Erik Harrison wrote:
On 9/3/06, Paul Michael Reilly pmr@pajato.com wrote:
I bit the bullet and installed Xfce 4.4 beta 2 (xfce4-4.3.90.2-installer.bin) on my rawhide system. I installed it to /usr/local thinking that putting /usr/local/bin on my PATH variable before /usr/bin would cause the beta2 executables to run before any yum installed (fedora-extras-development.repo) Xfce 4.2 executables (/usr/bin) so my first question is: was/is this wishful thinking (that I could have both 4.4 beta 2 and 4.2 installed to the same system and not encounter serious issues)?
Officially I believe having multiple installs is unsupported. Some of us devs do it (I do not) and in the past, attempts have lead to major library conflicts
No problem. I realize full well that I am pursuing a high risk course. FWIW I faced the choice of using the supported (Fedora) Xfce 4.2 (getting real stale), using a developer repo that a RedHat dude created with Xfce 4.4 beta 1 or biting the bullet and installing Xfce 4.4 beta 2. The latter was most appealing to me even though it is fraught with risk.
I am running a dual head configuration (individual displays rather than xinerama). There are two issues that pop up immediately that I need to solve:
- there is a bar across the top of both displays that appears to be
an orphaned panel, i.e. I cannot get rid of it (the original panel that was at the top has been moved to the bottom of screen 0 and works just fine there.
I was able to solve this problem. I killed two taskbar processes, saved and then restarted the session. They were gone. This says to me that Xfce 4.2 cruft was stored in the saved session.
- I cannot seem to use the settings->panel manager dialog to
accomplish much with the second display. When I click on the box representing the second display the dialog disappears along with all the applications running in the fist display. I will need to repeat this a few more times before I can accurately describe what is really going on, so this description represents my first take.
I'm not sure what to tell you here. I don't believe any of the primary devs use Xinerama so support has always been based on heavy reliance on user testing. So ordinarily I'd encourage you to file some detailed bug reports. But since you have two versions of Xfce installed....
which means it will probably be a waste of my time, so I will hold off until Fedora supports xfce 4.4 in rawhide, something I'm not expecting anytime soon. Hopefully by that time I will have pulled out enough arrows to add value to that discussion/process. :-)
-pmr
"Paul" == Paul Michael Reilly pmr@pajato.com writes:
Paul> Erik Harrison wrote:
On 9/3/06, Paul Michael Reilly pmr@pajato.com wrote:
I bit the bullet and installed Xfce 4.4 beta 2 (xfce4-4.3.90.2-installer.bin) on my rawhide system. I installed it to /usr/local thinking that putting /usr/local/bin on my PATH variable before /usr/bin would cause the beta2 executables to run before any yum installed (fedora-extras-development.repo) Xfce 4.2 executables (/usr/bin) so my first question is: was/is this wishful thinking (that I could have both 4.4 beta 2 and 4.2 installed to the same system and not encounter serious issues)?
Officially I believe having multiple installs is unsupported. Some of us devs do it (I do not) and in the past, attempts have lead to major library conflicts
Paul> No problem. I realize full well that I am pursuing a high risk Paul> course. FWIW I faced the choice of using the supported (Fedora) Paul> Xfce 4.2 (getting real stale), using a developer repo that a Paul> RedHat dude created with Xfce 4.4 beta 1 or biting the bullet Paul> and installing Xfce 4.4 beta 2. The latter was most appealing Paul> to me even though it is fraught with risk.
You might be refering to my Xfce4.4 beta repository here. I don't work for RedHat, I do maintain Xfce in fedora extras however. ;)
I unfortunately choose 'xfce-4.4b1' in the repo name when I created it, but it does have the latest b2 packages in it. I expect to also be packaging up the rc1 packages as they come out later today (hopefully).
I would appreciate any feedback on the beta packages...
I am running a dual head configuration (individual displays rather than xinerama). There are two issues that pop up immediately that I need to solve:
- there is a bar across the top of both displays that appears to
be an orphaned panel, i.e. I cannot get rid of it (the original panel that was at the top has been moved to the bottom of screen 0 and works just fine there.
Paul> I was able to solve this problem. I killed two taskbar Paul> processes, saved and then restarted the session. They were Paul> gone. This says to me that Xfce 4.2 cruft was stored in the Paul> saved session.
Yeah. :(
- I cannot seem to use the settings->panel manager dialog to
accomplish much with the second display. When I click on the box representing the second display the dialog disappears along with all the applications running in the fist display. I will need to repeat this a few more times before I can accurately describe what is really going on, so this description represents my first take.
I'm not sure what to tell you here. I don't believe any of the primary devs use Xinerama so support has always been based on heavy reliance on user testing. So ordinarily I'd encourage you to file some detailed bug reports. But since you have two versions of Xfce installed....
Paul> which means it will probably be a waste of my time, so I will Paul> hold off until Fedora supports xfce 4.4 in rawhide, something Paul> I'm not expecting anytime soon. Hopefully by that time I will Paul> have pulled out enough arrows to add value to that Paul> discussion/process. :-)
I also don't have any Xinerama setups, so not sure I can assis here either.
I haven't updated Xfce in rawhide yet as the current release is 4.4beta2. I don't want to put in a beta and have that be released with fc6. If the rc1 or rc2 are pretty stable and in time, I might be able to get it in before fc6 goes out...
FWIW, I am running devel on my laptop and using the beta2 rpms from my repository, and have only run into a few snags.
Paul> -pmr
kevin