Hi all,
I've been encountering a strange issue I have no idea how to handle -- my laptop hard freezes about an half an hour after boot, irrespective of what am I doing (first I was doing something in midori, second I was listening to some song in rhythmbox, third I wasn't even present). Screen freezes, one cannot ping the machine, sound, if any is playing at the time of freeze, plays an infinite loop.
Strange thing is, when I was home it didn't froze for 3 straight days. It does not freeze on F12 either. The only difference is that at the place where it freezes I also have external USB HDD, USB keyboard and USB wireless mouse connected and use wired connection instead of wireless.
Anyone one having similar issues? Any idea how to debug this? How to produce some usable info in order to fill a bug?
Thanks, Martin
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On 09/12/2010 03:36 PM, Martin Sourada wrote:
Anyone one having similar issues? Any idea how to debug this? How to produce some usable info in order to fill a bug?
Thanks, Martin
There is some information about troubleshooting this type of issue here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_kernel_problems#Diagnosing_.22My_machi...
Regards.
Jeff Raber IRC: jraber@freenode
On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 22:36 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
Hi all,
I've been encountering a strange issue I have no idea how to handle -- my laptop hard freezes about an half an hour after boot, irrespective of what am I doing (first I was doing something in midori, second I was listening to some song in rhythmbox, third I wasn't even present). Screen freezes, one cannot ping the machine, sound, if any is playing at the time of freeze, plays an infinite loop.
Strange thing is, when I was home it didn't froze for 3 straight days. It does not freeze on F12 either. The only difference is that at the place where it freezes I also have external USB HDD, USB keyboard and USB wireless mouse connected and use wired connection instead of wireless.
Anyone one having similar issues? Any idea how to debug this? How to produce some usable info in order to fill a bug?
Check kernel logs and X logs after rebooting, see if there's crash notifications in either. (You'll want to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old rather than Xorg.0.log). What's the gfx card?
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.comwrote:
Check kernel logs and X logs after rebooting, see if there's crash notifications in either. (You'll want to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old rather than Xorg.0.log). What's the gfx card?
Thanks, I'll check that out, though I doubt that there'll be anything... I have intel 945. Another interesting thing is, I logged into a different account (which I use to testing/playing around) that currently has gnome-shell (as opposed to composited metacity) and so far after more than an hour no freeze. I'll see if it's still running tomorrow.
Martin
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 00:07 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
Check kernel logs and X logs after rebooting, see if there's crash notifications in either. (You'll want to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old rather than Xorg.0.log). What's the gfx card?
Thanks, I'll check that out, though I doubt that there'll be anything... I have intel 945. Another interesting thing is, I logged into a different account (which I use to testing/playing around) that currently has gnome-shell (as opposed to composited metacity) and so far after more than an hour no freeze. I'll see if it's still running tomorrow.
Ok, that wasn't it. It froze in gnome-shell as well. In the exactly same moment when external USB HDD was waking up (initiated by ls -l on some folder in it). So over night I run full fsck on it. No errors reported, but right now it seems to work (at least I wasn't able to reproduce the freeze in single user mode, I'll see if it appears again in init 5).
/var/log/Xorg.0.log* and /var/log/messages show no traces about the freeze.
Martin
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Martin Sourada martin.sourada@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 00:07 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
Check kernel logs and X logs after rebooting, see if there's crash notifications in either. (You'll want to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old rather than Xorg.0.log). What's the gfx card? Thanks, I'll check that out, though I doubt that there'll be anything... I have intel 945. Another interesting thing is, I logged into a different account (which I use to testing/playing around) that currently has gnome-shell (as opposed to composited metacity) and so far after more than an hour no freeze. I'll see if it's still running tomorrow.
Ok, that wasn't it. It froze in gnome-shell as well. In the exactly same moment when external USB HDD was waking up (initiated by ls -l on some folder in it). So over night I run full fsck on it. No errors reported, but right now it seems to work (at least I wasn't able to reproduce the freeze in single user mode, I'll see if it appears again in init 5).
