01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series]
I cannot get gdm to start in rawhide unless I use older versions of the ati driver and xorg-x11-drivers.
$ rpm -q xorg-x11-drivers xorg-x11-drv-ati xorg-x11-drivers-7.3-9.fc10.i386 xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-14.fc10.i386
HOWEVER, if I user the radeonhd driver, all is well.
$ rpm -q xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd-1.2.1-3.7.20080724git.fc10.i386
So, where is the problem? ati driver, drivers, a combination of the two or elsewhere?
I would be more than happy to enter a bz on this, but on what package?
$ lspci 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02) 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express PCI Express Root Port (rev 02) 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02) 00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02) 00:1a.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #6 (rev 02) 00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02) 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 02) 00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 02) 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02) 00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02) 00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02) 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 92) 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801IR (ICH9R) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801IR/IO/IH (ICH9R/DO/DH) 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02) 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series] 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV630/M76 audio device [Radeon HD 2600 Series] 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8056 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 12) 03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 03) 03:00.1 IDE interface: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI Controller (rev 03) 05:01.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. PCI0680 Ultra ATA-133 Host Controller (rev 02) 05:03.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Agere Systems FW323 (rev 70)
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series]
I cannot get gdm to start in rawhide unless I use older versions of the ati driver and xorg-x11-drivers.
Current ATI drivers are not compatible with any xorg server version greater than 1.4.2. There will not be xorg server 1.5 compatibility until next month at the latest.
There is a new ATI driver release as of yesterday (9-17-08) which includes a slew of bugfixes, including screen tearing during xvid play, but it still isnt' capable of working with xorg server 1.5.
ATI users are best advised to use Fedora 8 at this time, which is a more stable platform anyway.
LX
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 15:21 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series]
I cannot get gdm to start in rawhide unless I use older versions of the ati driver and xorg-x11-drivers.
Current ATI drivers are not compatible with any xorg server version greater than 1.4.2. There will not be xorg server 1.5 compatibility until next month at the latest.
There is a new ATI driver release as of yesterday (9-17-08) which includes a slew of bugfixes, including screen tearing during xvid play, but it still isnt' capable of working with xorg server 1.5.
ATI users are best advised to use Fedora 8 at this time, which is a more stable platform anyway.
I think you're talking about the proprietary ATI driver - fglrx - which is not what's being discussed here.
-w
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 15:21:37 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir knightmerc@yahoo.com wrote:
Current ATI drivers are not compatible with any xorg server version greater than 1.4.2. There will not be xorg server 1.5 compatibility until next month at the latest.
That may be true for some ATI stuff, but for my rv280 and r530 based cards F9 was working just fine. There are some issues in rawhide, but considering the big changes for modesetting this isn't entirely surprising.
There is a new ATI driver release as of yesterday (9-17-08) which includes a slew of bugfixes, including screen tearing during xvid play, but it still isnt' capable of working with xorg server 1.5.
Note this isn't a Fedora ATI driver as Fedora's driver for ATI cards hasn't changed for a few days.
Hi All, I am having Sony CR 35G which is having ATI Mobility Radeon X2300 .
When I am trying to install redhat or Fedora, I am getting GUI issue. Although I am able to install the OS in the text mode.
Does any one know the complete process to install it.
Thanks in advance.
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 2:18 AM, Bruno Wolff III bruno@wolff.to wrote:
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 15:21:37 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir knightmerc@yahoo.com wrote:
Current ATI drivers are not compatible with any xorg server version greater than 1.4.2. There will not be xorg server 1.5 compatibility until next month at the latest.
That may be true for some ATI stuff, but for my rv280 and r530 based cards F9 was working just fine. There are some issues in rawhide, but considering the big changes for modesetting this isn't entirely surprising.
There is a new ATI driver release as of yesterday (9-17-08) which includes a slew of bugfixes, including screen tearing during xvid play, but it still isnt' capable of working with xorg server 1.5.
Note this isn't a Fedora ATI driver as Fedora's driver for ATI cards hasn't changed for a few days.
