The desktop icon for my pen-drive has 'Safely Remove' on the menu, but selecting that doesn't umount it, and there is no other entry to do so. Are others seeing the same?
Anne
On Friday 28 July 2006 21:39, Anne Wilson wrote:
The desktop icon for my pen-drive has 'Safely Remove' on the menu, but selecting that doesn't umount it, and there is no other entry to do so. Are others seeing the same?
Anne
I'm using FC5 with KDE.
Until recently "Safely Remove" used to leave the same i.e. the mounted icon on the desktop, but after "Safely Remove" was used the mount item appeared in the right click menu, so I assumed that it was just the icon that wasn't getting updated.
When I tried it just now, the icon has been fixed so as far as I can tell it's working.
Dave Fletcher
On Friday 28 July 2006 22:03, David Fletcher wrote:
On Friday 28 July 2006 21:39, Anne Wilson wrote:
The desktop icon for my pen-drive has 'Safely Remove' on the menu, but selecting that doesn't umount it, and there is no other entry to do so. Are others seeing the same?
Anne
I'm using FC5 with KDE.
This is FC6test1 with kde, fully updated.
Until recently "Safely Remove" used to leave the same i.e. the mounted icon on the desktop, but after "Safely Remove" was used the mount item appeared in the right click menu, so I assumed that it was just the icon that wasn't getting updated.
When I tried it just now, the icon has been fixed so as far as I can tell it's working.
Selecting 'Safely Remove' starts lots of flickering on the pen-drive and the laptop, but the icon remains, no mount or umount appears on the right-click menu, and the drive can be opened in konqueror from the right-click menu - obviously not umounted.
I need to know whether others see this, as I don't want to bugzilla if it's specific to my system.
Anne
On 7/29/06, Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Selecting 'Safely Remove' starts lots of flickering on the pen-drive and the laptop, but the icon remains, no mount or umount appears on the right-click menu, and the drive can be opened in konqueror from the right-click menu - obviously not umounted.
Sounds like a feature to me. Flash devices are mounted 'async' by default, so data written to them gets stored in the kernel for a short amount of time before 'syncing' and writing to the device; this way series of changes can be combined into single writes, saving the finite write cycles on the device. The 'Safely Remove' option probably pushes any remaining changes out of the kernel onto the device, and once there is no write activity remaining it is quite safe to remove the device even though it's still mounted.
n0dalus.
On Saturday 29 July 2006 11:11, n0dalus wrote:
On 7/29/06, Anne Wilson cannewilson@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
Selecting 'Safely Remove' starts lots of flickering on the pen-drive and the laptop, but the icon remains, no mount or umount appears on the right-click menu, and the drive can be opened in konqueror from the right-click menu - obviously not umounted.
Sounds like a feature to me. Flash devices are mounted 'async' by default, so data written to them gets stored in the kernel for a short amount of time before 'syncing' and writing to the device; this way series of changes can be combined into single writes, saving the finite write cycles on the device. The 'Safely Remove' option probably pushes any remaining changes out of the kernel onto the device, and once there is no write activity remaining it is quite safe to remove the device even though it's still mounted.
I'm not happy with that idea. IAUI, 'Safely Remove' should flush the cache (I presume that's the activity seen) and then umount it. It certainly does on my FC4 boxes. I do not like the idea of wrenching a mounted device, and the only other alternative is to wait until the laptop is shutdown.
Anne
On Friday 28 July 2006 22:03, David Fletcher wrote:
On Friday 28 July 2006 21:39, Anne Wilson wrote:
The desktop icon for my pen-drive has 'Safely Remove' on the menu, but selecting that doesn't umount it, and there is no other entry to do so. Are others seeing the same?
Anne
I'm using FC5 with KDE.
Until recently "Safely Remove" used to leave the same i.e. the mounted icon on the desktop, but after "Safely Remove" was used the mount item appeared in the right click menu, so I assumed that it was just the icon that wasn't getting updated.
When I tried it just now, the icon has been fixed so as far as I can tell it's working.
Dave Fletcher
Correction - the "Mounted" icon still doesn't get changed when I use a smart media card with my Zio card reader, but the mount command disappears when the device is mounted and reappears after using "safely remove"
The device that does appear to work properly is a ByteStor USB flash memory device.
Dave
On Saturday 29 July 2006 12:55, David Fletcher wrote:
On Friday 28 July 2006 22:03, David Fletcher wrote:
On Friday 28 July 2006 21:39, Anne Wilson wrote:
The desktop icon for my pen-drive has 'Safely Remove' on the menu, but selecting that doesn't umount it, and there is no other entry to do so. Are others seeing the same?
Anne
I'm using FC5 with KDE.
Until recently "Safely Remove" used to leave the same i.e. the mounted icon on the desktop, but after "Safely Remove" was used the mount item appeared in the right click menu, so I assumed that it was just the icon that wasn't getting updated.
When I tried it just now, the icon has been fixed so as far as I can tell it's working.
Dave Fletcher
Correction - the "Mounted" icon still doesn't get changed when I use a smart media card with my Zio card reader, but the mount command disappears when the device is mounted and reappears after using "safely remove"
The device that does appear to work properly is a ByteStor USB flash memory device.
That got me curious. The pen-drive I was using is an Acer, but I have a Disgo as well, so I tried that. Unfortunately it also mounts, but does not umount from Safely Remove.
Anne
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