Pretty funny stuff. :-) A little paranoid and deluded but still funny stuff.
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 08:21 +0800, joelbryan wrote:
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 11:31 +1100, Aaron Scott wrote:
Pretty funny stuff. :-) A little paranoid and deluded but still funny stuff.
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 08:21 +0800, joelbryan wrote:
Worse than paranoid, this is classic projection--accusing others of your own sins. I have installed Firefox on clients' machines running Windows. It installs well, and my clients love it. I'm recommending it to all my clients, even when I can't persuade them to migrate to Linux.
joelbryan wrote:
This is disgusting and annoying. The fact that he doesn't like that firefox download is mirrored says nothing about the quality of the app.
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 11:21:30PM -0600, Cam Desautels wrote:
This is disgusting and annoying. The fact that he doesn't like that firefox download is mirrored says nothing about the quality of the app.
Seems like a reasonable point, though -- I doubt many people who download firefox from mirrors check to make sure the binary isn't trojaned. That could bite us sometime, and then it'd pretty much be Microsoft lauging.
But, since the _Fedora_ firefox package is signed, it doesn't seem to have have much to do with us here. :)
But, since the _Fedora_ firefox package is signed, it doesn't seem to have have much to do with us here. :)
But what about the plugins that Firefox offers to download?
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But, since the _Fedora_ firefox package is signed, it doesn't seem to have have much to do with us here. :)
But what about the plugins that Firefox offers to download?
-Steve Grubb
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On Fri, Dec 24, 2004 at 09:31:14AM -0800, Steve G wrote:
But, since the _Fedora_ firefox package is signed, it doesn't seem to have have much to do with us here. :)
But what about the plugins that Firefox offers to download?
Having some sort of signing on those would be a good idea. For now, I just make sure I'm getting 'em from a trusted site.
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 11:21:30PM -0600, Cam Desautels wrote:
This is disgusting and annoying. The fact that he doesn't like that firefox download is mirrored says nothing about the quality of the app.
Seems like a reasonable point, though -- I doubt many people who download firefox from mirrors check to make sure the binary isn't trojaned. That could bite us sometime, and then it'd pretty much be Microsoft lauging.
True, but the tools are there. The checksums are available. If it bites someone in the ass, it is only their fault for being lazy and not utilizing the available tools.
But my point really was that even if the downloading system isn't secure -- and I honestly don't know if it is or not, the mirrors could automatically and periodically be md5ed -- does not mean that the application itself is insecure. Saying so is just irresponsibly spreading FUD.
But FUD is an integral part of the MS marketing strategy.
On Fri, 2004-12-24 at 11:42 -0600, Cam Desautels wrote:
Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 11:21:30PM -0600, Cam Desautels wrote:
This is disgusting and annoying. The fact that he doesn't like that firefox download is mirrored says nothing about the quality of the app.
Seems like a reasonable point, though -- I doubt many people who download firefox from mirrors check to make sure the binary isn't trojaned. That could bite us sometime, and then it'd pretty much be Microsoft lauging.
True, but the tools are there. The checksums are available. If it bites someone in the ass, it is only their fault for being lazy and not utilizing the available tools.
All of this thread is offtopic.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PostIsOffTopic
Take it somewhere else if you want to talk about this.
-sv
On Fri, 2004-24-12 at 08:21 +0800, joelbryan wrote:
Who cares...
People who are too stupid to know how crappy the security is in all Microsoft products deserve to be afflicted with all the violations they get.
The guy who wrote the article is pretty much the standard looser that Microsoft gets to write this kind of drivel.
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