On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 15:42 -0300, Horst H. von Brand wrote:
Ralf Corsepius rc040203@freenet.de wrote:
On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 14:28 +0100, Emmanuel Seyman wrote:
- Ralf Corsepius [22/12/2008 13:51] :
Right, implementing a fork is the last resort, when an opensource project's leadership doesn't want listen.
That's not true.
We've discussed this idea several times and, when people are told that they need to show there's a group of contributors to this project before infrastructure is dedicated to it, they don't fork the updates, they start whining and making up a whole bunch of excuses to justify not doing the work.
We are turning in circles - It's a hen and egg problem.
No...
... sssst ... bang ... a bullet ...
FESCo brushes off volunteers,
Haven't seen such.
the @RHs (here A.C) gun-down any
volunteers,
What I just saw was an _encouragement_ to go and just do it. That is not "gun down".
Well, to me these "just do it" read as "piss off, we (RH) are not willing to support any such proposal".
Patrice already turned away from Fedora, I for one have significantly cut down my involvement into Fedora and am considering to further cut it down.
Sorry to hear that.
Yes. And ... rest assured, this mail of yours, as well as a similar reply of yours in a preceding similar threat have further added to it.
Ralf