Rawhide: USB disks if NTFS are not mounted

[Antonio M]

If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
fine.

What is the component to file a bug against??

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

Antonio M wrote:
> If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> fine.
>
> What is the component to file a bug against??

First I would start checking if the necessary packages are installed.
You can do so by running rpm -qa  | grep ntfs )
(There should be some  ntfs-3g-* ntfsprogs-* packages )

Secondly you need start being less vague and a bit more specific in your 
reporting to this list.

Tell ust more on how your are doing things as in which commands or which 
application your using
when things are not working as they are supposed to.

What application log or a run command gave the error msg "filesystem is 
not recognized" and is that the exact error msg?

JBG

[Antonio M]

2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> Antonio M wrote:
> > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> > fine.
> >
> > What is the component to file a bug against??
>
> First I would start checking if the necessary packages are installed.
> You can do so by running rpm -qa  | grep ntfs )
> (There should be some  ntfs-3g-* ntfsprogs-* packages )
>
> Secondly you need start being less vague and a bit more specific in your
> reporting to this list.
>
> Tell ust more on how your are doing things as in which commands or which
> application your using
> when things are not working as they are supposed to.
>
> What application log or a run command gave the error msg "filesystem is not
> recognized" and is that the exact error msg?
>
> JBG
>
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I connect my USB cable to my box and get a window stating:

Impossible to mount volume
Impossible to mount "Philips_External_Hard_Disk"
alternati filesystem not available..

Then I get a message:

DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a
reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.

rpm -qa  | grep ntfs
ntfs-3g-1.5222-0.2.RC.fc11.i386
ntfsprogs-2.0.0-9.fc10.i386

I cannot supply any further info, I still think that something is
broken (another cyclic bug)

["Jóhann B. Guðmundsson"]

Antonio M wrote:
> 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > Antonio M wrote:
> > > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> > > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> > > fine.
> > >
> > > What is the component to file a bug against??
> >
> > First I would start checking if the necessary packages are installed.
> > You can do so by running rpm -qa  | grep ntfs )
> > (There should be some  ntfs-3g-* ntfsprogs-* packages )
> >
> > Secondly you need start being less vague and a bit more specific in your
> > reporting to this list.
> >
> > Tell ust more on how your are doing things as in which commands or which
> > application your using
> > when things are not working as they are supposed to.
> >
> > What application log or a run command gave the error msg "filesystem is not
> > recognized" and is that the exact error msg?
> >
> > JBG
> >
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>
> I connect my USB cable to my box and get a window stating:

Still to vague which DE are you using Gnome? KDE? XFCE? LXDE?
> Impossible to mount volume
> Impossible to mount "Philips_External_Hard_Disk"
> alternati filesystem not available..

What happens when you try to mount the ntfs usb drive from the command line
( mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd* /media/[folder] *)*

Does that work?
> Then I get a message:
>
> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a
> reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
> reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
> timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
>
> rpm -qa  | grep ntfs
> ntfs-3g-1.5222-0.2.RC.fc11.i386
> ntfsprogs-2.0.0-9.fc10.i386

Install all available package encase they have split it and try again
( yum -y install ntfs-3g-* ntfsprogs-* )
> I cannot supply any further info, I still think that something is
> broken (another cyclic bug)

Not unlikely this is rawhide after all..

JBG

[Antonio M]

2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> Antonio M wrote:
> > 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > > Antonio M wrote:
> > > > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> > > > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > What is the component to file a bug against??
>
> What happens when you try to mount the ntfs usb drive from the command line
> ( mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd* /media/[folder] *)*
>
> Does that work?
> >

Yes, it does
> >
>
> Not unlikely this is rawhide after all..

for sure it is rawhide, but why so many bugs are so cyclic???
>
>

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with SprintSpeed

-----Original Message-----
From: Antonio M

Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:25:05 
To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
Subject: Re: Rawhide: USB disks if NTFS are not mounted

2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> Antonio M wrote:
> > 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > > Antonio M wrote:
> > > > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> > > > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > What is the component to file a bug against??
>
> What happens when you try to mount the ntfs usb drive from the command line
> ( mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd* /media/[folder] *)*
>
> Does that work?
> >

Yes, it does
> >
>
> Not unlikely this is rawhide after all..

for sure it is rawhide, but why so many bugs are so cyclic???
>
>

[Antonio M]

2009/1/31  :
> Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone with SprintSpeed
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio M
>
> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:25:05
> To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
> Subject: Re: Rawhide: USB disks if NTFS are not mounted
>
> 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > Antonio M wrote:
> > > 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > > > Antonio M wrote:
> > > > > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> > > > > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> > > > > fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the component to file a bug against??
> >
> > What happens when you try to mount the ntfs usb drive from the command line
> > ( mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd* /media/[folder] *)*
> >
> > Does that work?
> > >
>
> Yes, it does
> > >
> >
> > Not unlikely this is rawhide after all..
>
> for sure it is rawhide, but why so many bugs are so cyclic???
> >
> >
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
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I found that if you install the ntfs-config package and you set the
option to write on external device, my USB disk is automatically
mounted.
Big change with F10, where you connect the NTFS device and it is
mounted automatically.
Is this a choice of developers, or a misbehaviour??

