Re: F7t2 and QA Meeting
by Jay Cliburn
Will Woods wrote:
> As Jesse announced on fedora-devel-list, the code freeze for Fedora 7,
> Test 2 is today (this evening, US EST).
I'm not sure when you intend to freeze the kernel for F7T2 (perhaps
today?), but the current kernel -git, along with the existing rawhide
2930 and 2932 kernels (and maybe the previous one, too), won't boot from
a VIA SATA 6420, 6421, or 8237A controller. I'd guess this affects a
pretty good number F7 testers who use SATA on a VIA chipset motherboard.
A patch to fix the problem was accepted into the libata tree this
morning, so it should show up in the mainline kernel -git soon.
Jay
17 years, 3 months
Slightly OT: bad rap for Fedora, and realistic effects
by Arthur Pemberton
Well I'm not sure how many of you all have seen this:
http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/22/207231
And this may or may not be the correct -list for this, but here goes.
I think its fair to say that a lot of the louder voices on the
internet do not like Fedora for fair and unfair reasons. My question
is what does this do to Fedora, and RedHat by association. I can't
imagine that anything good is coming of this. All the developers here
are bound by the 24hr daily limit, ie. there is a finite amount of
work that any developer can accomplish, esp. those not being paid to
work on Fedora. Making the assumption that all these negative word of
mouth is bleeding Fedora of contributors, then what's the plan?
A few loyalist bound by the laws of Physics can only accomplish so
much, and I'm even more worried that the bad karma trickles down to
RedHat, who I believe is the Cinderella of the Linux community - one
day I hope to be in the position to purchase RHEL licenses, but I'm
becoming worried that it may not be around by time I get there.
Peace
--
Fedora Core 6 and proud
17 years, 3 months
External drives not detected at boot time?
by Michel Salim
In Rawhide, USB external drives are not detected if they are plugged
in at boot time, requiring power-cycling before the required device
nodes are created in /dev and gnome-volume-manager works.
Has there been any changes in the boot process that might have caused this?
--
Michel Salim
http://hircus.wordpress.com/
17 years, 3 months
FC6 to Rawhide via repo switch
by Paul Michael Reilly
I recently got my system wedged without having good notes about what
happened. So I figured that the simplest path to getting back to a
running Rawhide was to install minimally FC6 and change the repos to
select development (should extras development be enabled?) and then do
an update. I did that and midway through the 1000+ package update the
system rebooted leaving me scratching my head wondering if I should
distrust this approach or just reboot and try again with another update
and hope for the best. I did the latter and have been beset by weird
behavior ever since. Like checkbox buttons not echoing properly on GUIs
and non elf format conflicts in some bin programs and libraries.
In any case, if it will help to perform that FC6->Rawhide update in a
more controlled fashion, I will do so, but only if somebody in
particular cares or will define what constraints and expectations are
relevant. Doing this at random does seem fraught with the risk of doing
so right about the time some normal Rawhide breakage has been unleashed.
Left to my own devices I'll start with a less risky approach to getting
to a running Rawhide that I feel is sufficiently "correct" to file bug
reports against. To that end I'm open to suggestion, especially references.
Thanks,
-pmr
17 years, 3 months
Re: Slightly OT: bad rap for Fedora, and realistic effects
by Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:17:36 -0500, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Friday 23 February 2007 07:35, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > * heavy use of Red Hat internal mailing-lists for Fedora related matters,
>
> This is complete BS.
Disagree as much as you like, but please avoid the strong language.
> Maybe one or three messages a month pop up on internal
> lists, and those are immediately redirected to external lists.
Repeatedly, there have been references to relevant topics on internal
lists, involving Fedora or Core. I've pointed out a few examples long
ago. With regard to the Fedora Merge, most recent is this one:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-devel-list/2007-February/msg00577....
Now, I guess somebody will deny that it's relevant discussion. Still, you
cannot deny that internal lists plus interal IRC plus additional forms of
internal communication don't do a community project any good when public
communication channels are criticised for their poor s/n ratio.
> > * more closed circles, in which decisions are made -- including mysteries
> > like brew, koji, and code transfer for the new Updates System,
>
> These decisions were made at the Fedora summit, with the Fedora board and
> other community folks, complete with an IRC channel during the live
> discussions. Further discussion has happened in Fedora board meetings and
> public Fedora lists.
Which lists exactly?
> > * unclear role of FESCo, not enough steering -- instead: the drive
> > that "you don't need to be in FESCo to get something done",
>
> I don't even know what you mean by this.
