Not sure if it counts as "test": I usually get impatient if it looks like a new release is soon to come (around first beta), so I upgrade to the new version (x86_64), so this might be some kind of upgrade-path test, but its in no way structured in any way.
I think automated testing can catch most of the basic bugs, which are not related to specific hardware problems - a lot of bugs seem to be caught by the automatic installation test.
And manual testing seems to be a lot of work, with less reward. It looks to me that bugs not detected by automatic testing have some specific requirement on hardware/non-standard installation/network environment/… which is likely to be found during normal use, so I'd just recommend to run beta releases if possible, that way releases are better tested and the main release might contain less bugs.
All the best, Astra
On Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 04:56:12PM +0100, Peter Boy wrote:
Am 31.10.2021 um 16:03 schrieb Ahmed Almeleh aalmeleh.whatever.0101@gmail.com:
mostly through written tickets on bugzilla and fedora blocker bugs. Then we QA test different bugs to see if we get the same results.
there were none regarding server, as far as I know.
Let's wait and see what other members come up with.
On Sun, 31 Oct 2021 at 14:35, Peter Boy pboy@uni-bremen.de wrote: Dear Ahmed
Am 31.10.2021 um 13:39 schrieb Ahmed Almeleh aalmeleh.whatever.0101@gmail.com:
I didn't yet test the server variant of the x86_64 architecture of Fedora 35 RC 1.2 manually; however I have tested some of the base images for Fedora workstation 35 RC 1.1 for the MATE spin. All of which passed. Also I tested the "Everything netinst" for Fedora Workstation 35 RC 1.2 that passed as well. Majority of the tests are ran by Coconut, one of the bots. Mostly through openQA. If required I can test the server server variant of the x86_64 architecture of Fedora 35 RC 1.2 manually. I do think that manual testing is better as bots are able to sometimes become faulty.
many many thanks for your offering. I'm afraid it's too late now for testing the installation. F35 is go and Tuesday is release time. Now one can only hope. But it would be very helpful if we could count on your help for rawhide / F36.
I really don’t know what is best to do. I’m wondering (and worrying) how these issues came about. In fact, I don't even know what is tested per bot in detail. With workstations, there are likely to be hardware and driver peculiarities (different graphics adapters, proprietary wifi, etc.). With headless servers, many things do not even arise. How does the workstation WG organize all of that?
Thanks Peter
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