I am currently running FC2T2, but I will be upgrading very soon to FC3T3. Either way, Oracle 10g makes a check for the Linux version before attempting to install a database. I doubt the issues are very much beyond "...not certified for this platform," and I only want to install it for testing and educational purposes. Any ideas about how to fool the Oracle Universal Installer into thinking it is on a supported platform?
I am currently running FC2T2, but I will be upgrading very soon to FC3T3. Either way, Oracle 10g makes a check for the Linux version before attempting to install a database. I doubt the issues are very much beyond "...not certified for this platform," and I only want to install it for testing and educational purposes. Any ideas about how to fool the Oracle Universal Installer into thinking it is on a supported platform?
Edit /etc/redhat-release ?
Le Mercredi 17 Novembre 2004 11:28, Larry D. Brown a écrit :
You'll have to install a bunch of compat packages (support for RedHat 7.3).
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 16:28:34 +0100, DJ Anubis labproject@free.fr wrote:
Le Mercredi 17 Novembre 2004 11:28, Larry D. Brown a écrit :
You'll have to install a bunch of compat packages (support for RedHat 7.3).
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Just a comment on this in particular. I followed the procedures described at:
http://staff.in2.hr/denis/oracle/10g1install_fedora1_en.html
Part of that is the installation of the compatibility libraries and there is mention of gcc296 that supposedly gets installed with compat-gcc. Well, it didn't get installed on my FC3 system, so I went ahead and used gcc 3.4.2. Aside from having to override the installer check, my installation went without a hitch.
I also had to comment this line out of inittab:
h1:35:respawn:/etc/init.d/init.cssd run >/dev/null 2>&1 </dev/null
The cssd stuff is related to rac. All this was doing for me on my install (which is not a production server and does not use any rac stuff) was a bunch of spawning too fast error messages in my syslogs.
--Glenn
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004, Larry D. Brown wrote:
I am currently running FC2T2, but I will be upgrading very soon to FC3T3. Either way, Oracle 10g makes a check for the Linux version before attempting to install a database. I doubt the issues are very much beyond "...not certified for this platform," and I only want to install it for testing and educational purposes. Any ideas about how to fool the Oracle Universal Installer into thinking it is on a supported platform?
There are several way to do it; edit /etc/redhat-release, if you are installing from files rather than CDs edit Disk1/install/oraparam.ini or try runInstaller -ignoreSysPrereqs. Also you might find FC3 just works anyway as I don't think the installer is very clever and I suspect it might confuse FC3 with RHEL3.
Michael Young
Bad question to ask.
What you are asking will land anyone in here in jail in a country with software patents or part of the trading block of the USA and requires reverse engineering the installer, and certain sections of the software to determine how it installs itself.
That is highly illegal, and it violates the software agreement you agreed to when you downloaded 10g anyway.
Only install the Oracle database on a validated copy of Linux for which it is designed if you want to stay out of jail.
I also advise anyone to please take this sort of conversation off the list please, Redhat has and WILL have enough legal problems in the upcomming year, they don't need to be sued by Oracle as well.
-gc
Larry D. Brown wrote:
I am currently running FC2T2, but I will be upgrading very soon to FC3T3. Either way, Oracle 10g makes a check for the Linux version before attempting to install a database. I doubt the issues are very much beyond "...not certified for this platform," and I only want to install it for testing and educational purposes. Any ideas about how to fool the Oracle Universal Installer into thinking it is on a supported platform?
Only install the Oracle database on a validated copy of Linux for which it is designed if you want to stay out of jail.
Good points, but this is a public forum, I doubt Red Hat will be liable for non-staff comments on this list. Still, http://swpat.ffii.org/ *ahem*
Are you a lawyer?
I also advise anyone to please take this sort of conversation off the list please, Redhat has and WILL have enough legal problems in the upcomming year, they don't need to be sued by Oracle as well.
-gc
Who will Red Hat have legal problems with in the coming year (or is this speculation)?
nodata wrote:
Only install the Oracle database on a validated copy of Linux for which it is designed if you want to stay out of jail.
Good points, but this is a public forum, I doubt Red Hat will be liable for non-staff comments on this list. Still, http://swpat.ffii.org/ *ahem*
Are you a lawyer?
Worse, I am afraid.
I am a practicing software engineer in the USA.
I also advise anyone to please take this sort of conversation off the list please, Redhat has and WILL have enough legal problems in the upcomming year, they don't need to be sued by Oracle as well.
-gc
Who will Red Hat have legal problems with in the coming year (or is this speculation)?
Redhat WILL BE SUED, and I hope you guys have a ton of cash because the hammer is going to come down.
-gc
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:03:59 -0600, Gregory G Carter gcarter@aesgi.com wrote:
Bad question to ask.
What you are asking will land anyone in here in jail in a country with software patents or part of the trading block of the USA and requires reverse engineering the installer, and certain sections of the software to determine how it installs itself.
That is highly illegal, and it violates the software agreement you agreed to when you downloaded 10g anyway.
Only install the Oracle database on a validated copy of Linux for which it is designed if you want to stay out of jail.
There isn't any language that I can see in the download click-through license that specifically prohibits installing Oracle software on an unsupported platform. If you download the software and use the '-ignoreSysPrereqs' option or edit the oraparam.ini file, are you reverse engineering anything? I wouldn't think so.
I'm not a lawyer, but if Oracle really was concerned about this whole issue, the websites with specific infomation on doing Fedora or Gentoo installs and the like would be served with take-down notices pretty quickly. Oracle has no shortage of lawyers; just bigger fish to fry so to speak.
--Glenn Stauffer
Glen Staufer wrote:
On Wed, 17 Nov 2004 13:03:59 -0600, Gregory G Carter gcarter@aesgi.com wrote:
Bad question to ask.
What you are asking will land anyone in here in jail in a country with software patents or part of the trading block of the USA and requires reverse engineering the installer, and certain sections of the software to determine how it installs itself.
That is highly illegal, and it violates the software agreement you agreed to when you downloaded 10g anyway.
Only install the Oracle database on a validated copy of Linux for which it is designed if you want to stay out of jail.
There isn't any language that I can see in the download click-through license that specifically prohibits installing Oracle software on an unsupported platform. If you download the software and use the '-ignoreSysPrereqs' option or edit the oraparam.ini file, are you reverse engineering anything? I wouldn't think so.
That isn't the language the poster used though and I quote:
"Any ideas about how to fool the Oracle Universal Installer into thinking it is on a supported platform?"
Ideas such as these would require understanding how the installer works.
That is and of itself is illegal. No undestanding is granted without a license, and it doesn't have to specifically spelled out if you live in the US and attempt to do this.
It is ORACLE's IP and you do NOT have a right to ANY UNDERSTANDING OF IT AT ALL.
Why do you think people who patent a software algorithm can sue people who come up with the same solution because it is so obvious, just by accident.
JUST because you came up with the same solution independantly, DOES NOT EXCUSE YOU from breaching IP.
You must pay, and you WILL PAY DEARLY.
You have no RIGHTS WHATSOEVER when you develop software in the USA or its trading block countries UNLESS:
1) You have a patent that no one can defeat.
2) You have no patent, but argue your case as precedent successfully in a court, that you actually orginally invented the process and own it.
Both require BILLIONS to defend.
Good Luck and God Speed.
-gc
PS: Or move to Europe.
I'm not a lawyer, but if Oracle really was concerned about this whole issue, the websites with specific infomation on doing Fedora or Gentoo installs and the like would be served with take-down notices pretty quickly. Oracle has no shortage of lawyers; just bigger fish to fry so to speak.
--Glenn Stauffer
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