Hi,
just FTR, yesterday I've tried to upgrade my laptop to F19.
I've chosen to use fedora-upgrade.
Note that I've run that in console, and I logged out from KDE a few minutes after finishing the download, just when I noticed higher disc activity indicating that yum started installing new packages.
This phase took more than two hours ... um, I guess we really need to speed up yum/rpm/underlying filesystem, if a clean F17 install on the same machine took less than 20 minutes :-/
I've rebooted the system then.
So far, I haven't noticed any problems which I would assing to the upgrade (of course, Akonadi still crashing the same way as in F18 etc.)
Great job, Mirek (and all the packagers making sure there are no troubles with updating their packages)!
K.
p.s. not to rest on one's laurels, here are some RFE's: Bug 968275 - RFE: commandline options support Bug 968284 - RFE: support for dnf
On 05/29/2013 01:37 PM, Karel Volný wrote:
just FTR, yesterday I've tried to upgrade my laptop to F19.
I've chosen to use fedora-upgrade.
Note that I've run that in console, and I logged out from KDE a few minutes after finishing the download, just when I noticed higher disc activity indicating that yum started installing new packages.
This phase took more than two hours ... um, I guess we really need to speed up yum/rpm/underlying filesystem, if a clean F17 install on the same machine took less than 20 minutes :-/
Coincidently I upgraded my workstation F19beta today as well. Of course using fedora-upgrade too. It took even longer (3 hours at least). But I was able to work all the time. I run the fedora-upgrade in screen(1), so I started in GUI and in case the session manager will crash I can "screen -r" on console and continue there. But that was not even needed and I was able to work in GUI all the time. The actual time I was forced to spend on upgrade was 15 minutes resolving rpmnew and rpmsave files and one minute on reboot.
Great job, Mirek (and all the packagers making sure there are no troubles with updating their packages)!
Thanks for the feedback.
On Wed, 29 May 2013, Karel Volný wrote:
Hi,
just FTR, yesterday I've tried to upgrade my laptop to F19.
I've chosen to use fedora-upgrade.
Note that I've run that in console, and I logged out from KDE a few minutes after finishing the download, just when I noticed higher disc activity indicating that yum started installing new packages.
This phase took more than two hours ... um, I guess we really need to speed up yum/rpm/underlying filesystem, if a clean F17 install on the same machine took less than 20 minutes :-/
This is definitely due to disk slownes, especially laptops have usually 5400rpm drives. On SSD it took me 20 minutes to upgrade >2500 packages. Not sure what kind of install you mean, maybe live CD may take such a short time?
Great job, Mirek (and all the packagers making sure there are no troubles with updating their packages)!
K.
Adam Pribyl
Hi,
This phase took more than two hours ... um, I guess we really need to speed up yum/rpm/underlying filesystem, if a clean F17 install on the same machine took less than 20 minutes :-/ ...
This is definitely due to disk slownes, especially laptops have usually 5400rpm drives.
eh?
how could you blame hardware when both things I'm comparing were *on the same mchine with the same disk*?
On SSD it took me 20 minutes to upgrade >2500 packages.
which only proves my point, unless you have a way too slooooooow SSD
with transfer speeds 100 MB/s or much more and almost zero access times, I'd expect less than five minutes
Not sure what kind of install you mean, maybe live CD may take such a short time?
network with local mirror ... which makes the comparison even more sad, as I counted the time to upgrade *without* getting the packages while the installation included the download time :-/
K.