spins June 2010

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Looking for Design Suite (Co-) Maintainers
by Sebastian Dziallas 24 Jun '10

24 Jun '10

Hi all, I've been the maintainer of the Fedora Design Suite [1] for the past release cycle [2], which has also been part of the F13 talking points [3]. However, I'll be starting college at the end of the summer and I'm suspecting that I might have a little less time then. Hence, I'm looking at handing the Design Suite off. I'd be very happy to walk people through the build process and to help in case trouble arises, though. Please drop me a line if you're interested (or ping me in IRC -- I'm sdziallas there). --Sebastian [1] http://spins.fedoraproject.org/design/ [2] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite [3] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Talking_Points#Spins

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Re: [Fedora-spins] [Fedora-livecd-list] livecd-tools 032 coming
by Daniel J Walsh 22 Jun '10

22 Jun '10

On 06/21/2010 03:51 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 03:10:38PM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote: >> On 06/21/2010 02:57 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: >>> [Sorry to reply to GP - I'm not on spins@] >>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 14:06:18 -0400, >>>> Daniel J Walsh<dwalsh(a)redhat.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> One think I would like to talk about with livecd-creator would be a way >>>>> to setup the livecd to have uninterrupted boot. >>>>> >>>>> The question is, am I the only one who thinks this is interesting? >>> >>> IIUC, "uninterrupted" boot is quite useful for Sugar on a Stick[1], at >>> least on some architectures (XO-1, XO-1.5). If it wasn't present, >>> we'd have to hack it in[2] >>> >>> Martin >>> >>> 1. http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ >>> 2. http://cgit.sugarlabs.org/soas/mainline/tree/soas-liveuserscripts-eliminate… >> >> >> My idea is for apps like cash registers/kiosk/demo booths. If I >> imbed a bootable OS and do not allow external USB/CD. Theoretically >> people who can touch the box, can not boot their own OS or break >> into the OS to turn off security features like SELinux/iptables etc. > > That sounds like "uninterruptable" boot to me, to be pedantic. Seems > like plenty of overlap between what I was understanding as > "uninterrupted" -- no user input / confusing configuration required -- > and what I imagine cash registers/kiosk/demo booths would require to > be "uniterruptable". > > On that basis I'd say: > >>>>> The question is, am I the only one who thinks this is >>>>> interesting? > > No, it's plenty interesting. If it was unintentional that > livecd-tools provided something close to this, please don't take it > away. Further enhancing livecd-tools in such a way is very useful. > > Thanks, > Martin My vision is to allow an admin to setup a piece of hardware with a live OS that a user touching the machine, could not break into. I also want NO admin password, since I want this thing to be cookie cutter. If pxe booting the OS worked, that would even be better. The machine would be setup with bios lock, and no USB/CDROM exposed or bootable. Then just boot the live OS. Live OS is locked down by SELinux confined xguest user no access to root, optionally IPTABLES lock down to a particular IP Address or IP Network. In stead of worrying about upgrading the Machine, you periodically replace the live OS Image.

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spins.fedoraproject.org statistics
by Igor Pires Soares 21 Jun '10

21 Jun '10

Hello! It seems to me that the spins.fedoraproject.org statistics are taking into account only the downloads via torrent. Since now we have direct spins download it would be nice to aggregate these statistics as well. Is there a way of put them all together? The BrOffice.org spin has also been downloaded via other websites which link to download.fedoraproject.org, and having the correct statistics would be good to know how is it going. Regards, Igor Pires Soares

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Re: [Fedora-spins] [Fedora-livecd-list] livecd-tools 032 coming
by Daniel J Walsh 21 Jun '10

21 Jun '10

On 06/21/2010 02:57 PM, Martin Dengler wrote: > [Sorry to reply to GP - I'm not on spins@] > >> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 14:06:18 -0400, >> Daniel J Walsh<dwalsh(a)redhat.com> wrote: >>> >>> One think I would like to talk about with livecd-creator would be a way >>> to setup the livecd to have uninterrupted boot. >>> >>> The question is, am I the only one who thinks this is interesting? > > IIUC, "uninterrupted" boot is quite useful for Sugar on a Stick[1], at > least on some architectures (XO-1, XO-1.5). If it wasn't present, > we'd have to hack it in[2] > > Martin > > 1. http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/ > 2. http://cgit.sugarlabs.org/soas/mainline/tree/soas-liveuserscripts-eliminate… My idea is for apps like cash registers/kiosk/demo booths. If I imbed a bootable OS and do not allow external USB/CD. Theoretically people who can touch the box, can not boot their own OS or break into the OS to turn off security features like SELinux/iptables etc.

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livecd-tools 032 coming
by Bruno Wolff III 21 Jun '10

21 Jun '10

livecd-tools 032 is being built for rawhide and will probably be used for the nightly builds soon. Please speak up if you see any brokenness that might be due to this update.