[Antonio M]

2009/1/31 Antonio M :
> 2009/1/31  :
> > Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone with SprintSpeed
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Antonio M
> >
> > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:25:05
> > To: For testers of Fedora Core development releases
> > Subject: Re: Rawhide: USB disks if NTFS are not mounted
> >
> > 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > > Antonio M wrote:
> > > > 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > > > > Antonio M wrote:
> > > > > > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> > > > > > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> > > > > > fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What is the component to file a bug against??
> > >
> > > What happens when you try to mount the ntfs usb drive from the command line
> > > ( mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd* /media/[folder] *)*
> > >
> > > Does that work?
> > > >
> >
> > Yes, it does
> > > >
> > >
> > > Not unlikely this is rawhide after all..
> >
> > for sure it is rawhide, but why so many bugs are so cyclic???
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Antonio Montagnani
> > Skype : antoniomontag
> >
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>
> I found that if you install the ntfs-config package and you set the
> option to write on external device, my USB disk is automatically
> mounted.
> Big change with F10, where you connect the NTFS device and it is
> mounted automatically.
> Is this a choice of developers, or a misbehaviour??
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag

only root can mount it!!!

[Antonio M]

2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> Antonio M wrote:
> > 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > > Antonio M wrote:
> > > > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> > > > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> > > > fine.
> > > >
> > > > What is the component to file a bug against??
> > >
> > > First I would start checking if the necessary packages are installed.
> > > You can do so by running rpm -qa  | grep ntfs )
> > > (There should be some  ntfs-3g-* ntfsprogs-* packages )
> > >
> > > Secondly you need start being less vague and a bit more specific in your
> > > reporting to this list.
> > >
> > > Tell ust more on how your are doing things as in which commands or which
> > > application your using
> > > when things are not working as they are supposed to.
> > >
> > > What application log or a run command gave the error msg "filesystem is
> > > not
> > > recognized" and is that the exact error msg?
> > >
> > > JBG
> > >
> > > --
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> > > [e-mail]
> > > To unsubscribe:
> > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> >
> > I connect my USB cable to my box and get a window stating:
>
> Still to vague which DE are you using Gnome? KDE? XFCE? LXDE?
> > Impossible to mount volume
> > Impossible to mount "Philips_External_Hard_Disk"
> > alternati filesystem not available..
>
> What happens when you try to mount the ntfs usb drive from the command line
> ( mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd* /media/[folder] *)*
>
> Does that work?
> > Then I get a message:
> >
> > DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a
> > reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
> > reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
> > timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
> >
> > rpm -qa  | grep ntfs
> > ntfs-3g-1.5222-0.2.RC.fc11.i386
> > ntfsprogs-2.0.0-9.fc10.i386
>
> Install all available package encase they have split it and try again
> ( yum -y install ntfs-3g-* ntfsprogs-* )
> > I cannot supply any further info, I still think that something is
> > broken (another cyclic bug)
>
> Not unlikely this is rawhide after all..
>
> JBG
>
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yes, but what is the component to be filed against?? (not ntfs-3g, as
I reverted to a previous release and no improvement)

[Antonio M]

2009/2/1 Antonio M :
> 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > Antonio M wrote:
> > > 2009/1/30 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" :
> > > > Antonio M wrote:
> > > > > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted (saying
> > > > > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk conencted to F10 is
> > > > > fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the component to file a bug against??
> > > >
> > > > First I would start checking if the necessary packages are installed.
> > > > You can do so by running rpm -qa  | grep ntfs )
> > > > (There should be some  ntfs-3g-* ntfsprogs-* packages )
> > > >
> > > > Secondly you need start being less vague and a bit more specific in your
> > > > reporting to this list.
> > > >
> > > > Tell ust more on how your are doing things as in which commands or which
> > > > application your using
> > > > when things are not working as they are supposed to.
> > > >
> > > > What application log or a run command gave the error msg "filesystem is
> > > > not
> > > > recognized" and is that the exact error msg?
> > > >
> > > > JBG
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > fedora-test-list mailing list
> > > > [e-mail]
> > > > To unsubscribe:
> > > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
> > >
> > > I connect my USB cable to my box and get a window stating:
> >
> > Still to vague which DE are you using Gnome? KDE? XFCE? LXDE?
> > > Impossible to mount volume
> > > Impossible to mount "Philips_External_Hard_Disk"
> > > alternati filesystem not available..
> >
> > What happens when you try to mount the ntfs usb drive from the command line
> > ( mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd* /media/[folder] *)*
> >
> > Does that work?
> > > Then I get a message:
> > >
> > > DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a
> > > reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a
> > > reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
> > > timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
> > >
> > > rpm -qa  | grep ntfs
> > > ntfs-3g-1.5222-0.2.RC.fc11.i386
> > > ntfsprogs-2.0.0-9.fc10.i386
> >
> > Install all available package encase they have split it and try again
> > ( yum -y install ntfs-3g-* ntfsprogs-* )
> > > I cannot supply any further info, I still think that something is
> > > broken (another cyclic bug)
> >
> > Not unlikely this is rawhide after all..
> >
> > JBG
> >
> > --
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> > To unsubscribe:
> > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
>
> yes, but what is the component to be filed against?? (not ntfs-3g, as
> I reverted to a previous release and no improvement)
>
> --
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag

