On Wed, 2003-10-29 at 11:16, Josh McKenna wrote:
if I do an up2date -u --nosig everything works fine... sometimes... the exception seems to be when a new package is available for a package I have installed, but the new package has a new dependency that I have NOT met previously...
I think I just described my fix to someone else on the list, but in case you missed it... I keep a local FTP/HTTP mirror of both the base distro (severn3/FC-0.95) and rawhide. Rawhide gets updated via rsync roughly nightly. I use the same cron job as the rsync update to also do a yum-arch to rewrite the yum repo headers. (The yum headers for the base distro obviously only needed to be written once since they don't change.)
My clients use yum to point to both of those sources, "base" and "rawhide". As a result, up2date works perfectly here -- well, at least as far as this issue goes.
p.s. - is there gonna be a channel on RHN for Fedora Core when the general release is done? I blew $500 of my employers money a month ago to buy enterprise entitlements for RH9, and it feels like I've wasted the money if I can't keep them up on the latest release...
I know there are Red Hat employees on this list, but to save their valuable time, and not to assume any kind of mantle, I think the answer to your question is probably a resounding "no." RHN is a paid service and RH is pretty smart to conserve their bandwidth for their paying customers. FC customers will largely be the "freebie" base. There's no reason why their current rawhide support has to stop (i.e. the yum repo[s]), but I would imagine keeping rawhide out of RHN allows them to do some fairly fancy netfilter footwork, to ensure that RHN customers always trump us freeloaders. (No bitterness intended, I fully agree with them if this is the case.)
Remember that your entitlements still get you patch support and enterprise-type management options that you simply don't have with Fedora Core. "Keeping [systems] up on the latest release" is not why you pay for entitlements; they give you support and/or management options you don't have otherwise.
I know they want me to buy RHEL, but I just can justify that for mail gateways and dns servers...
Then Fedora Core, along with the increasing number of yum/apt repositories, might serve you fine. Keep in mind the point of the Fedora Project, and its origins -- over time, it's probably reasonable to think Fedora Core relases could happen even faster than those under the Red Hat Linux banner. A review of the project site at http://fedora.redhat.com might be useful.
Of course, only you can weigh the security repercussions of your decisions on your company's IT infrastructure. If you feel comfortable, given its mission and timetables, with using Fedora Core (or an older EOL Red Hat Linux product) in the capacities you describe, that's your prerogative. Remember that in terms of "free-of-cost" distros, Fedora Core and Red Hat Linux 9 are only two of many alternatives for someone who is a skilled and security-educated administrator.
The entire foregoing is my $0.02 and is subject to your personal rate of exchange. :-)
maybe they could add a rawhide channel to RHN?
See above, best of luck, and cheers.