That's sad. But you're not listed as a FESCo member anyway.
Perhaps I should lose my hope that somebody else in FESCo still has
a clue what I refer to.
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17 years, 3 months
AFK till 27th March
by Jindrich Novy
Hi all,
I want to inform you that I'll be AFK till 27th March, starting from
tomorrow, because of my trip to Vietnam.
Jindrich
17 years, 3 months
rawhide report: 20070223 changes
by Build System
Updated Packages:
fedora-logos-6.0.92-4.fc7
-------------------------
* Thu Feb 22 2007 Jeremy Katz <katzj(a)redhat.com> - 6.0.92-4
- resave the syslinux splash so that it works (lalalala....)
* Thu Feb 22 2007 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 6.0.92-3
- Improve the branded lock dialog
* Wed Feb 21 2007 Matthias Clasen <mclasen(a)redhat.com> - 6.0.92-2
- Some more new images
kernel-2.6.20-1.2940.fc7
------------------------
* Wed Feb 21 2007 Kristian Høgsberg <krh(a)redhat.com>
- Rediff firewire patch, include fixes for #228017.
* Wed Feb 21 2007 Dave Jones <davej(a)redhat.com>
- 2.6.21-rc1
libtool-1.5.22-10
-----------------
* Wed Feb 21 2007 Karsten Hopp <karsten(a)redhat.com> 1.5.22-10
- fix libtool-ltdl post/postun requirements
Broken deps for ia64
----------------------------------------------------------
pcmciautils - 014-5.ia64 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.12-1.1411_FC5
systemtap - 0.5.10-1.fc7.ia64 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11
systemtap-runtime - 0.5.10-1.fc7.ia64 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11
Broken deps for s390
----------------------------------------------------------
systemtap - 0.5.10-1.fc7.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11
systemtap-runtime - 0.5.10-1.fc7.s390 requires kernel >= 0:2.6.9-11
17 years, 3 months
DVD only for Fedora "Classic" spin?
by Jesse Keating
For Test2, I'm planning on doing the Fedora "Classic" spin for folks to work
with. Doing the Everything spin at this point is just going to take up a LOT
of bandwidth / space for such a temporary thing. I do believe we'll have a
Desktop (Gnome) LiveCD as well, perhaps a KDE one if the KDE folks kick some
butt.
That said, we've toyed with the idea of doing DVD iso only for the Classic
(and Everything) spin. Easy enough for me to do in pungi, I'll just set the
cd size to 4.5G and produce one iso.
So, how much hate will be thrown my way if we just do a DVD sized iso for
Test2's Classic spin?
--
Jesse Keating
Release Engineer: Fedora
17 years, 3 months
a question abotu the .spec file
by Chris Taylor
Hi,
First off let me caveat this by saying that I came across this while trying
to apply the skas patch to the 2.6.19.src.rpm for fc5.
I had previously installed other versions of the source rpm and now when
trying to build a kernel rpm I'm having some issues. It appears that when I
prep the kernel sources (rpm -bp) the default .spec file tries to apply all
config files in the current directory.
from line 1111 of kernel-2.6.spec:
# now run oldconfig over all the config files
for i in *.config
do
mv $i .config
Arch=`head -1 .config | cut -b 3-`
make ARCH=$Arch nonint_oldconfig > /dev/null
echo "# $Arch" > configs/$i
cat .config >> configs/$i
done
since there are different .config files for each iteration of the kernel (
i.e kernel-2.6.19-i586.config vs kernel-2.6.18-i586.config) should the
.spec file be specific to the kernel that it's intended for? I guess what
I'm trying to say is, shouldn't there be a /SPECS/kernel-2.6.19.spec and a
/SPECS/kernel-2.6.17.spec file?
In the file the it would look for *$(kversion)*.spec instead of *.config .
There might be a few other places in this file this would apply.
I'd be happy to submit a patch if you'd be interested in this change?
Respectfully,
Chris
Respectfully,
Christopher Taylor
17 years, 3 months
The future of pfmon?
by Jef Spaleta
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=229711
At least for fc6... the kernel doesnt support perfmon, which makes the
existance of pfmon in Core a bit amusing.
So I have to ask, in the F7 timeframe, pfmon isn't on a defined spin
is it? Even the 'classic' spin, That would be somewhat wasteful. I
won't question its overall worth in the Fedora repository, I'm sure
people roll their own kernels and find a use for this tool.
-jef
17 years, 3 months