/var/log/Xorg.0.log* and /var/log/messages show no traces about the freeze.
So it appeared again, after several hours of usage (so it's much better than it initially was), this time in gnome-screensaver. The USB drive appeared to be running, so I guess kernel was frozen as well.
Martin
PS: Please accept my appology if anyone recieved the above quoted mail multiple times. Evolution is crashing on me when sending emails so the mail stays in outbox so I though it had never went out, but I've been notified that's it had been sent 8 times or so already...
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 14:17 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Martin Sourada martin.sourada@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 00:07 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
Check kernel logs and X logs after rebooting, see if there's crash notifications in either. (You'll want to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old rather than Xorg.0.log). What's the gfx card?
Thanks, I'll check that out, though I doubt that there'll be anything... I have intel 945. Another interesting thing is, I logged into a different account (which I use to testing/playing around) that currently has gnome-shell (as opposed to composited metacity) and so far after more than an hour no freeze. I'll see if it's still running tomorrow.
Ok, that wasn't it. It froze in gnome-shell as well. In the exactly same moment when external USB HDD was waking up (initiated by ls -l on some folder in it). So over night I run full fsck on it. No errors reported, but right now it seems to work (at least I wasn't able to reproduce the freeze in single user mode, I'll see if it appears again in init 5).
/var/log/Xorg.0.log* and /var/log/messages show no traces about the freeze.
So it appeared again, after several hours of usage (so it's much better than it initially was), this time in gnome-screensaver. The USB drive appeared to be running, so I guess kernel was frozen as well.
So, after slowly eliminating possible causes, I came to (uncertain) conclusion that f14 kernel does not like my network card (i.e. unless I missed something, the only time I wasn't able to reproduce this yet is without network cable plugged in). It also seems the freezes have got a lot less frequent (but that might be purely coincidental).
Kernel: kernel-2.6.35.4-28.fc14.i686
Network card: 06:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
Martin
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 16:02 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Tue, 2010-09-14 at 14:17 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Mon, Sep 13, 2010 at 8:43 AM, Martin Sourada martin.sourada@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, 2010-09-13 at 00:07 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote:
On Sun, Sep 12, 2010 at 11:58 PM, Adam Williamson awilliam@redhat.com wrote:
Check kernel logs and X logs after rebooting, see if there's crash notifications in either. (You'll want to look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old rather than Xorg.0.log). What's the gfx card?
Thanks, I'll check that out, though I doubt that there'll be anything... I have intel 945. Another interesting thing is, I logged into a different account (which I use to testing/playing around) that currently has gnome-shell (as opposed to composited metacity) and so far after more than an hour no freeze. I'll see if it's still running tomorrow.
Ok, that wasn't it. It froze in gnome-shell as well. In the exactly same moment when external USB HDD was waking up (initiated by ls -l on some folder in it). So over night I run full fsck on it. No errors reported, but right now it seems to work (at least I wasn't able to reproduce the freeze in single user mode, I'll see if it appears again in init 5).
/var/log/Xorg.0.log* and /var/log/messages show no traces about the freeze.
So it appeared again, after several hours of usage (so it's much better than it initially was), this time in gnome-screensaver. The USB drive appeared to be running, so I guess kernel was frozen as well.
So, after slowly eliminating possible causes, I came to (uncertain) conclusion that f14 kernel does not like my network card (i.e. unless I missed something, the only time I wasn't able to reproduce this yet is without network cable plugged in). It also seems the freezes have got a lot less frequent (but that might be purely coincidental).
Kernel: kernel-2.6.35.4-28.fc14.i686
Network card: 06:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
Just FYI that I finally updated to a kernel that does not seem to suffer from this (which is sadly in koji only):
$ uname -r 2.6.35.6-36.fc14.i686.PAE
$ uptime 22:11:38 up 3 days, 4:19, 10 users, load average: 1.40, 1.67, 1.80
Not sure if PAE could play any role in this -- I installed the PAE version just for the heck of it (I don't have that much of memory to be actually in need of the PAE)...
Martin