I've built test packages of evolution 1.5.1. I'm going to wait a few days before throwing them at the world of rawhide, but have gone ahead and put them up as a yum repository. They _should_ work fine on either FC1 or the current development tree but are mostly being targeted for the development tree. I'll warn that there are bugs, migration of address book stuff isn't there right now and there are probably other problems, but it does seem to basically work and it hasn't eaten my mail yet :-)
To use, add something like the following to your /etc/yum.conf [evolution] name=Evolution Devel Snaps baseurl=http://people.redhat.com/katzj/evolution/
Bugs regarding packaging can be filed at https://bugzilla.redhat.com (make sure to mention that it's the 1.5 packages, exact version preferably). Functionality bugs should be filed at http://bugzilla. ximian.com
Cheers,
Jeremy
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 09:19 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
I've built test packages of evolution 1.5.1. I'm going to wait a few days before throwing them at the world of rawhide, but have gone ahead and put them up as a yum repository. They _should_ work fine on either FC1 or the current development tree but are mostly being targeted for the development tree. I'll warn that there are bugs, migration of address book stuff isn't there right now and there are probably other problems, but it does seem to basically work and it hasn't eaten my mail yet :-)
Is there a way to migrate the address book manually? Yes I did upgrade and noticed that the directories did change (~/.evo instead of ~/evo and some paths changed and such). Yes there are seg faults at random, so will have to see how it works over time to determine if enough to keep or downgrade again.
Also, is there a way to rearrange my folders instead of how they are setup now?
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 09:34 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
Is there a way to migrate the address book manually? Yes I did upgrade and noticed that the directories did change (~/.evo instead of ~/evo and some paths changed and such).
This might do it.. cp ~/evolution/local/Contacts/addressbook* ~/.evolution/addressbook/ local/OnThisComputer/Personal
Also, is there a way to rearrange my folders instead of how they are setup now?
Rearrange them? How so?
Jeremy
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:59:15AM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 09:34 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
Is there a way to migrate the address book manually? Yes I did upgrade and noticed that the directories did change (~/.evo instead of ~/evo and some paths changed and such).
This might do it.. cp ~/evolution/local/Contacts/addressbook* ~/.evolution/addressbook/ local/OnThisComputer/Personal
Just an FYI for the mailing list archives, this worked perfectly for migrating my addressbook.
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 09:03, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:59:15AM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 09:34 -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
Is there a way to migrate the address book manually? Yes I did upgrade and noticed that the directories did change (~/.evo instead of ~/evo and some paths changed and such).
This might do it.. cp ~/evolution/local/Contacts/addressbook* ~/.evolution/addressbook/ local/OnThisComputer/Personal
Just an FYI for the mailing list archives, this worked perfectly for migrating my addressbook.
I never did get it working (well only tried once to copy, but had other problems) and sense have downgraded back to 1.4. I was getting too many segfaults/crashes to use as normal everyday. I hated that when my email folders (inbox, newly created folders and subfolders, etc..) got merged, that while in 1.4 they are alphabetical, they were randomly placed in 1.5 and didn't see a way to arrange them in any order (that or the way I was trying via GUI was broke).
I think there were a few other problems but can't think of them at the moment.
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 09:52:37AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
I never did get it working (well only tried once to copy, but had other problems) and sense have downgraded back to 1.4. I was getting too many segfaults/crashes to use as normal everyday.
*nod* I'm giving it another day, but I suspect I'll be downgrading. The problem I'm having is that message counts aren't getting displayed on each folder (I have a TON of incoming email folders, ala procmail); I only got it to display the messages counts once, and that appears to have been a fluke.
I've also seen problems with it not exiting when the main window goes away on an exit; I expect a few processes to stick around (1.4 had a couple that always remained running), but I was finding 16-20 "evolution" processes still happily chugging away. (I'd REALLY love "killev" to be included for cases like that...;-)
And yeah, I've been able to coax it into crashing quite a bit so far.
I hated that when my email folders (inbox, newly created folders and subfolders, etc..) got merged, that while in 1.4 they are alphabetical, they were randomly placed in 1.5 and didn't see a way to arrange them in any order (that or the way I was trying via GUI was broke).
*nod* I can live with the ordering, as long as it's "stable" (ie. doesn't keep changing out from under me each time I hit the IMAP server), but I can't see any rhyme or reason to the ordering either.
Still, I'm going to give it a little bit longer, see if anything else major pops up.
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
I've also seen problems with it not exiting when the main window goes away on an exit; I expect a few processes to stick around (1.4 had a couple that always remained running), but I was finding 16-20 "evolution" processes still happily chugging away. (I'd REALLY love "killev" to be included for cases like that...;-)
Fortunately, it is.
/usr/libexec/evolution/1.4/killev
The fact that it's still necessary to include it is one reason evolution is not my primary MUA ;-)
later, chris
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 09:56, Chris Ricker wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
I've also seen problems with it not exiting when the main window goes away on an exit; I expect a few processes to stick around (1.4 had a couple that always remained running), but I was finding 16-20 "evolution" processes still happily chugging away. (I'd REALLY love "killev" to be included for cases like that...;-)
Fortunately, it is.
