8:52 a.m.
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for chromium-browser
I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a clean, cold boot.
There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The bubble fills up, I
see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to catch it and get a
level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I
wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Anne
9:46 a.m.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The
bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to
catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue
what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub
entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be
damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens -
it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Anne
10:17 a.m.
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
> chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
> clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The
> bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to
> catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue
> what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
>
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the
grub
entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be
damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing
happens -
it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Utterly absurd for me to suggest something to you -
like telling my grand-daughter how to improve her Irish dancing -
but if it were me I would run something like Knoppix,
and see what was in /var/log/messages , etc.
Actually, the last time this happened to me
my / partition was full.
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10:37 a.m.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:17, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
>> chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
>> clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated.
>> The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could
>> try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't
>> a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any
ideas?
>
> Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the
> grub
> entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be
> damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing
> happens -
> it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Utterly absurd for me to suggest something to you -
like telling my grand-daughter how to improve her Irish dancing -
but if it were me I would run something like Knoppix,
and see what was in /var/log/messages , etc.
Actually, the last time this happened to me
my / partition was full.
Well, unless something like a core-dump has filled it, that shouldn't be the
problem, but I'm beginning to think that I have to get my data off, so you
are probably right about reaching for knoppix :-)
Anne
12:34 p.m.
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 15:37 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:17, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> Anne Wilson wrote:
> > On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
> >> Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
> >> chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
> >> clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated.
> >> The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could
> >> try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I
haven't
> >> a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any
ideas?
> >
> > Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the
> > grub
> > entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be
> > damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing
> > happens -
> > it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
>
> Utterly absurd for me to suggest something to you -
> like telling my grand-daughter how to improve her Irish dancing -
> but if it were me I would run something like Knoppix,
> and see what was in /var/log/messages , etc.
>
> Actually, the last time this happened to me
> my / partition was full.
Well, unless something like a core-dump has filled it, that shouldn't be the
problem, but I'm beginning to think that I have to get my data off, so you
are probably right about reaching for knoppix :-)
Or just use Fedora in Rescue mode.
poc
1:12 p.m.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 17:34:45 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 15:37 +0000, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:17, Timothy Murphy wrote:
> > Anne Wilson wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > >> Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
> > >> chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to
> > >> get a clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully
> > >> updated. The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it
> > >> reboots. I could try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of
> > >> course, but since I haven't a clue what's causing this, I
wouldn't
> > >> know what to do next. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited
> > > the grub
> > > entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must
> > > be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same
> > > thing happens -
> > > it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely
> > > stuck.
> >
> > Utterly absurd for me to suggest something to you -
> > like telling my grand-daughter how to improve her Irish dancing -
> > but if it were me I would run something like Knoppix,
> > and see what was in /var/log/messages , etc.
> >
> > Actually, the last time this happened to me
> > my / partition was full.
>
> Well, unless something like a core-dump has filled it, that shouldn't be
> the problem, but I'm beginning to think that I have to get my data off,
> so you are probably right about reaching for knoppix :-)
Or just use Fedora in Rescue mode.
Of course, although knoppix offers the comfort of a gui :-) However, I didn't
need either, now that I've found and fixed the problem.
Anne
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10:18 a.m.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
> chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
> clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The
> bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to
> catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue
> what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub
entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be
damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens
- it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely
stuck.
Hi,
Was udev updated? Bruno Wolf III had some sort of the same issue in fc13 [1].
Reverting udev solved it.
Martin Kho
[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-March/089455.html
Anne
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10:41 a.m.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:18, Martin Kho wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
> > chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
> > clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated.
> > The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could
> > try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't
> > a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any
> > ideas?
>
> Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the
> grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub
> must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same
> thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm
> completely stuck.
Even a level 1 reboots!
Hi,
Was udev updated? Bruno Wolf III had some sort of the same issue in fc13
[1]. Reverting udev solved it.
Certainly I had run updates earlier today, but I don't know whether udev was
among them. I see an F11 update listed, but not F12. I'm not even certain
that I know how to downgrade udev, but I'll have a go.
Anne
10:53 a.m.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:18, Martin Kho wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
> > Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
> > chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
> > clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated.
> > The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could
> > try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't
> > a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any
> > ideas?
>
> Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the
> grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub
> must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same
> thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm
> completely stuck.
Hi,
Was udev updated? Bruno Wolf III had some sort of the same issue in fc13
[1]. Reverting udev solved it.
Reading on through that thread, the symptoms are identical - and the error
message about iTCO_wdt is also identical.
OK - in the rescue system, udev is downgraded - the process finished
with 'unable to connect to dbus' - I don't know whether that's to be
expected. Now to reboot.
Bingo! The latest udev in F12 is poisoned, too!
Anne
11:07 a.m.
New subject: Constant reboot, udev-145-16.fc12 bad
Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:18, Martin Kho wrote:
> Was udev updated? Bruno Wolf III had some sort of the same issue
in fc13
> [1]. Reverting udev solved it.
>
Reading on through that thread, the symptoms are identical - and the error
message about iTCO_wdt is also identical.
OK - in the rescue system, udev is downgraded - the process finished
with 'unable to connect to dbus' - I don't know whether that's to be
expected. Now to reboot.
Bingo! The latest udev in F12 is poisoned, too!
Confirmed, that udev-145-16.fc12 in updates-testing is bad.
Bug tracking this, including a workaround,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=575417#c12
Looks like the queue'd/pending update should address this too,
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/udev-145-19.fc12
(and for f13,
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/udev-151-7.fc13
)
-- Rex
10:35 a.m.
On 03/23/2010 11:46 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
> Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
> chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
> clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated. The
> bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could try to
> catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't a clue
> what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any ideas?
>
Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the grub
entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub must be
damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same thing happens -
it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm completely stuck.
Same thing with run level S (Single user mode)?
Anne
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11:37 a.m.
On Tuesday 23 March 2010 15:35:25 Patrick Boutilier wrote:
On 03/23/2010 11:46 AM, Anne Wilson wrote:
> On Tuesday 23 March 2010 13:52, Anne Wilson wrote:
>> Since I ended up with a large number of zombie processes for
>> chromium-browser I decided to shut down the laptop completely, to get a
>> clean, cold boot. There I came unstuck. This is F12, fully updated.
>> The bubble fills up, I see the Fedora logo, then it reboots. I could
>> try to catch it and get a level 3 login, of course, but since I haven't
>> a clue what's causing this, I wouldn't know what to do next. Any
>> ideas?
>
> Argh! I can't even get an level 3 boot. I snatched it and edited the
> grub entry, but still it reboots. I came to the conclusion that grub
> must be damaged, so I ran grub-install, but on reboot, still the same
> thing happens - it looks fine up to the Fedora logo, then reboots. I'm
> completely stuck.
Same thing with run level S (Single user mode)?
Yes. No different kernel nor different mode has any effect at all.
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-March/089455.html refers to
Fedora 13, but it was exactly the same, and like the reporter there, the
message about iTCO_wdt was the only thing I could see that looked wrong.
Reverting udev has cured it - I'm writing on it now :-)
The udev package -16 should be avoided. Apparently -19 is in the pipeline.
Anne
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