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Download instructions on the Spins page
by Peter Robinson 17 Jun '10

17 Jun '10

Hi All, I'm helping out at POSSE Worcester this week and one of the things that people asked when looking through the spins download pages was "How do I make this into a live image on a USB stick?" so I looked around the site and noticed that the only spot that seems to mention what do do with a .iso once its downloaded is a couple of paragraphs in the about page. As a spin might be the first place that people try Fedora as its unobtrusive it might be worthwhile compressing the 2 paragraphs on the about page (one for optical and one for USB media) into a single paragraph with some links on the actual download page so they don't have to hunt for it and to make it as easy as possible for people to be able to get started. Peter

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livecd-creator failed
by Danishka Navin 13 Jun '10

13 Jun '10

Hi, Got an error while creating the iso file. http://fpaste.org/078M/ How to fix this? -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com

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Heads up 'man' probably changing to 'man-db'
by Bruno Wolff III 12 Jun '10

12 Jun '10

I noticed that man-db is obsoleting man in rawhide and that we will probably want to change references to man in ks files to man-db. However man is still in rawhide as well, so for now I just filed a bug to ask about this. If I get confirmation that man is going away, I'll make changes to ks files in the master branch to reflect this.

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New squashfs-tools in rawhide
by Bruno Wolff III 11 Jun '10

11 Jun '10

I am building the 4.1 prerelease version of squashfs-tools for rawhide. The default is to use zlib for compression, so this shouldn't break anything. But if it does, please let me know.

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Spin meeting results
by Bruno Wolff III 08 Jun '10

08 Jun '10

Meeting started by brunowolff at 21:01:59 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-07/spins-sig.2010-0… . Meeting summary --------------- * HELP: (brunowolff, 21:02:05) * HELP: (brunowolff, 21:02:16) * who's here? (brunowolff, 21:03:33) * LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_SIG_Meetings (brunowolff, 21:05:01) * recruiting (brunowolff, 21:10:58) * ACTION: nirik will post on #fedora to try to recruit spin reviewers. (brunowolff, 21:13:27) * ACTION: bruno will make sure there is a wish list and nirik's idea of installing spins from a release is noted. (brunowolff, 21:15:16) * ACTION: nirik will also ping existing spin owners. (nirik, 21:15:42) * referring to spins meeting logs (brunowolff, 21:18:38) * LINK: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-06-07/spins-sig.2010-0… (nirik, 21:20:13) * ACTION: bruno will look into how to point to meeting logs and may make an RFE for meetbot. (brunowolff, 21:20:23) * meeting time (brunowolff, 21:24:30) * kickstart branching for f14 (brunowolff, 21:32:41) * LINK: http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=spin-kickstarts.git (nirik, 21:33:42) * LINK: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/spins/2010-May/001153.html (nirik, 21:34:50) * ACTION: bruno will flesh out nirik's schedule suggestions and we can review/vote on it next week. (brunowolff, 21:36:41) * responding to Paul (brunowolff, 21:39:22) * ACTION: nirik will mail spin owners. asking if any would be spins wrangler, and noting dates and proposed process changes. (nirik, 21:48:39) * ACTION: Nirik will write up proposed changes to the spin process and send it to spin owners along with a request for wrangler volunteers. (brunowolff, 21:48:52) * master branch changes (brunowolff, 21:49:20) * ACTION: brun will write up the documentation for rebuilding spin-kickstarts on the wiki using the new README as a base. (brunowolff, 21:51:10) * ACTION: bruno will write up the documentation for rebuilding spin-kickstarts on the wiki using the new README as a base. (brunowolff, 21:51:27) * ACTION: bruno will adjust agenda (brunowolff, 21:52:45) * ACTION: nirik will look iinto having spin-kickstart commits gated to the spins list. (brunowolff, 22:03:09) Meeting ended at 22:03:38 UTC. Action Items ------------ * nirik will post on #fedora to try to recruit spin reviewers. * bruno will make sure there is a wish list and nirik's idea of installing spins from a release is noted. * nirik will also ping existing spin owners. * bruno will look into how to point to meeting logs and may make an RFE for meetbot. * bruno will flesh out nirik's schedule suggestions and we can review/vote on it next week. * nirik will mail spin owners. asking if any would be spins wrangler, and noting dates and proposed process changes. * Nirik will write up proposed changes to the spin process and send it to spin owners along with a request for wrangler volunteers. * brun will write up the documentation for rebuilding spin-kickstarts on the wiki using the new README as a base. * bruno will write up the documentation for rebuilding spin-kickstarts on the wiki using the new README as a base. * bruno will adjust agenda * nirik will look iinto having spin-kickstart commits gated to the spins list. Action Items, by person ----------------------- * nirik * nirik will post on #fedora to try to recruit spin reviewers. * bruno will make sure there is a wish list and nirik's idea of installing spins from a release is noted. * nirik will also ping existing spin owners. * bruno will flesh out nirik's schedule suggestions and we can review/vote on it next week. * nirik will mail spin owners. asking if any would be spins wrangler, and noting dates and proposed process changes. * nirik will look iinto having spin-kickstart commits gated to the spins list. * **UNASSIGNED** * bruno will look into how to point to meeting logs and may make an RFE for meetbot. * Nirik will write up proposed changes to the spin process and send it to spin owners along with a request for wrangler volunteers. * brun will write up the documentation for rebuilding spin-kickstarts on the wiki using the new README as a base. * bruno will write up the documentation for rebuilding spin-kickstarts on the wiki using the new README as a base. * bruno will adjust agenda People Present (lines said) --------------------------- * brunowolff (105) * nirik (87) * zodbot (4) * dcr226 (4) * fenris02 (2)

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