Missing WAV decoder

[Christopher L Tubbs II]

Why does the pre-release Fedora 9 not have a simple WAV decoder? I can't 
even play simple PCM files with totem (or any other media player, except 
command-line 'play')

--
Rainman

[David Nielsen]

2008/4/28 Christopher L Tubbs II :
> Why does the pre-release Fedora 9 not have a simple WAV decoder? I can't
> even play simple PCM files with totem (or any other media player, except
> command-line 'play')

I've noticed that with F9 for some deeply annoying reason totem defaults to
using the xine backend, and the totem-backend selector appears to do
nothing, thus I have to start it from the commandline every time to get
gstreamer use.

[Rahul Sundaram]

David Nielsen wrote:
> 2008/4/28 Christopher L Tubbs II <[e-mail] 
> >:
> Why does the pre-release Fedora 9 not have a simple WAV decoder? I
> can't even play simple PCM files with totem (or any other media
> player, except command-line 'play')
>
>
> I've noticed that with F9 for some deeply annoying reason totem defaults 
> to using the xine backend, and the totem-backend selector appears to do 
> nothing, thus I have to start it from the commandline every time to get 
> gstreamer use.

Apparently this is a side effect of a upgrade from a previous release. 
In a fresh installation, according to the spec, gstreamer has a higher 
priority than xine backend. If you have done a fresh installation and 
see this issue, a bug report should be filed. Meanwhile you can remove 
the totem-xine sub package.

Rahul

[John Summerfield]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> David Nielsen wrote:
> >

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> > I've noticed that with F9 for some deeply annoying reason totem 
> > defaults to using the xine backend, and the totem-backend selector 
> > appears to do nothing, thus I have to start it from the commandline 
> > every time to get gstreamer use.
>
> Apparently this is a side effect of a upgrade from a previous release. 
> In a fresh installation, according to the spec, gstreamer has a higher 
> priority than xine backend. If you have done a fresh installation and 
> see this issue, a bug report should be filed. Meanwhile you can remove 
> the totem-xine sub package.

If something used to work, and an upgrade needlessly breaks it, that 
sounds to me like a bug.

[Rahul Sundaram]

John Summerfield wrote:
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > David Nielsen wrote:
> > >
>
> ')
> > > I've noticed that with F9 for some deeply annoying reason totem 
> > > defaults to using the xine backend, and the totem-backend selector 
> > > appears to do nothing, thus I have to start it from the commandline 
> > > every time to get gstreamer use.
> >
> > Apparently this is a side effect of a upgrade from a previous release. 
> > In a fresh installation, according to the spec, gstreamer has a higher 
> > priority than xine backend. If you have done a fresh installation and 
> > see this issue, a bug report should be filed. Meanwhile you can remove 
> > the totem-xine sub package.
>
> If something used to work, and an upgrade needlessly breaks it, that 
> sounds to me like a bug.

Nah. I already had xine-lib and totem-xine installed. So the upgrade 
retained the behavior for me.

Rahul

[Christopher L Tubbs II]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> David Nielsen wrote:
> > 2008/4/28 Christopher L Tubbs II <[e-mail] 
> > >:
> > Why does the pre-release Fedora 9 not have a simple WAV decoder? I
> > can't even play simple PCM files with totem (or any other media
> > player, except command-line 'play')
> >
> >
> > I've noticed that with F9 for some deeply annoying reason totem 
> > defaults to using the xine backend, and the totem-backend selector 
> > appears to do nothing, thus I have to start it from the commandline 
> > every time to get gstreamer use.
>
> Apparently this is a side effect of a upgrade from a previous release. 
> In a fresh installation, according to the spec, gstreamer has a higher 
> priority than xine backend. If you have done a fresh installation and 
> see this issue, a bug report should be filed. Meanwhile you can remove 
> the totem-xine sub package.
>
> Rahul

It appears that you are correct. Based on your info, I did a yum remove 
*totem* and then reinstalled it one at a time. I don't understand why 
the yum update didn't work correctly, though.

Rainman

[David Nielsen]

2008/4/28 Christopher L Tubbs II :
> Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > David Nielsen wrote:
> > > 2008/4/28 Christopher L Tubbs II <[e-mail] >:
> > >
> > > Why does the pre-release Fedora 9 not have a simple WAV decoder? I
> > >    can't even play simple PCM files with totem (or any other media
> > >    player, except command-line 'play')
> > >
> > > I've noticed that with F9 for some deeply annoying reason totem
> > > defaults to using the xine backend, and the totem-backend selector appears
> > > to do nothing, thus I have to start it from the commandline every time to
> > > get gstreamer use.
> >
> > Apparently this is a side effect of a upgrade from a previous release.
> > In a fresh installation, according to the spec, gstreamer has a higher
> > priority than xine backend. If you have done a fresh installation and see
> > this issue, a bug report should be filed. Meanwhile you can remove the
> > totem-xine sub package.
> >
> > Rahul
>
> It appears that you are correct. Based on your info, I did a yum remove
> *totem* and then reinstalled it one at a time. I don't understand why the
> yum update didn't work correctly, though.
>
> Rainman

Would this need a note on the F9 issues page?

[Rahul Sundaram]

David Nielsen wrote:
> Would this need a note on the F9 issues page?

If there is a reproducible problem seen with a update, I rather see a 
bug report first. We don't just list issues without associated bug 
reports in the wiki page.

Rahul

[Christopher L Tubbs II]

Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> David Nielsen wrote:
> > Would this need a note on the F9 issues page?
>
> If there is a reproducible problem seen with a update, I rather see a 
> bug report first. We don't just list issues without associated bug 
> reports in the wiki page.
>
> Rahul

Well, it seems the bug is in the RPM install script that fails to deal 
with the previous installation correctly... (maybe?) An updated package 
that addresses the issue in the install script would be the preferred 
fix (for me anyway). Would this even be an issue for the GA release?

Rainman

[Rahul Sundaram]

Christopher L Tubbs II wrote:
> Well, it seems the bug is in the RPM install script that fails to deal 
> with the previous installation correctly... (maybe?) An updated package 
> that addresses the issue in the install script would be the preferred 
> fix (for me anyway). Would this even be an issue for the GA release?

If you file a bug report and get it fixed, no. That would be the 
preferred path compared to listing it as a known issue.

Rahul

[Jesse Keating]

On Apr 28, 2008, at 3:25, "David Nielsen"  wrote:
> 2008/4/28 Christopher L Tubbs II :
> Why does the pre-release Fedora 9 not have a simple WAV decoder? I  
> can't even play simple PCM files with totem (or any other media  
> player, except command-line 'play')
>
> I've noticed that with F9 for some deeply annoying reason totem  
> defaults to using the xine backend, and the totem-backend selector  
> appears to do nothing, thus I have to start it from the commandline  
> every time to get gstreamer use.
>
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Is there a bug filed on this somewhere?

--jes