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On 2008-09-18, 19:21 GMT, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series]
I cannot get gdm to start in rawhide unless I use older versions of the ati driver and xorg-x11-drivers.
Current ATI drivers are not compatible with any xorg server version greater than 1.4.2. There will not be xorg server 1.5 compatibility until next month at the latest.
There is a new ATI driver release as of yesterday (9-17-08) which includes a slew of bugfixes, including screen tearing during xvid play, but it still isnt' capable of working with xorg server 1.5.
ATI users are best advised to use Fedora 8 at this time, which is a more stable platform anyway.
Who are you to put here such authoritative statements here? There are many many people using Fedora 9 (and Rawhide) with ATI cards and we are pretty happy with it.
Matěj
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 08:38 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
On 2008-09-18, 19:21 GMT, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series]
I cannot get gdm to start in rawhide unless I use older versions of the ati driver and xorg-x11-drivers.
Current ATI drivers are not compatible with any xorg server version greater than 1.4.2. There will not be xorg server 1.5 compatibility until next month at the latest.
There is a new ATI driver release as of yesterday (9-17-08) which includes a slew of bugfixes, including screen tearing during xvid play, but it still isnt' capable of working with xorg server 1.5.
ATI users are best advised to use Fedora 8 at this time, which is a more stable platform anyway.
Who are you to put here such authoritative statements here? There are many many people using Fedora 9 (and Rawhide) with ATI cards and we are pretty happy with it.
I've run F9, I've got ATI, and I've got an opinion. If you don't like my opinion then bite my ass.
LX
Matěj
Who are you to put here such authoritative statements
here? There
are many many people using Fedora 9 (and Rawhide) with
ATI cards
and we are pretty happy with it.
I've run F9, I've got ATI, and I've got an opinion. If you don't like my opinion then bite my ass.
"Bite" instead of "Kiss", I've never heard that before. Interesting !!
Hope not to offend anyone, but I had not seen this before. Cheers,
Antonio
LX
Matěj
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On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 20:57 +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
On 2008-09-20, 09:05 GMT, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
I've run F9, I've got ATI, and I've got an opinion. If you don't like my opinion then bite my ass.
Enjoy your opinion, but please don't confuse ati drivers with fglrx, so that I don't that confused again. Please.
Matěj
I think you're gonna be confused no matter what, since fglrx DOES happen to be the authoritative ati drivers; by the manufacturer. The manufacturer (by definition the CREATOR of the hardware), is also by definition then the creator of the AUTHORITATIVE drivers. So you've got the real drivers by the manufacturer and then you've got the freetard drivers which have the subpar performance. At least with the latest hardware and not including legacy hardware.
LX
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 17:02:37 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir knightmerc@yahoo.com wrote:
I think you're gonna be confused no matter what, since fglrx DOES happen to be the authoritative ati drivers; by the manufacturer. The manufacturer (by definition the CREATOR of the hardware), is also by definition then the creator of the AUTHORITATIVE drivers. So you've got
That doesn't make them the authoritative Fedora ATI drivers.
the real drivers by the manufacturer and then you've got the freetard drivers which have the subpar performance. At least with the latest hardware and not including legacy hardware.
My r530 based card does get 3d acceleration in F9. I haven't compared it to fglrx so I can't say if fglrx gets a bit more out of the card, but from what you say it sounds like it wouldn't work at all.
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 23:03 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 17:02:37 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir knightmerc@yahoo.com wrote:
I think you're gonna be confused no matter what, since fglrx DOES happen to be the authoritative ati drivers; by the manufacturer. The manufacturer (by definition the CREATOR of the hardware), is also by definition then the creator of the AUTHORITATIVE drivers. So you've got
That doesn't make them the authoritative Fedora ATI drivers.
And since Fedora is not authoritative for ATI, this means exactly jack.
The hierarchy is hardware before software, which should be pretty evident except of course to GNU flagellants. The official drivers are the hardware manufacturer's drivers. And 1 + 1 = 2, 2 + 2 = 4, etc. See you kindergarten class for more details.
the real drivers by the manufacturer and then you've got the freetard drivers which have the subpar performance. At least with the latest hardware and not including legacy hardware.
