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Summary: Providing native systemd file for upcoming F15 Feature
                    Systemd
           Product: Fedora
           Version: 15
          Platform: Unspecified
        OS/Version: Unspecified
            Status: NEW
          Severity: unspecified
          Priority: unspecified
         Component: amavisd-new
        AssignedTo: [e-mail]
        ReportedBy: [e-mail]
         QAContact: [e-mail]
                CC: [e-mail], [e-mail],
                    [e-mail]
    Classification: Fedora
      Story Points: ---

Created attachment 491409
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Native systemd service file fo amavis daemon

Description of problem:

The attached file is a native systemd file for upcoming F15 Feature [1]

Please read [2] on how to packaging and installing systemd Service files.

To learn more about Systemd daemon see [3].

To view old SysV with the new Systemd site by site see for your component see
[4]

If you have any question dont hesitate to ask them on this bug report.

1.http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/systemd

2.https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Systemd_Packaging_Draft

3.http://0pointer.de/public/systemd-man/daemon.html

4.https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability

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--- Comment #1 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  2011-04-12 02:12:19 EDT ---
Created attachment 491410
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Native systemd service file for amavis daemon socket

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--- Comment #2 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  2011-04-12 02:12:47 EDT ---
Created attachment 491411
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Native systemd service file for clamd amavis daemon

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--- Comment #3 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  2011-04-12 02:13:11 EDT ---
Created attachment 491412
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Native systemd service file for clamd amavis daemon socket

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--- Comment #4 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  2011-04-12 02:18:07 EDT ---
Note that /var/spool/$foo is not a runtime directory so please fix and set the
correct path pointing to /var/run in relevant configuration files and be
advices that  in the future /run and $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR are the only places where
sockets are OK, yup not even /tmp anymore...

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            Version|15                          |rawhide

--- Comment #5 from Bill Nottingham  2011-04-26 13:35:43 EDT ---
Moving systemd service RFEs to rawhide.

At this point, it is not appropriate in the Fedora 15 cycle to add these.
Furthermore, at this point, we are still finalizing the packaging guidelines to
handle SysV -> systemd upgrades.

We therefore request:
- wait until there are packaging guidelines (this will be announced on the
devel list). This ensures that upgrades will work smoothly and we/you won't
have to do multiple sets of changes.
- work on these sorts of changes for Fedora 16 where necessary, not Fedora 15,
as we're trying to fix things for release.
- do *not* change a service from SysV to systemd in an existing release (such
as Fedora 15), as this is the sort of behavior change that goes against our
update policy, documented as https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy

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             Blocks|                            |713562(SysVtoSystemd)

--- Comment #6 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  2011-07-13 11:10:22 EDT ---
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Systemd
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Tmpfiles.d

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             Status|NEW                         |CLOSED
         Resolution|                            |DUPLICATE
        Last Closed|                            |2011-08-02 03:39:53

--- Comment #7 from Marcela Mašláňová  2011-08-02 03:39:53 EDT ---

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 695584 ***

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             Status|CLOSED                      |ASSIGNED
         Resolution|DUPLICATE                   |
           Keywords|                            |Reopened

--- Comment #8 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  2011-08-02 05:14:29 EDT ---
Triager please do some proper research before closing bugs as duplicates this
report contains the native systemd service files for amavisd daemon

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--- Comment #9 from Marcela Mašláňová  2011-08-02 06:35:37 EDT ---
You might pay more attention to creating bugs. Three bugs with same summary on
same component is confusing.

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--- Comment #10 from Jon Ciesla  2012-02-13 14:42:34 EST ---
Steven, any objection to my making this change?

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--- Comment #11 from Jon Ciesla  2012-03-14 12:23:57 EDT ---
Ping?

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            Summary|Providing native systemd    |Providing native systemd
                   |file for upcoming F15       |file for amavisd-new
                   |Feature Systemd             |

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--- Comment #12 from Michael J. Chudobiak  2012-04-03 16:20:06 EDT ---
Ping? Can we get clamd/amavisd rpms with native systemd service files to test?

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--- Comment #13 from Jon Ciesla  2012-04-03 16:27:31 EDT ---
Unless Steven objects I'll do this tonight or tomorrow.

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--- Comment #14 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  2012-04-03 17:20:04 EDT ---
You dont need rpms to be able to test submitted units against various
components.

It's enough for you to copy the relevant unit(s) to the /etc/systemd/system
directory and run systemctl daemon-reload.

Those units will then take precedence over the legacy sysv init scripts that
bears the same name as the unit...

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--- Comment #15 from Jon Ciesla  2012-04-03 22:03:34 EDT ---
Nearly ready, but are we supposed to be shipping .socket files at this point? 
I'm unclear on this.  The service won't be enabled by default.

