I propose new test case [1]. This test case is related to final criterion:
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
There is no test case for this now.
I have one note on this. There is used noselinux option, but it doesn't work now. I filled bug [2] there is another option with the same effect - selinux=0 and this one works fine, but Anaconda have noselinux in documentation, so it should work and they're working on it.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pschindl/Draft_QA_Testcase_Install_witho... [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=784828
On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 11:36 -0500, Petr Schindler wrote:
I propose new test case [1]. This test case is related to final criterion:
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
There is no test case for this now.
I have one note on this. There is used noselinux option, but it doesn't work now. I filled bug [2] there is another option with the same effect - selinux=0 and this one works fine, but Anaconda have noselinux in documentation, so it should work and they're working on it.
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pschindl/Draft_QA_Testcase_Install_witho... [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=784828
selinux=0 is intended as a temporary kernel parameter to completely disable SELinux on a given boot of an installed system, really. It's probably not exactly the best way to achieve an SELinux-free *install*, though it may happen to have that effect at present. So yeah, I think it makes more sense to get anaconda team to fix the 'noselinux' option.
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
There is no test case for this now.
I have one note on this. There is used noselinux option, but it doesn't work now. I filled bug [2] there is another option with the same effect - selinux=0 and this one works fine, but Anaconda have noselinux in documentation, so it should work and they're working on it.
The option to install without selinux was added at a time when selinux was a new, experimental feature in Fedora. Now, it's an integral part of the distribution. It's time for this option to go away.
- Chris
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 11:43 -0500, Chris Lumens wrote:
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
There is no test case for this now.
I have one note on this. There is used noselinux option, but it doesn't work now. I filled bug [2] there is another option with the same effect - selinux=0 and this one works fine, but Anaconda have noselinux in documentation, so it should work and they're working on it.
The option to install without selinux was added at a time when selinux was a new, experimental feature in Fedora. Now, it's an integral part of the distribution. It's time for this option to go away.
If we don't want to support that, the alternative is to ditch the release criterion. I'm okay with that.
On 01/31/2012 09:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 11:43 -0500, Chris Lumens wrote:
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
There is no test case for this now.
I have one note on this. There is used noselinux option, but it doesn't work now. I filled bug [2] there is another option with the same effect - selinux=0 and this one works fine, but Anaconda have noselinux in documentation, so it should work and they're working on it.
The option to install without selinux was added at a time when selinux was a new, experimental feature in Fedora. Now, it's an integral part of the distribution. It's time for this option to go away.
I disagree. Though SELinux isn't in the poor shape it once was, there are still situations, where users prefer or can not avoid to switch off SELinux.
If we don't want to support that, the alternative is to ditch the release criterion. I'm okay with that.
I am not OK with that.
Ralf
On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 08:04 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 01/31/2012 09:00 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 11:43 -0500, Chris Lumens wrote:
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
There is no test case for this now.
I have one note on this. There is used noselinux option, but it doesn't work now. I filled bug [2] there is another option with the same effect - selinux=0 and this one works fine, but Anaconda have noselinux in documentation, so it should work and they're working on it.
The option to install without selinux was added at a time when selinux was a new, experimental feature in Fedora. Now, it's an integral part of the distribution. It's time for this option to go away.
I disagree. Though SELinux isn't in the poor shape it once was, there are still situations, where users prefer or can not avoid to switch off SELinux.
It's easy enough to do so post-install.
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 12:00 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2012-01-31 at 11:43 -0500, Chris Lumens wrote:
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
There is no test case for this now.
I have one note on this. There is used noselinux option, but it doesn't work now. I filled bug [2] there is another option with the same effect - selinux=0 and this one works fine, but Anaconda have noselinux in documentation, so it should work and they're working on it.
The option to install without selinux was added at a time when selinux was a new, experimental feature in Fedora. Now, it's an integral part of the distribution. It's time for this option to go away.
If we don't want to support that, the alternative is to ditch the release criterion. I'm okay with that.
It looks like better idea to drop criterion as this option is obsolete. So, I propose to remove criterion
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
from final criteria [1]. If someone wants to switch the selinux off it can be easily done from the installed system. Some objections??
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria
I've removed the criterion from [1].
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 17:20 +0100, Petr Schindler wrote:
It looks like better idea to drop criterion as this option is obsolete. So, I propose to remove criterion
"The installed system must run normally if the user chooses to install without SELinux"
from final criteria [1]. If someone wants to switch the selinux off it can be easily done from the installed system. Some objections??
[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Final_Release_Criteria