Hi all,
I was just wondering: How mature is ABRTs duplicate detection?
You might all know the MS "search for a solution to this problem" window popping up after an application crashes. I've never seen it doing something usefull, though. But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes one could use this to display a workaround or even propose an update via packagekit. All we'd need to do would be to tag (or maybe link from, if a wiki would be better) an bugzilla entry as containing either a workaround or a fix. ABRT could then display the solution just after the crash happened. Great, wouldn't it be?
comments?
Christoph
lör 2010-04-24 klockan 10:37 +0200 skrev Christoph Höger:
But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes one could use this to display a workaround or even propose an update via packagekit.
It could look in bodhi for packages which claim to fix the bug. "Would you like to test a proposed fix for this problem?" If the update is already installed or obsoleted then it just comments on the bug as usual.
Also, a week later, if the same user logs in again: "Have you experienced any problems with the update of package foo which was installed last Tuesday to fix the problem 'Foo borkborks on bar when baz'?"
/Alexander
Am Sonntag, den 25.04.2010, 19:56 +0200 schrieb Alexander Boström:
lör 2010-04-24 klockan 10:37 +0200 skrev Christoph Höger:
But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes one could use this to display a workaround or even propose an update via packagekit.
It could look in bodhi for packages which claim to fix the bug. "Would you like to test a proposed fix for this problem?" If the update is already installed or obsoleted then it just comments on the bug as usual.
Also, a week later, if the same user logs in again: "Have you experienced any problems with the update of package foo which was installed last Tuesday to fix the problem 'Foo borkborks on bar when baz'?"
Yeah that would be the "easy" part. The more difficult would handle the workarounds.
Nice to see some interest in this.
2010/4/24 Christoph Höger choeger@cs.tu-berlin.de:
Hi all,
I was just wondering: How mature is ABRTs duplicate detection?
You might all know the MS "search for a solution to this problem" window popping up after an application crashes. I've never seen it doing something usefull, though. But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes one could use this to display a workaround or even propose an update via packagekit. All we'd need to do would be to tag (or maybe link from, if a wiki would be better) an bugzilla entry as containing either a workaround or a fix. ABRT could then display the solution just after the crash happened. Great, wouldn't it be?
comments?
Christoph
I've cced the crash-catcher mailing list. Probably the developers can comment more about this idea, but in general I really - especially the part -known bug & known workaround, which might be linked to a wiki-like database of user problems and solutions.
Radek
On 04/25/2010 09:33 PM, Radek Vokal wrote:
2010/4/24 Christoph Högerchoeger@cs.tu-berlin.de:
Hi all,
I was just wondering: How mature is ABRTs duplicate detection?
You might all know the MS "search for a solution to this problem" window popping up after an application crashes. I've never seen it doing something usefull, though. But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes one could use this to display a workaround or even propose an update via packagekit. All we'd need to do would be to tag (or maybe link from, if a wiki would be better) an bugzilla entry as containing either a workaround or a fix. ABRT could then display the solution just after the crash happened. Great, wouldn't it be?
comments?
Christoph
I've cced the crash-catcher mailing list. Probably the developers can comment more about this idea, but in general I really - especially the part -known bug& known workaround, which might be linked to a wiki-like database of user problems and solutions.
Radek
If ABRT finds a duplicate it can ask bodhi if an update fixing this BZ exists and if so, then it can provide a way to run pkgkit to install this update.
J.
Crash-catcher mailing list Crash-catcher@lists.fedorahosted.org https://fedorahosted.org/mailman/listinfo/crash-catcher
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 09:33:40PM +0200, Radek Vokal wrote:
You might all know the MS "search for a solution to this problem" window popping up after an application crashes. I've never seen it doing something usefull, though. But if ABRT could detect duplicate crashes one could use this to display a workaround or even propose an update via
I've cced the crash-catcher mailing list. Probably the developers can comment more about this idea, but in general I really - especially the part -known bug & known workaround, which might be linked to a wiki-like database of user problems and solutions.
Also pretty relevant (and implemented by MS & Apple) is whether the crash has potential security implications. Doing it "well" is somewhat involved, but a rough estimate shouldn't be that difficult, look at the backtrace and do a little-lots of heuristics.
http://msecdbg.codeplex.com/ http://seclists.org/dailydave/2009/q3/11
We may be doing some work in this area soon btw. :)