i'm currently trying to upgrade my kernel to the koji version to test the new video drivers, but after i've downloaded the koji kernel packages and try "yum localinstall", i'm told i'm missing the corresponding "kernel-firmware" package.
so all i want to do is find the koji kernel-firmware package but the obvious tricks don't work. i would have thought that going to koji.fedoraproject.org and searching on "kernel-firmware" would do the trick but i get no hits. what's the proper way to just *find* a koji package given its name? thanks.
rday
p.s. what's the point of that search box anyway? if i type in "kernel", i get no hits. what's up with *that*? --
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On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm currently trying to upgrade my kernel to the koji version to test the new video drivers, but after i've downloaded the koji kernel packages and try "yum localinstall", i'm told i'm missing the corresponding "kernel-firmware" package.
so all i want to do is find the koji kernel-firmware package but the obvious tricks don't work. i would have thought that going to koji.fedoraproject.org and searching on "kernel-firmware" would do the trick but i get no hits. what's the proper way to just *find* a koji package given its name? thanks.
What I do to download the latest package from a specific tag (e.g. dist-f11-updates-candidate) is:
# koji download-build --latestfrom dist-f11-updates-candidate --arch i386 --arch i586 --arch x86_64 kernel
If you know a specific build id you want to download:
# koji download-build --arch i386 --arch i586 --arch x86_64 <build#>
You will need to adjust --arch accordingly I believe.
p.s. what's the point of that search box anyway? if i type in "kernel", i get no hits. what's up with *that*?
It depends on what's selected in the drop down list (Packages, Builds, Users, Tags etc...). If I search for "kernel" with Packages selected, it takes me to http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8.
When in doubt, add glob patterns. To search for anything gnome... search for "gnome*" (http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/search?terms=gnome*&type=package&...).
Thanks, James
On Wed, 6 May 2009, James Laska wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
p.s. what's the point of that search box anyway? if i type in "kernel", i get no hits. what's up with *that*?
It depends on what's selected in the drop down list (Packages, Builds, Users, Tags etc...). If I search for "kernel" with Packages selected, it takes me to http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8.
ok, that works but there's still some weirdness happening. if i try the same thing with "kernel-devel", i get no hits, even though i *just* downloaded that from koji minutes ago. why wouldn't the "kernel-devel" package be found?
and the package i'm really looking for is "kernel-firmware", which is a listed dependency of the koji kernel package. if i can't find the kernel-firmware package, i'm kind of stuck trying to install the kernel package.
rday --
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Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
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On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:52 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2009, James Laska wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
p.s. what's the point of that search box anyway? if i type in "kernel", i get no hits. what's up with *that*?
It depends on what's selected in the drop down list (Packages, Builds, Users, Tags etc...). If I search for "kernel" with Packages selected, it takes me to http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8.
ok, that works but there's still some weirdness happening. if i try the same thing with "kernel-devel", i get no hits, even though i *just* downloaded that from koji minutes ago. why wouldn't the "kernel-devel" package be found?
When searching by Package, I believe that means searching by src.rpm name. If you want to search for binary packages (like the packages build from a src.rpm), try changing the search target from "Packages" to "RPMs".
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/search?match=glob&type=rpm&terms=...
and the package i'm really looking for is "kernel-firmware", which is a listed dependency of the koji kernel package. if i can't find the kernel-firmware package, i'm kind of stuck trying to install the kernel package.
I *think* kernel-firmware is a noarch package, you might try adding "--arch noarch" to the koji command.
Thanks, James
On Wed, 6 May 2009, James Laska wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:52 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
On Wed, 6 May 2009, James Laska wrote:
On Wed, 2009-05-06 at 07:30 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
p.s. what's the point of that search box anyway? if i type in "kernel", i get no hits. what's up with *that*?
It depends on what's selected in the drop down list (Packages, Builds, Users, Tags etc...). If I search for "kernel" with Packages selected, it takes me to http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=8.
ok, that works but there's still some weirdness happening. if i try the same thing with "kernel-devel", i get no hits, even though i *just* downloaded that from koji minutes ago. why wouldn't the "kernel-devel" package be found?
When searching by Package, I believe that means searching by src.rpm name. If you want to search for binary packages (like the packages build from a src.rpm), try changing the search target from "Packages" to "RPMs".
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/search?match=glob&type=rpm&terms=...
and the package i'm really looking for is "kernel-firmware", which is a listed dependency of the koji kernel package. if i can't find the kernel-firmware package, i'm kind of stuck trying to install the kernel package.
I *think* kernel-firmware is a noarch package, you might try adding "--arch noarch" to the koji command.
adding options to the koji command doesn't make much sense in the context of a search using the text box. but here's where it gets *really* weird.
if i search (graphically) for "kernel-firmware" as an RPM, i get no hits. if, on the other hand, i search for the RE "kernel-f*", it shows up. the obvious test is then to search for "kernel-firmware*" as an RPM, which finds it. that's just weird. and totally non-intuitive.
is it possible that that just happens to me? can anyone else reproduce that?
rday --
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Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry.
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On Wed, 6 May 2009 08:43:37 -0400 (EDT), Robert wrote:
adding options to the koji command doesn't make much sense in the context of a search using the text box. but here's where it gets *really* weird.
if i search (graphically) for "kernel-firmware" as an RPM, i get no hits. if, on the other hand, i search for the RE "kernel-f*", it shows up. the obvious test is then to search for "kernel-firmware*" as an RPM, which finds it. that's just weird. and totally non-intuitive.
is it possible that that just happens to me? can anyone else reproduce that?
Searching "RPMs" searches the actual file names. No RPM file is called "kernel-firmware". They have names like kernel-firmware-2.6.27-0.144.rc0.git2.fc10.noarch.rpm so you can search for a specific version/release/arch, too.
On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 07:43:50 -0400, James Laska jlaska@redhat.com wrote:
What I do to download the latest package from a specific tag (e.g. dist-f11-updates-candidate) is:
# koji download-build --latestfrom dist-f11-updates-candidate --arch i386 --arch i586 --arch x86_64 kernel
kernel-firmware (and kernel-headers) are noarch. And if you are using an i686 kernel, you still use i586 for kernel-headers.
I usually grab one offs from the koji web page. For the kernel, especially, you can skip a lot of stuff you aren't going to use.
On 05/06/2009 01:30 PM, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
i'm currently trying to upgrade my kernel to the koji version to test the new video drivers, but after i've downloaded the koji kernel packages and try "yum localinstall", i'm told i'm missing the corresponding "kernel-firmware" package.
so all i want to do is find the koji kernel-firmware package but the obvious tricks don't work. i would have thought that going to koji.fedoraproject.org and searching on "kernel-firmware" would do the trick but i get no hits. what's the proper way to just *find* a koji package given its name? thanks.
I think either the combo-box entry for the search box should be renamed from "packages" to "source packages" to more properly reflect that koji indeed does *not* search the list of packages or preferably koji should be changed to actually search the list of packages proper (as it pretends it does right now).
Having to deduce the package origin is easy enough in this case but take a look for example at "bochs-bios" and "bochs". "bochs-bios" exists as a source package but it actually generates a package "bochs-bios-data" while the source package "bochs" creates the package "bochs-bios" that you would expect the source package "bochs-bios" to generate. Add the possibility of virtual provides into the mix and things become unneccessarily convoluted.
I think a search for a package should use the list of final user installable packages rather than source packages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_astonishment
Regards, Dennis
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