/usr/libexec/evolution/1.4/killev
The fact that it's still necessary to include it is one reason evolution is not my primary MUA ;-)
killev is deprecated. The recommended command is:
evolution --force-shutdown
BTW, I use Evo 1.4.5 about 10 hours a day with *lots* of email. I only have to use that command about twice a month. The usual culprit is when there is a network connectivity issue (Comcast grrrrr), Evo can block for awhile and I don't have the patience to wait.
Dax Kelson Guru Labs
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 10:37 -0600, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
*nod* I'm giving it another day, but I suspect I'll be downgrading. The problem I'm having is that message counts aren't getting displayed on each folder (I have a TON of incoming email folders, ala procmail); I only got it to display the messages counts once, and that appears to have been a fluke
I see this sporadically as well... I need to actually file it since I haven't had a chance to look at it more closely yet.
I've also seen problems with it not exiting when the main window goes away on an exit; I expect a few processes to stick around (1.4 had a couple that always remained running), but I was finding 16-20 "evolution" processes still happily chugging away. (I'd REALLY love "killev" to be included for cases like that...;-)
Hmmm, haven't seen this one. Note that evolution --force-shutdown does the same thing killev used to. If you see this, you might want to strace/gdb one of the remaining processes and see what it's doing.
I hated that when my email folders (inbox, newly created folders and subfolders, etc..) got merged, that while in 1.4 they are alphabetical, they were randomly placed in 1.5 and didn't see a way to arrange them in any order (that or the way I was trying via GUI was broke).
*nod* I can live with the ordering, as long as it's "stable" (ie. doesn't keep changing out from under me each time I hit the IMAP server), but I can't see any rhyme or reason to the ordering either.
The ordering is alphabetical for me but with INBOX always first. I wonder if it's just using the order given back by the IMAP server. What server are you using it against?
Cheers,
Jeremy
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 12:16:24PM -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
Hmmm, haven't seen this one. Note that evolution --force-shutdown does the same thing killev used to. If you see this, you might want to strace/gdb one of the remaining processes and see what it's doing.
Didn't know about the --force-shutdown thing (or where killev was hiding), good to keep in mind. Thanks!
If I can get it to do it again, I'll open a bug report with whatever info I can get out of it. (Shouldn't be very hard; it was fairly repeatable last night.)
The ordering is alphabetical for me but with INBOX always first. I wonder if it's just using the order given back by the IMAP server. What server are you using it against?
Courier-imap. INBOX is always first, and a "feature" of courier's mailbox hierarchy places all boxes under that, in a semi-random order. I'd lean toward believing the order is what courier is supplying.
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 09:35, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
Courier-imap. INBOX is always first, and a "feature" of courier's mailbox hierarchy places all boxes under that, in a semi-random order. I'd lean toward believing the order is what courier is supplying.
I use courier-imap as well, and I test evolution from time to time to remind myself why I don't use it (missing some features I require), but I get INBOX at the top, and all my folders listed as subfolders of inbox, in alphabetical order. I have not tried Jeremy's latest test of evolution though, so the test version might be doing something funky.
On Fri, 2004-01-09 at 09:59, Jesse Keating wrote:
I use courier-imap as well, and I test evolution from time to time to remind myself why I don't use it (missing some features I require), but I get INBOX at the top, and all my folders listed as subfolders of inbox, in alphabetical order. I have not tried Jeremy's latest test of evolution though, so the test version might be doing something funky.
Don't know if this is related to using POP, but maybe they are only alphabetical due to a *sub*folder of Inbox instead of *Main* folders under/beside Inbox?
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 10:35, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
Courier-imap. INBOX is always first, and a "feature" of courier's mailbox hierarchy places all boxes under that, in a semi-random order. I'd lean toward believing the order is what courier is supplying.
There is some issue with Evo's namespace support. Interesting, Evolution 1.0.x worked with courier-imap just fine. The INBOX was listed first and the other folders were peers, not sub-folders.
I preferred this.
BTW, ThunderBird and MS Outlook Express get it correct (like Evo 1.0.x).
Dax Kelson Guru Labs
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 11:16, Jeremy Katz wrote:
On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 10:37 -0600, Edward S. Marshall wrote:
I've also seen problems with it not exiting when the main window goes away on an exit; I expect a few processes to stick around (1.4 had a couple that always remained running), but I was finding 16-20 "evolution" processes still happily chugging away. (I'd REALLY love "killev" to be included for cases like that...;-)
Hmmm, haven't seen this one. Note that evolution --force-shutdown does the same thing killev used to. If you see this, you might want to strace/gdb one of the remaining processes and see what it's doing.
I did see the processes still around after an exit or at least a forced shutdown/segfault. It wouldn't start up again until I killed the processes running first.
*nod* I can live with the ordering, as long as it's "stable" (ie. doesn't keep changing out from under me each time I hit the IMAP server), but I can't see any rhyme or reason to the ordering either.
The ordering is alphabetical for me but with INBOX always first. I wonder if it's just using the order given back by the IMAP server. What server are you using it against?
I was doing mine against POP3 so it took the folders from the lower version and I guess copied them. But mine were not alphabetical (yes Inbox was at the top) after Inbox, as they were randomly placed down the list.
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