My r530 based card does get 3d acceleration in F9. I haven't compared it to fglrx so I can't say if fglrx gets a bit more out of the card, but from what you say it sounds like it wouldn't work at all.
You need to boost your reading comprehension then. The paragraph is what it is; keep reading it over and over till you get it, I guess.
Or not.
LX
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:11:44 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir knightmerc@yahoo.com wrote:
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 23:03 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 17:02:37 -0400, Lyvim Xaphir knightmerc@yahoo.com wrote:
I think you're gonna be confused no matter what, since fglrx DOES happen to be the authoritative ati drivers; by the manufacturer. The manufacturer (by definition the CREATOR of the hardware), is also by definition then the creator of the AUTHORITATIVE drivers. So you've got
That doesn't make them the authoritative Fedora ATI drivers.
And since Fedora is not authoritative for ATI, this means exactly jack.
The hierarchy is hardware before software, which should be pretty evident except of course to GNU flagellants. The official drivers are the hardware manufacturer's drivers. And 1 + 1 = 2, 2 + 2 = 4, etc. See you kindergarten class for more details.
The meaningful test of this is where you are getting your support from ATI is going to support their drivers on some specified platforms and Fedora is going to support theirs on Fedora. That means you can get support for the Fedora drivers on all current versions of Fedora where as with ATI's at the current time you can't. That seems to contradict them being the authoritative drivers for Fedora.
the real drivers by the manufacturer and then you've got the freetard drivers which have the subpar performance. At least with the latest hardware and not including legacy hardware.
My r530 based card does get 3d acceleration in F9. I haven't compared it to fglrx so I can't say if fglrx gets a bit more out of the card, but from what you say it sounds like it wouldn't work at all.
You need to boost your reading comprehension then. The paragraph is what it is; keep reading it over and over till you get it, I guess.
Or not.
Did you actually do some objective performance comparisons between the ATI drivers and the latest radeon driver included with Fedora? If so what were the results?
Did you actually do some objective performance comparisons between the ATI drivers and the latest radeon driver included with Fedora? If so what were the results?
Actually I'm using ati driver in fedora and it works much better that ATI driver with compiz and makes compiz applicable. I think it works much faster.
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV630 [Radeon HD 2600 Series]
I cannot get gdm to start in rawhide unless I use older versions of the ati driver and xorg-x11-drivers.
$ rpm -q xorg-x11-drivers xorg-x11-drv-ati xorg-x11-drivers-7.3-9.fc10.i386 xorg-x11-drv-ati-6.9.0-14.fc10.i386
HOWEVER, if I user the radeonhd driver, all is well.
$ rpm -q xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd-1.2.1-3.7.20080724git.fc10.i386
So, where is the problem? ati driver, drivers, a combination of the two or elsewhere?
ati driver.
Did this work with older ati driver?
- ajax
Adam Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
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ati driver.
Did this work with older ati driver?
- ajax
Yes, ati 6.8.0-21.fc10 and, but has to be with drivers 7.3-8.fc10 also.
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 21:07 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
Adam Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
<snip>
ati driver.
Did this work with older ati driver?
- ajax
Yes, ati 6.8.0-21.fc10 and, but has to be with drivers 7.3-8.fc10 also.
That doesn't make any sense. The -drivers package does nothing. It's just a list of Requires.
- ajax
Adam Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 21:07 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
Adam Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 14:43 -0400, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote:
<snip>
ati driver.
Did this work with older ati driver?
- ajax
Yes, ati 6.8.0-21.fc10 and, but has to be with drivers 7.3-8.fc10 also.
That doesn't make any sense. The -drivers package does nothing. It's just a list of Requires.
- ajax
I think it has something to do with the mach64 and r128 drivers. Reverting the ati driver (rpm -Uvh --oldpackage etc) doesn't work unless I remove those drivers and revert the drivers package.
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