are higher priority than any other bugs.
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Conrad Meyer
> >
> > I'm not saying that this bug has some too high importance but to say
> > that all bugs are created equal is not true.
>
> That's why there is a priority setting for each bug on bugzilla.

Are you being intentionally ignorant or are you new to this list? I
have heard numerous times that priority setting is being ignored and
it doesn't matter what you set it to.
> > Also I heard a lot of positive feedback when some specific bugs got
> > mentioned on this list, if you believe it is now important you can
> > choose to ignore that thread.
>
> (I believe you meant 'not' instead of 'now'.) That strategy doesn't really
> work. Ignoring spam that is sent to onesself regularly doesn't stop it from
> being sent. Please don't contribute to the internet's spam problem. I don't
> believe there is any added value in your regular mailings of the list with
> your own bugs.
> Regards,
>
> Conrad Meyer

I believe that this issue should be discussed also here, and there are
people who aren't ware of it or maybe I'm wrong and this isn't a bug
but some error on my part so others can show me that.

Anyway I would like to help fix this issue with my feedback and
testing and that is one more reason why I wrote to this list.

If you have some helpful suggestions or comments please join the
discussion or feel free to ignore it.

Cheers and happy New Year!

[Kevin Kofler]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Are you being intentionally ignorant or are you new to this list? I
> have heard numerous times that priority setting is being ignored and
> it doesn't matter what you set it to.

The priority setting is often (not always) ignored because it is getting set
by users like you.

The developers fix the bugs according to THEIR priorities (often based on
how many users are affected and how badly), it is not your business to
decide that your bug is more important than somebody else's. Posting "my
bug is important" to a mailing list is just as impolite and arrogant as
bumping its priority, and in addition it will also annoy people who don't
care about your bug at all (if they did, they'd be CCed on it).

Kevin Kofler

[Eric Springer]

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Valent Turkovic
 wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
>
> Are you being intentionally ignorant or are you new to this list?

Oh screw you. You come to the *development* list and say crap like
this to contributing and active member?

Beside repeatably avoiding taking the proper channels to get issues
fixed, you can't even be polite.

Let me take a quick look at your contributions:

08-12-30 -- Posting about a bug that affects you (on devel)
08-12-29 -- Asking for tips on using your eee (on devel)
08-11-30 -- Asking a wiki question (on devel)
08-11-17 -- Asking about WEP keys and network manager (on devel)
08-07-14 -- Asking people to look at a sound issue for you (on devel)
08-06-14 -- Posting about 4 feature requests bugs you want (on devel)
08-06-12 -- Posting about a selinux bug that affects you (on devel)
08-03-30 -- Posting about a networkmanager bug that affects you (on devel)
08-06-09 -- Asking if Red Hat is dropping support for fedora (on devel)
08-05-27 -- Asking about fedoratv (on devel)
08-05-27 -- Reporting flash doesn't work (on devel)
08-05-27 -- Asking about webcam support (on devel)
08-05-27 -- Asking how to disable a feature in swfdec (on devel)

The development mailing list isn't for:
* The bugs that affect you
* Asking developers for help
* Being a jerk

If you don't understand that, you shouldn't be here. Thanks.
> have heard numerous times that priority setting is being ignored and
> it doesn't matter what you set it to.

Considering every issue you have ends up on the development mailing
list, I doubt *you* understand priority.
> Also I heard a lot of positive feedback when some specific bugs got
> mentioned on this list, if you believe it is now important you can
> choose to ignore that thread.

Look carefully. They generally are in the format "Watch out for this
bug, we're fixing it" or "Anyone knows how to help me fix.." or
something similarly constructive. However if Flash 10 isn't working
for you, use bugzilla or a help forum.

[Jef Spaleta]

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Eric Springer  wrote:
> Oh screw you. You come to the *development* list and say crap like
> this to contributing and active member?

