#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Keywords: ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- We really don't need to install all the language support groups for F10.
I propose the attached patch which might save us almost 100MB.
589M with current master fedora-livecd-desktop{,-default}.ks 681M with current F-10 fedora-livecd-desktop-default.ks
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by petersen):
589M with current master fedora-livecd-desktop{,-default}.ks
681M with current F-10 fedora-livecd-desktop-default.ks
or for "du -sh /usr/share/fonts": 62M vs 212M.
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by notting):
Can you post a list of the packages removed?
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by petersen):
Replying to [comment:2 notting]:
Can you post a list of the packages removed?
I posted the list above as a diff over the weekend: basically they are all fonts that are not needed by most users.
(just adding a comment here too since I am not sure how/if trac posts attachments)
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by notting):
Does the removal of the various scim-lang-XXX cause IM regressions?
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by petersen):
Replying to [comment:4 notting]:
Does the removal of the various scim-lang-XXX cause IM regressions?
They are just metapackages, and in the long term I would like to deprecate them anyway. This change also brings Live one step closer normal default installs which is a good thing IMHO. (The diff is the difference in the total package sets.)
(I don't like to moan but I did suggest this change about 2 years ago in bugzilla but the livecd-tools owner did not hear me.:)
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by petersen):
What is the final decision for F10 then, or are we already past that?
I don't think the change can have any serious impact given that it is what we do for normal installs anyway.
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by notting):
I think it may be late for F-10.
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: new Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by katzj):
Replying to [comment:7 notting]:
I think it may be late for F-10.
Yeah, definitely too late for F10 IMHO
And this does make differences vs "regular" installs as a regular install does the support of the langsupport group corresponding to the locale, so there will be font differences for a Korean DVD install vs this.
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: wontfix Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Changes (by petersen):
* status: new => closed * resolution: => wontfix
Comment:
We'll get to this for f11...
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: wontfix Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by notting):
Just one note for F11 - when we get the space back, if we decide to add OO.o, we'll have to figure out how to handle their langpacks other than via langsupport.
#15: [F-10] do not install all lang support groups to save a lot of space! ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Reporter: petersen | Owner: mclasen, walters Type: defect | Status: closed Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 10 GA Component: fedora-desktop | Resolution: wontfix Keywords: | ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Comment (by petersen):
Replying to [comment:10 notting]:
if we decide to add OO.o, we'll have to figure out how to handle their
langpacks other than via langsupport.
The total size of all the oo.o langpack rpms is about 589M so I kind of doubt we will be shipping them all in Live any time soon, but I agree pushing all langpacks for any package is not really the solution.
Similarly for kde-l10n 203M. eclipse-nls is "only" 45M. I would also like to see firefox langpacks but we need some infrastructure for langpacks first before that is viable (sellable?): I am looking into a yum plugin for lang packs...