Re. Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE) (George R Goffe)

[George R Goffe]

Thanks for the responses.

It's definitely still alive so PLEASE don't ignore it.

This problem has just appeared with version 4.0 which was released about a year ago.

The problem also seems to have appeared in Fedora 40 and this version of konsole
"konsole5-23.08.3-1.fc40.x86_64 : KDE Terminal emulator". The problem now
appears in multiple versions of "the" and multiple versions of
"ncurses".

I have been using it for quite a few years (since at least 1995) without this kind of
problem.

Best regards,

George...





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  1. Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE) (George R Goffe)
  2. Re: Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE)
      (Patrick O'Callaghan)
  3. Re: Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE) (Troy Dawson)
  4. Re: Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE)
      (Patrick O'Callaghan)

Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 19:27:12 +0000 (UTC)From: George R Goffe <grgoffe(a)yahoo.com
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Subject: Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE)
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Hi,

For some time now I have seen a problem with "the".

It seems to happen with earlier versions of "the" and ncurses.

The test setup:

make 2 tabs in a konsole widget. This problem DOES NOT APPEAR in xterms.
enter the <any file name> in a konsole tab.
switch to another tab or anywhere else
switch back
the has exited (after entering NO commands). the exits unless the file under edit has
been
     changed. In this case, the last line in the file is the "current" line.


this problem seems to be exhibited regardless of "the" version and/or
"ncurses" version.

The problem appears as if the quit command and others has been entered. No such command
has been entered though.

Have you seen anything like this? Could it be a konsole config issue?

Best regards,

George...

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 22:26:18 +0000
From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com
>  
Subject:
Re: Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE)
To: kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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On Mon, 2023-12-11 at 19:27 +0000, George R Goffe wrote:
>  Hi,
>  
>  For some time now I have seen a problem with "the".
>  
>  It seems to happen with earlier versions of "the" and ncurses.
>  
>  The test setup:
>  
>  make 2 tabs in a konsole widget. This problem DOES NOT APPEAR in
>  xterms.
>  enter the <any file name> in a konsole tab.
>  switch to another tab or anywhere else
>  switch back
>  the has exited (after entering NO commands). the exits unless the
>  file under edit has been
>       changed. In this case, the last line in the file is the
>  "current" line.
>  
>  
>  this problem seems to be exhibited regardless of "the" version and/or
>  "ncurses" version.
>  
>  The problem appears as if the quit command and others has been
>  entered. No such command has been entered though.
>  
>  Have you seen anything like this? Could it be a konsole config issue? 
Never heard of something called THE and it doesn't seem to be in the
standard repos (I looked for 'the', 'THE' and 'hessing' with no
results). What is this?

poc

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 15:15:59 -0800
From: Troy Dawson <tdawson(a)redhat.com
>  
Subject:
Re: Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE)
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On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 2:26=E2=80=AFPM Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan@gm=
ail.com
>  
wrote:

>  On Mon, 2023-12-11 at 19:27 +0000, George R Goffe wrote:
>  > Hi,
> >  
>  > For some time now I have seen a problem with
> "the".
> >  
>  > It seems to happen with earlier versions of
> "the" and ncurses.
> >  
>  > The test setup:
> >  
>  > make 2 tabs in a konsole widget. This problem DOES NOT
> APPEAR in
>  > xterms.
>  > enter the <any file name> in a konsole tab.
>  > switch to another tab or anywhere else
>  > switch back
>  > the has exited (after entering NO commands). the exits unless the
>  > file under edit has been
>  >      changed. In this case, the last line in the file is the
>  > "current" line.
> >  
> >  
>  > this problem seems to be
> exhibited regardless of "the" version and/or
>  > "ncurses" version.
> >  
>  > The problem appears as if the quit command and others has
> been
>  > entered. No such command has been entered though.
> >  
>  > Have you seen anything like this? Could it be a konsole
> config issue?
>
>  Never heard of something called THE and it doesn't seem to be in the
>  standard repos (I looked for 'the', 'THE' and 'hessing' with no
>  results). What is this?
>
>  poc
>  
It's a crazy old editor[1]
"Based on the IBM mainframe editor XEDIT, and includes many features of
Kedit."
It's code hasn't been touched in 10 years [2]

[1] - https://hessling-editor.sourceforge.net/
[2] - https://sourceforge.net/p/hessling-editor/code/HEAD/tree/

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Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 23:44:48 +0000
From: Patrick O'Callaghan <pocallaghan(a)gmail.com
>  
Subject:
Re: Problems with "the Hessling editor" (THE)
To: kde(a)lists.fedoraproject.org
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On Mon, 2023-12-11 at 15:15 -0800, Troy Dawson wrote:
>  > Never heard of something called THE and it doesn't seem to
> be in
>  > the
>  > standard repos (I looked for 'the', 'THE' and 'hessing' with
> no
>  > results). What is this?
>  > 
>  > poc
>  > 
>  
>  It's a crazy old editor[1]
>  "Based on the IBM mainframe editor XEDIT, and includes many features
>  of
>  Kedit."
>  It's code hasn't been touched in 10 years [2] 
Thanks. I'll ignore it then.

poc

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2023-12-13 at 04:55 +0000, George R Goffe wrote:
>  Thanks for the responses.
>   
>  It's definitely still alive so PLEASE don't ignore it.
>  
>  This problem has just appeared with version 4.0 which was released
>  about a year ago. 
As I mentioned previously, this doesn't appear to be in the standard
repos. Where did you get it? Presumably it has Bug URL, which the
package info would tell you about. That might be a better place to
report this.

<rant>
PLEASE don't reply to message digests. Your reply is completely
detached from the original thread because it doesn't follow the normal
header conventions. Simply editing the Subject line is not enough.

(Also, you quoted the entire digest, which tends to happen when people
top-post).

If you must use digests, then use your mail client to reply to the
specific message. Most modern MUAs can do this and will preserve the
correct headers.

Better still: don't use digests. They are an obsolete kludge from the
days of UUCP and dial-up modems and with always-on connectivity they
really make no sense.
</rant>

poc