On 9/21/18 1:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2018-09-20 at 22:35 -0400, Harold Dost wrote:
Is having this as a test criteria *that* burdensome?
Yes, frankly. Not a lot of testers even keep a DVD-RW drive and media around any more. It takes like a half hour just to write all the media for testing, then another few hours to run complete installs from them all (since optical media are *slow*).
If it's not burdensome, why does no-one except the paid RH folks ever seem to run the test? And usually at the last minute, at that?
I've had to buy three DVD-RW drives *solely for the purpose of being able to test this* (they keep dying, the things aren't terribly reliable). And I keep a spindle of media around, again, solely for the purpose of testing this, I don't use them for anything else. (In fact I've nearly run out, so if we keep this criteria, I'm gonna have to go out and blow some money on some more media I won't ever use for anything but testing this).
If people outside of the RH team ever actually ran this test, I'd be more in favour of keeping it, but I don't think any of the people speaking up about how vital this is to them have ever actually chipped in and run the test before.
Well, I know I'm an exception, I only test workstation live, I don't test every drop, and I know that no one is requiring me to, but I actually spend money on DVD media to help out with testing. Yes, I know that someday DVDs will go away and I'll have to figure out this network install thing, but for right now I use them because it's what I'm comfortable doing.
BTW does doing network install mean I have to have a server setup to serve the installs? I only ask because right now my knowledge of servers (now to set them up and maintain them) is zero and there doesn't seem to be any automatic tools to help. I got a copy of Fedora 28 server. I tried to set it up to serve some data files and failed. After a couple tries I just implemented file sharing and kept the commonly used stuff in one of the PCs Public directory.
Have a Great Day!
Pat (tablepc)