Fedora 14 Schedule Reminder

[John Poelstra]

Start       End         Name
Tue 13-Jul  Tue 13-Jul  Custom Spins Submission Deadline
Tue 27-Jul  Tue 27-Jul  Spins Freeze--All Fedora 14 Spins Identified

[Pierros Papadeas]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:12 PM, John Poelstra  wrote:
> Start       End         Name
> Tue 13-Jul  Tue 13-Jul  Custom Spins Submission Deadline
> Tue 27-Jul  Tue 27-Jul  Spins Freeze--All Fedora 14 Spins Identified

Hey all :) I still try to understand through the wiki if we need to do
(or if we already did) something to state that Design Suite is
continuing to F14..

Sorry for asking but I cannot seem to find any conclusive info and I
am kinda new :P

Thanks!

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 21:37:42 +0300,
  P Papadeas  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:12 PM, John Poelstra  wrote:
> > Start       End         Name
> > Tue 13-Jul  Tue 13-Jul  Custom Spins Submission Deadline
> > Tue 27-Jul  Tue 27-Jul  Spins Freeze--All Fedora 14 Spins Identified
>
> Hey all :) I still try to understand through the wiki if we need to do
> (or if we already did) something to state that Design Suite is
> continuing to F14..

It should move from the category Spins_in_Development to the category
Spins_Ready_For_Wrangler. As of right now that hasn't been done.
While we know your spin is intended to be continued, your reluctant interim
spins wrangler would appreciate it if the spin owners did the update so that
he didn't have to. And next time around, getting that done early will help
keep us from worrying about the status and trying to do one off email to
spin owners.

Note that for recurring spins you are supposed to be following process:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Recurring_Releases

We haven't gotten a lot of feedback on that process, so if you find missing
stuff or broken stuff in the process, please speak up about it.

[Pierros Papadeas]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 21:37:42 +0300,
>  P Papadeas  wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:12 PM, John Poelstra  wrote:
> > > Start       End         Name
> > > Tue 13-Jul  Tue 13-Jul  Custom Spins Submission Deadline
> > > Tue 27-Jul  Tue 27-Jul  Spins Freeze--All Fedora 14 Spins Identified
> >
> > Hey all :) I still try to understand through the wiki if we need to do
> > (or if we already did) something to state that Design Suite is
> > continuing to F14..
>
> It should move from the category Spins_in_Development to the category
> Spins_Ready_For_Wrangler. As of right now that hasn't been done.
> While we know your spin is intended to be continued, your reluctant interim
> spins wrangler would appreciate it if the spin owners did the update so that
> he didn't have to. And next time around, getting that done early will help
> keep us from worrying about the status and trying to do one off email to
> spin owners.
>
> Note that for recurring spins you are supposed to be following process:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Spins_Recurring_Releases
>
> We haven't gotten a lot of feedback on that process, so if you find missing
> stuff or broken stuff in the process, please speak up about it.

OK I updated the category for the Design Suite [1] and clarified the
HEAD .ks and the F-13 .ks

The process seems quite self-explanatory and easily followed :)

Thanks for the info..

See ya around!

~π

[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Design_Suite

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 22:35:03 +0300,
  P Papadeas  wrote:
> OK I updated the category for the Design Suite [1] and clarified the
> HEAD .ks and the F-13 .ks
>
> The process seems quite self-explanatory and easily followed :)

We also wanted to preserve the F-13 version of the wiki page, not just the
link to the older ks files. I'll work up something and then have you double
check it.

I have been using the name of the development branch, 'master', instead of
'HEAD'. I want to look into that and see if using HEAD makes more sense
than using master. Whichever we do should be the same across spins.

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:38:42 -0500,
  Bruno Wolff III  wrote:
> I have been using the name of the development branch, 'master', instead of
> 'HEAD'. I want to look into that and see if using HEAD makes more sense
> than using master. Whichever we do should be the same across spins.

I checked and HEAD is the checked out branch. While this won't normally
change in the git repo, master is the more appropriate name for the
branch we develop in. I fix that at the same time I fix the reference to
the F13 version of the Design spin page.

[Bruno Wolff III]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 11:12:12 -0700,
  John Poelstra  wrote:
> Start       End         Name
> Tue 13-Jul  Tue 13-Jul  Custom Spins Submission Deadline
> Tue 27-Jul  Tue 27-Jul  Spins Freeze--All Fedora 14 Spins Identified

Just to report on how this is going, I am not expecting that all Spin owners
will have properly set there spins to Ready For Wrangler by tomorrow. However,
we have heard from all but one spin owner from the last release, and I will
be in an IRC meeting (on a different topic) with the last owner and will
collect their intentions there. I expect that we will make the All Spins
Identified milestone.

We currently have no new spins officially proposed for F14, which will
make the review easier to do. There are a few in development, but the only one
that might be proposed is Dan's, but it depends on some changes that we aren't
sure we want to do and we haven't been able to get a good technical review of
the changes done. So it probably isn't going to happen for F14. (I am not
sure if he wants an ISO or just to have the ks file in the ks package.)

The big issue is going to be owners doing sign off for the GA release. Based
on the slowness of response, I will be very pleasantly surprised if all of
the owners complete the sign off.