EPEL Leadership (Was: Re: June stable push ?)
On Jun 12, 2009, at 5:00 AM, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
But the latter not the case anymore. Sure, packagers are still doing a
whole lot of good work, but leadership/steering is afaics nearly not
existent at all, which IMHO is a dangerous situation for a project
like
EPEL (especially as RHEL6 is not that far away anymore and we need
to be
prepared for that).
Some examples: No weekly reports for months (which were a requirement
from FESCo when the EPEL Steering Committee was formed and thus should
still be written!), nearly no meetings and the steering committee
obviously doesn't even care if testing -> stable move get done. Hey,
not
even one of the steering committee members actually answered your mail
in the past few days which IMHO tells us everything already.
Agreed, the leadership has gone stagnant lately. Partly due to
conflicting schedules, and I think partly due to lack of interest:
"things are working good enough". There have been various grumblings
of things to do, but not too much has come from it. I think that EPEL
is a side project for most, if not all, of the steering committee, and
without at least one dedicated leader, we've all gotten distracted by
other things.
IMHO it's time for the steering committee to say "Sorry, we screwed
up,
we all step down; the last thing we do it to make sure a new steering
committee is formed somehow"
I would be glad to step down if I thought it were the best thing to
do, but I don't think that it is. We have trouble even getting more
than one or two non-steering committee members to the meetings (when
we do have them!). What makes you think that we could find enough
interested/motivated people to replace the entire committee? I'm
under the impression that EPEL is popular with end users but there
aren't many in the user pool who are willing or able to step up and
help make EPEL better.
(ยน) Yes, I did prepare a few stable pushes over the past few months to
help out, but I mentioned a few times already that I didn't really
want
to do them anymore; looking back at it I should have made it more
clear
to prevent the current situation; sorry for that;
I don't think any of this is your fault...
-Jeff