Please, let's not ratchet up the emotion over Valent's abuse of this
list further.  I realize he's being condescending. I've a whole gmail
label category for all the unsent draft responses to all sorts of
people I've written which start with "screw you" penned in anger to
exactly what you are finding irritating. I completely understand, it
feels really good to write that sort of thing..i think the word is
cathartic . But actually sending emotive posts doesn't necessarily
help solve the problem in the long run.

-jef"Has learned to always eat something before writing an email. Low
blood sugar induced rage does not mix with communication."spaleta

[Valent Turkovic]

On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 2:24 AM, Eric Springer  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Valent Turkovic
>  wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 2:14 AM, Conrad Meyer  wrote:
> >
> > Are you being intentionally ignorant or are you new to this list?
>
> Oh screw you. You come to the *development* list and say crap like
> this to contributing and active member?

I'm sorry if I offended you, I don't know you personaly and I just
judge from what you wrote. Because I know that that is ignored most of
the time I concluded that you were being intentionally a prick or are
new to this list and don't know that this is ignored.

My primary language isn't english so words that I use don't have the
finesse of english speaking people and come out much stronger than
intended, sorry again for that.
> Beside repeatably avoiding taking the proper channels to get issues
> fixed, you can't even be polite.
>
> Let me take a quick look at your contributions:
>
> 08-12-30 -- Posting about a bug that affects you (on devel)
> 08-12-29 -- Asking for tips on using your eee (on devel)
> 08-11-30 -- Asking a wiki question (on devel)
> 08-11-17 -- Asking about WEP keys and network manager (on devel)
> 08-07-14 -- Asking people to look at a sound issue for you (on devel)
> 08-06-14 -- Posting about 4 feature requests bugs you want (on devel)
> 08-06-12 -- Posting about a selinux bug that affects you (on devel)
> 08-03-30 -- Posting about a networkmanager bug that affects you (on devel)
> 08-06-09 -- Asking if Red Hat is dropping support for fedora (on devel)
> 08-05-27 -- Asking about fedoratv (on devel)
> 08-05-27 -- Reporting flash doesn't work (on devel)
> 08-05-27 -- Asking about webcam support (on devel)
> 08-05-27 -- Asking how to disable a feature in swfdec (on devel)

I don't "abuse" this mailing list that much if you read my mails you
would see that they are intended for devels and not only as issues
that I have! Why are spreading this FUD? Are you so mad? Sorry once
more if I have offended you.

You have too much time on your hand if you have time to invest in my
mail history. I don't have to see yours but I guess it is interesting
:)
> The development mailing list isn't for:
> The bugs that affect you

I don't. As with this email I just higlighted an issue that affects
ALL eee users, and I know how much fedora devels have done to make
fedora work on that device so it is a shame that this issue ruins it
all.
> Asking developers for help
> Being a jerk

then please go of this list ;) I couldn't resist :) If I'm being a
jerk it is not intentional... sorry.

Cheers,
Valent.

[Kevin Kofler]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> I don't "abuse" this mailing list that much if you read my mails you
> would see that they are intended for devels and not only as issues
> that I have! Why are spreading this FUD? Are you so mad? Sorry once
> more if I have offended you.

I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of this list. It is for
discussion ABOUT development of Fedora, NOT for asking user questions TO
the Fedora developers. Your posts are the latter, and thus they are off
topic.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic
> If you are not a Fedora developer, you probably have no business posting
> here. This is not for end-user questions.

Kevin Kofler

[Thomas Bendler]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:33 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> [...]
> I think you're misunderstanding the purpose of this list. It is for
> discussion ABOUT development of Fedora, NOT for asking user questions TO
> the Fedora developers. Your posts are the latter, and thus they are off
> topic.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic
> > If you are not a Fedora developer, you probably have no business posting
> > here. This is not for end-user questions.

What is so complicated to tell him, questions like this should be placed on
[e-mail]??? There are tons of mails telling him this is the
wrong list, why not simply tell him: "Ask this question on list XYZ"? This
is less emotional and reduce the amount of useless mails on this list.

