2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[Adam Williamson]

# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2023-12-11
# Time: 16:00 UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org

Greetings testers! It's time for the last QA meeting of the year!

We're going to try moving back to Fedora Chat (Matrix) for this
meeting, as the bot should be working there now. Remember, the IRC
bridge is out of commission, so you'll really have to be on Matrix to
join the meeting. You can log in with your Fedora account.

If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
email and suggest them! Thanks.

== Proposed Agenda Topics ==

1. Previous meeting follow-up
2. Fedora 40 check-in
3. Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix?
4. Test Day / community event status
5. Open floor

[Test-Announce] 2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[pmkellly]

What is the recommended client?

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 3:03 AM Adam Williamson 
wrote:
> # Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
> # Date: 2023-12-11
> # Time: 16:00 UTC
> (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
> # Location: https://matrix.to/#/#meeting:fedoraproject.org
>
> Greetings testers! It's time for the last QA meeting of the year!
>
> We're going to try moving back to Fedora Chat (Matrix) for this
> meeting, as the bot should be working there now. Remember, the IRC
> bridge is out of commission, so you'll really have to be on Matrix to
> join the meeting. You can log in with your Fedora account.
>
> If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
> email and suggest them! Thanks.
>
> == Proposed Agenda Topics ==
> Previous meeting follow-up
> Fedora 40 check-in
> Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix?
> Test Day / community event status
> Open floor
>
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[Test-Announce] 2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[Kamil Paral]

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:03 PM pmkellly  wrote:
> What is the recommended client?

I can recommend the browser-based Element [1], it works well. And I think
it's also the client recommended by default.

[1] https://app.element.io

[Test-Announce] 2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[pmkellly]

Kamil,

Thanks. I thought I could login with my fedora account. but it won't take
that do I have to change server or something else?

Thanks inadvance for your continued help.

Pat Kelly (tablepc)

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 3:49 AM Kamil Paral  wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:03 PM pmkellly  wrote:
> > What is the recommended client?
>
> I can recommend the browser-based Element [1], it works well. And I think
> it's also the client recommended by default.
> [1] https://app.element.io
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[Test-Announce] 2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[Brandon Nielsen]

My FAS account worked following the link here: 
https://chat.fedoraproject.org/

On 12/11/23 9:47 AM, pmkellly wrote:
> Kamil,
>
> Thanks. I thought I could login with my fedora account. but it won't 
> take that do I have to change server or something else?
>
> Thanks inadvance for your continued help.
>
> Pat Kelly (tablepc)
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 3:49 AM Kamil Paral <[e-mail] 
> > wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:03 PM pmkellly <[e-mail]
> <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>     What is the recommended client?
>
>
> I can recommend the browser-based Element [1], it works well. And I
> think it's also the client recommended by default.
>
> [1] https://app.element.io <https://app.element.io>
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[pmkellly]

It wants me read the stuff when I click join. I did read the stuff, but I
can find how I acknowledge I've read; so it won't let mee join.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:56 AM Brandon Nielsen via test <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> My FAS account worked following the link here:
> https://chat.fedoraproject.org/
>
> On 12/11/23 9:47 AM, pmkellly wrote:
> > Kamil,
> >
> > Thanks. I thought I could login with my fedora account. but it won't
> > take that do I have to change server or something else?
> >
> > Thanks inadvance for your continued help.
> >
> > Pat Kelly (tablepc)
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 3:49 AM Kamil Paral <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:03 PM pmkellly <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >     What is the recommended client?
> >
> >
> > I can recommend the browser-based Element [1], it works well. And I
> > think it's also the client recommended by default.
> >
> > [1] https://app.element.io <https://app.element.io>
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[Test-Announce] 2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[pmkellly]