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Systemd#Socket_activation

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--- Comment #17 from Adam Williamson  ---
*** Bug 789571 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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           Keywords|                            |FutureFeature
                 CC|                            |[e-mail]
           Doc Type|Bug Fix                     |Enhancement

--- Comment #18 from Adam Williamson  ---
Marking as FutureFeature so it doesn't get EOLed.

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--- Comment #19 from Juan Orti Alcaine  ---
This bug is more than 2 years old and still open. Steven, Could you add the
service unit, please? forget about the socket.

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--- Comment #20 from Paul Howarth  ---
Has anybody using amavisd tested the service file attached to this bug?

I don't think there's going to be any response from Steve - I think he's been
inactive in Fedora for over a year now.

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--- Comment #21 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  ---
Why has this not been orphaned then?

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--- Comment #22 from Paul Howarth  ---
Because Steve's lack of activity in Fedora has included lack of orphaning
packages perhaps?

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--- Comment #23 from Juan Orti Alcaine  ---
Created attachment 798640
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amavisd.service - without socket

This is the service unit I use for amavisd-new, the same as Jóhann, but without
the socket unit.

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Juan Orti Alcaine  changed:

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        is obsolete|                            |

--- Comment #24 from Juan Orti Alcaine  ---
Created attachment 798653
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amavisd.service - without socket

If clamav-server-systemd is installed, start clamd instance.

[Unit]
Wants=[e-mail]

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--- Comment #25 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  ---
That's not sufficient and I tried to start a discussion at the package list how
we should be dealing with these components but that turned out to be a waste of
my time in any case I'm going to ping someone at the admin group and have this
package removed or atleast orphaned

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--- Comment #26 from Petr Pisar  ---
(In reply to Jóhann B. Guðmundsson from comment #25)
> That's not sufficient and I tried to start a discussion at the package list
> how we should be dealing with these components but that turned out to be a
> waste of my time in any case I'm going to ping someone at the admin group
> and have this package removed or atleast orphaned

You cannot orphan other's package. You have to start unresponsive maintainer
process, and after finishing that positively, the package will be orphaned.

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--- Comment #27 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  ---
(In reply to Petr Pisar from comment #26)
> (In reply to Jóhann B. Guðmundsson from comment #25)
> > That's not sufficient and I tried to start a discussion at the package list
> > how we should be dealing with these components but that turned out to be a
> > waste of my time in any case I'm going to ping someone at the admin group
> > and have this package removed or atleast orphaned
>
> You cannot orphan other's package. You have to start unresponsive maintainer
> process, and after finishing that positively, the package will be orphaned.

I thought fesco had been spending time on fixing the orphaning and cleanup
process inefficiency since for feature owners and others doing work that span
multiple release cycles we need to have this essentially done by alpha ( as in
removing and or finding other maintainers ) so people wont be spending time on
fixing packages that already are in essence "dead" within the distribution.

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--- Comment #28 from Marcela Mašláňová  ---
Could you point me to such FESCo ticket, where this direction was approved?

The package is still working, right? So why should be removed?

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--- Comment #29 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  ---
(In reply to Marcela Mašláňová from comment #28)
> Could you point me to such FESCo ticket, where this direction was approved?

Which direction would that be? and given that you are on fesco and are unaware
of anywork on fesco behalf on fixing the cleanup process I think it safe to
assume that fesco is not working on it...
> The package is still working, right? So why should be removed?

Since you need to ask in the first place despite the countless discuss about
this through several reoccurring threads on devel over the years then there is
no point in explaining why it should be remove to you.

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--- Comment #30 from Nicolas Mailhot  ---
(In reply to Jóhann B. Guðmundsson from comment #25)
> That's not sufficient and I tried to start a discussion at the package list
> how we should be dealing with these components but that turned out to be a
> waste of my time in any case I'm going to ping someone at the admin group
> and have this package removed or atleast orphaned

What's not sufficient in the systemd rules people posted and that work for
them?

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--- Comment #31 from Jóhann B. Guðmundsson  ---
(In reply to Nicolas Mailhot from comment #30)
> (In reply to Jóhann B. Guðmundsson from comment #25)
> > That's not sufficient and I tried to start a discussion at the package list
> > how we should be dealing with these components but that turned out to be a
> > waste of my time in any case I'm going to ping someone at the admin group
> > and have this package removed or atleast orphaned
>
> What's not sufficient in the systemd rules people posted and that work for
> them?

Because it brings inconsistency between these components in anycase do what you
want I'm not interesting in repeating something I pointed out and tried to
reach conscious about in 2011.

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Juan Orti Alcaine  changed:

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           Assignee|[e-mail]             |[e-mail]

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             Status|ASSIGNED                    |CLOSED
         Resolution|---                         |NEXTRELEASE
        Last Closed|2011-08-02 03:39:53         |2014-02-16 11:38:13

--- Comment #32 from Juan Orti Alcaine  ---
amavisd-new 2.8.1-1 has been pushed to rawhide with systemd service files.

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