and I rebooted the machine and I gave  alook to fstab & mtab with no
external device attached:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>

tmpfs	/dev/shm	tmpfs	defaults	0	0
devpts	/dev/pts	devpts	gid=5,mode=620	0	0
sysfs	/sys	sysfs	defaults	0	0
proc	/proc	proc	defaults	0	0
/dev/dm-0	/	ext3	defaults	1	1
/dev/sda1	/boot	ext3	defaults	1	2
/dev/sdb1	/media/Philips_External_Hard_Disk	ntfs-3g	defaults,locale=it_IT.UTF-8	0	0
/dev/dm-1	swap	swap	defaults	0	0

mtab

/dev/dm-0 / ext3 rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/sda1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0
none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
sunrpc /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs rpc_pipefs rw 0 0
nfsd /proc/fs/nfsd nfsd rw 0 0
gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/antonio/.gvfs fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon
rw,nosuid,nodev,user=antonio 0 0

now when I insert an USB stick I can't mount it and my system says
that it not possible to mount it as only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on
/media/Philips_External_Hard_Disk (taht is not connected)
An additional USB is mounted as sdc1

/dev/dm-0 / ext3 rw 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,gid=5,mode=620 0 0
tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
/dev/sda1 /boot ext3 rw 0 0
none /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc binfmt_misc rw 0 0
sunrpc /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs rpc_pipefs rw 0 0
nfsd /proc/fs/nfsd nfsd rw 0 0
gvfs-fuse-daemon /home/antonio/.gvfs fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon
rw,nosuid,nodev,user=antonio 0 0
/dev/sdc1 /media/disk vfat
rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,shortname=lower,uid=500 0 0

Is gvfs-fuse the component to be filed against???

[Michal Jaegermann]

On Sun, Feb 01, 2009 at 02:39:54PM +0100, Antonio M wrote:
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
>
> tmpfs	/dev/shm	tmpfs	defaults	0	0
> devpts	/dev/pts	devpts	gid=5,mode=620	0	0
> sysfs	/sys	sysfs	defaults	0	0
> proc	/proc	proc	defaults	0	0
> /dev/dm-0	/	ext3	defaults	1	1
> /dev/sda1	/boot	ext3	defaults	1	2
> /dev/sdb1	/media/Philips_External_Hard_Disk	ntfs-3g	defaults,locale=it_IT.UTF-8	0	0
> /dev/dm-1	swap	swap	defaults	0	0

Here you say "mount /dev/sdb1 on a mount point 
/media/Philips_External_Hard_Disk when file systems are mounted in a
startup sequence".  For a removable at least 'noauto' is missing
there.
> now when I insert an USB stick I can't mount it and my system says
> that it not possible to mount it as only root can mount /dev/sdb1 on
> /media/Philips_External_Hard_Disk

That is what you are saying above with "defaults".
> (taht is not connected)
> An additional USB is mounted as sdc1

Trying to "recycle" mount points below /media you are getting into a
food-fight with hal and gnome-mount.  Regardless of possible
outcomes this is surely unhealthy.  You should really look at what
'man gnome-mount' has to say (and that may include "SEE ALSO"
section).  At least some information is there.

If your goal is to pass automatically additional options to mount
then with nfts-3g you are in luck.  You can use for that a
/system/storage/default_options/ntfs-3g gconf key.

It looks like that your wounds are self-inflicted.

Michal

[Antonio Olivares]

--- On Fri, 1/30/09, Antonio M  wrote:
> From: Antonio M 
> Subject: Rawhide: USB disks if NTFS are not mounted
> To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
> Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 7:53 AM
> If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted
> (saying
> that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk
> conencted to F10 is
> fine.
>
> What is the component to file a bug against??

probably hal, but more information might be needed, or also the version of ntfs-3g installed, that could also be the culprit?
> -- 
> Antonio Montagnani
> Skype : antoniomontag
>
> --

Regards,

Antonio

[Antonio M]

2009/1/30 Antonio Olivares :
> --- On Fri, 1/30/09, Antonio M  wrote:
> > From: Antonio M 
> > Subject: Rawhide: USB disks if NTFS are not mounted
> > To: "For testers of Fedora Core development releases" 
> > Date: Friday, January 30, 2009, 7:53 AM
> > If I connect a NTFS USB disk to my rawhide it is not mounted
> > (saying
> > that filesystem is not recognized) while same disk
> > conencted to F10 is
> > fine.
> >
> > What is the component to file a bug against??
>
> probably hal, but more information might be needed, or also the version of ntfs-3g installed, that could also be the culprit?
> > --
> > Antonio Montagnani
> > Skype : antoniomontag
> >
> > --
>
> Regards,
>
> Antonio
>
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Bug 483152 -  removable USB devices are not automatically mounted

So bug is for both F10 & F11Rawhide.