I can read the meeting as everyone is talking, but I can't join.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 11:11 AM pmkellly  wrote:
> It wants me read the stuff when I click join. I did read the stuff, but I
> can find how I acknowledge I've read; so it won't let mee join.
>
> On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:56 AM Brandon Nielsen via test <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
> > My FAS account worked following the link here:
> > https://chat.fedoraproject.org/
> >
> > On 12/11/23 9:47 AM, pmkellly wrote:
> > > Kamil,
> > >
> > > Thanks. I thought I could login with my fedora account. but it won't
> > > take that do I have to change server or something else?
> > >
> > > Thanks inadvance for your continued help.
> > >
> > > Pat Kelly (tablepc)
> > >
> > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 3:49 AM Kamil Paral <[e-mail]
> > > > wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:03 PM pmkellly <[e-mail]
> > > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> > >
> > >     What is the recommended client?
> > >
> > >
> > > I can recommend the browser-based Element [1], it works well. And I
> > > think it's also the client recommended by default.
> > >
> > > [1] https://app.element.io <https://app.element.io>
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[pmkellly]

Okay I give up. From what I'm reading Matrix is broken both in Element and
at the browser link https://chat.fedoraproject.org/

Thanks for trying to help. I do appreciate it.
I'll be looking forward to the next try.

Have a Great Day!
Pat (tablepc)

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:56 AM Brandon Nielsen via test <
[e-mail]> wrote:
> My FAS account worked following the link here:
> https://chat.fedoraproject.org/
>
> On 12/11/23 9:47 AM, pmkellly wrote:
> > Kamil,
> >
> > Thanks. I thought I could login with my fedora account. but it won't
> > take that do I have to change server or something else?
> >
> > Thanks inadvance for your continued help.
> >
> > Pat Kelly (tablepc)
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 3:49 AM Kamil Paral <[e-mail]
> > > wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 10:03 PM pmkellly <[e-mail]
> > <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> >
> >     What is the recommended client?
> >
> >
> > I can recommend the browser-based Element [1], it works well. And I
> > think it's also the client recommended by default.
> >
> > [1] https://app.element.io <https://app.element.io>
> > --
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[Test-Announce] 2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[Adam Williamson]

On Mon, 2023-12-11 at 11:31 -0500, pmkellly wrote:
> Okay I give up. From what I'm reading Matrix is broken both in Element and
> at the browser link https://chat.fedoraproject.org/
>
> Thanks for trying to help. I do appreciate it.
> I'll be looking forward to the next try.

I'm not sure what the problem was, but I was using Element (the flatpak
version) the whole time, and I've used the web client version for some
time before that, via chat.fedoraproject.org . It definitely works.

[Test-Announce] 2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[pmkellly]

I tried everything I could think of to do. Element starts wanting you to
set an account. I did that and it was happy. The next step is to find your
friends or groups. I didn't know what the group was. I searched for
"Fedora" and I found some things, but I couldn't join any of them. are
their any services I need to enable or other settings required.

In the web browser I could login using may FAS credentials and I could see
everything that was being said, but when I clicked the join I was told to
read the documents. I did that, but their wasn't any way to acknowledge
that I read them and it wouldn't let me join. I tried a few time always
with the same result. Are their any settings I should check?

Have a Great Day!

Pat       (tablepc)

On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 10:41 PM Adam Williamson 
wrote:
> On Mon, 2023-12-11 at 11:31 -0500, pmkellly wrote:
> > Okay I give up. From what I'm reading Matrix is broken both in Element
>
> and
> > at the browser link https://chat.fedoraproject.org/
> >
> > Thanks for trying to help. I do appreciate it.
> > I'll be looking forward to the next try.
>
> I'm not sure what the problem was, but I was using Element (the flatpak
> version) the whole time, and I've used the web client version for some
> time before that, via chat.fedoraproject.org . It definitely works.
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[Kevin Fenzi]

Could it be something like
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/registration-difficulties-on-chat-fed...

TLDR: matrix is supposed to show you a 'agreement' thing when you first
login to accept, somehow for this other user it got in a weird state
where they were not able to accept it or do anything else because it
wanted them to accept first.

If thats the case, I can ask our matirx contacts to fix your account.

I suppose also you could make a new account and try with it to confirm
you get the agreement and things work with it?

kevin

[Test-Announce] 2023-12-11 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora QA Meeting

[Kamil Paral]

On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 7:26 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:
> I suppose also you could make a new account and try with it to confirm
> you get the agreement and things work with it?

Also make sure to disable any extensions like adblockers etc, which might
interfere with it.