Regards, Thomas

[Michael Mondragon]

Hey Guys,

As I read Valent's mail, I do understand his ways one way or another.
At the end of the day, let's help together and to have more leaner
team.

To all dev, kudos!  Actually I'm newbie here in Fedora devel, but
reading those emails, I understand the feelings/emotions and sometimes
language is the barrier that even myself is having a hard time to make
people understand me. :)  Anyway, Valant for me, I think we need to
think twice as hard as we could.  Happy New Year to all!

Just a cent worth from me!

Thanks,

[Nicu Buculei]

Valent Turkovic wrote:
> Hi,
> this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because onboard
> 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after updates drive
> keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((
>
> Please take this into consideration.
>
> If you need some more feedback please let us know or if there is some
> other way we users can help this bug gets fixed.

Maybe you are trying to install the wrong spin on the machine? I am 
quite positive the Desktop or Xfce spins will install in much less than 
that.

[José Abílio Matos]

On Tuesday 30 December 2008 07:54:39 Nicu Buculei wrote:
> Maybe you are trying to install the wrong spin on the machine? I am
> quite positive the Desktop or Xfce spins will install in much less than
> that.

My wife has installed the KDE spin on a eee 901 with no problems.

It has a primary SSD of 4 GB and the secondary has 16 GB, the system fits well 
in the primary.

[Valent Turkovic]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:32 PM, José Matos  wrote:
> On Tuesday 30 December 2008 07:54:39 Nicu Buculei wrote:
> > Maybe you are trying to install the wrong spin on the machine? I am
> > quite positive the Desktop or Xfce spins will install in much less than
> > that.
>
> My wife has installed the KDE spin on a eee 901 with no problems.
>
> It has a primary SSD of 4 GB and the secondary has 16 GB, the system fits well
> in the primary.
> --
> José Abílio

I believe this bug is isolated for Asus 701, please feel free to
correct me if I'm wrong.

[Peter Robinson]

> > Maybe you are trying to install the wrong spin on the machine? I am
> > quite positive the Desktop or Xfce spins will install in much less than
> > that.
>
> My wife has installed the KDE spin on a eee 901 with no problems.
>
> It has a primary SSD of 4 GB and the secondary has 16 GB, the system fits well
> in the primary.

The 901 has completely different hardware and the 901 works fine. The
issue is with the 701, 900 and possibly others. I think its the non
Atom based eeePCs that are affected.

Peter

[Valent Turkovic]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 8:54 AM, Nicu Buculei  wrote:
> Valent Turkovic wrote:
> > Hi,
> > this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because onboard
> > 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after updates drive
> > keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((
> >
> > Please take this into consideration.
> >
> > If you need some more feedback please let us know or if there is some
> > other way we users can help this bug gets fixed.
>
> Maybe you are trying to install the wrong spin on the machine? I am quite
> positive the Desktop or Xfce spins will install in much less than that.

Desktop spin after install takes around 2.6GB of space, then there is
swap and Desktop spin is far from usable for my use cases so I need
additiona apps... the space gets eaten really fast.

I had no issue with space when I had an option of using 8GB SD card
with Fedora 9, now because of this bug I have no option but to manage
on only 4GB :(((

Valent.

[sankarshan]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Valent Turkovic
 wrote:
> this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because onboard
> 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after updates drive
> keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((

Are you using a spin or, a standard install set ?

[Valent Turkovic]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:19 PM, Sankarshan Mukhopadhyay
 wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 3:06 AM, Valent Turkovic
>  wrote:
> > this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because onboard
> > 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after updates drive
> > keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((
>
> Are you using a spin or, a standard install set ?
>
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I'm using standard Fedora desktop spin (CD Gnome spin). I removed some
locals after install and installed some additiona apps that are
essential but are missing from desktop spin - like OpenOffice.

I had around 20 MB before removing some languages that I'm not using.
Now I have around 200MB free space but after any update tha space is
shringink. Because of this bug I can't use external SD 8GB card that I
used when I had Fedora 9 installed on Asus 701.

Cheers,
Valent.

[Stefan Grosse]

On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:18:04 +0100 "Valent Turkovic"

VT> >> this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because
VT> >> onboard 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after
VT> >> updates drive keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((

VT> I'm using standard Fedora desktop spin (CD Gnome spin). I removed
VT> some locals after install and installed some additiona apps that are
VT> essential but are missing from desktop spin - like OpenOffice.

Dear Ikea, I cannot fit the Billy shelves that I bought into my VW
beetle. Please consider this as a major failure in
the construction of billy shelves.

Happy New Year! ;-)

Stefan

PS I suppose you haven't been successfull installing XP including OO?

[Valent Turkovic]

On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Stefan Grosse  wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:18:04 +0100 "Valent Turkovic"
>
> VT> >> this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because
> VT> >> onboard 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after
> VT> >> updates drive keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((
>
> VT> I'm using standard Fedora desktop spin (CD Gnome spin). I removed
> VT> some locals after install and installed some additiona apps that are
> VT> essential but are missing from desktop spin - like OpenOffice.
>
> Dear Ikea, I cannot fit the Billy shelves that I bought into my VW
> beetle. Please consider this as a major failure in
> the construction of billy shelves.
>
> Happy New Year! ;-)
>
> Stefan
>
> PS I suppose you haven't been successfull installing XP including OO?

Nope, do you have some tips regarding that? ;)

Cheers and Happy New Year!

[Christopher Brown]

2008/12/30 Stefan Grosse :
> On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:18:04 +0100 "Valent Turkovic"
>
> VT> >> this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because
> VT> >> onboard 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after
> VT> >> updates drive keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((
>
> VT> I'm using standard Fedora desktop spin (CD Gnome spin). I removed
> VT> some locals after install and installed some additiona apps that are
> VT> essential but are missing from desktop spin - like OpenOffice.
>
> Dear Ikea, I cannot fit the Billy shelves that I bought into my VW
> beetle. Please consider this as a major failure in
> the construction of billy shelves.
>
> Happy New Year! ;-)
>
> Stefan
>
> PS I suppose you haven't been successfull installing XP including OO?

Please take that attitude somewhere else. This list is for the
development of Fedora. The latest release does not install for Valent
on a hardware platform that is hugely popular. This should be a cause
for concern, not ridicule.

[Valent Turkovic]

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Christopher Brown
 wrote:
> 2008/12/30 Stefan Grosse :
> > On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 18:18:04 +0100 "Valent Turkovic"
> >
> > VT> >> this bug [1] makes Fedora 10 unusable on Asus eee 701 because
> > VT> >> onboard 4GB drive is too small for default set of apps and after
> > VT> >> updates drive keeps shrinking to 0MB free :(((
> >
> > VT> I'm using standard Fedora desktop spin (CD Gnome spin). I removed
> > VT> some locals after install and installed some additiona apps that are
> > VT> essential but are missing from desktop spin - like OpenOffice.
> >
> > Dear Ikea, I cannot fit the Billy shelves that I bought into my VW
> > beetle. Please consider this as a major failure in
> > the construction of billy shelves.
> >
> > Happy New Year! ;-)
> >
> > Stefan
> >
> > PS I suppose you haven't been successfull installing XP including OO?
>
> Please take that attitude somewhere else. This list is for the
> development of Fedora. The latest release does not install for Valent
> on a hardware platform that is hugely popular. This should be a cause
> for concern, not ridicule.
>
> --
> Christopher Brown

I'm sorry that I didn't test rawhide on eee and raised this issue before...

ps. I do rest rawhide on my 3 other laptops and report bugs regularly.

Cheers,
Valent.