Synaptics works again . . xorg.conf works now

[Jim Cornette]

I just wanted to not that synaptics works now for me. I found out by 
accident after installing an ati driver from updates-testing when trying 
to get the latest f8 kernel. I needed to switch to vesa and scrolling 
and normal mouse operations returned with an xorg.conf
I have back the rawhide ati with "radeon" as the driver and synaptics is 
still functional.
Jim

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[Jeremy Katz]

On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 17:46 -0500, Jim Cornette wrote:
>  I just wanted to not that synaptics works now for me. I found out by
>
>  accident after installing an ati driver from updates-testing when trying 
>  to get the latest f8 kernel. I needed to switch to vesa and scrolling 
>  and normal mouse operations returned with an xorg.conf
>  I have back the rawhide ati with "radeon" as the driver and synaptics is 
>  still functional. 
Cool.  Good info to have.  Now just to get synaptics auto-setup in the
case where you don't have an xorg.conf

Jeremy

[Bryn M. Reeves]

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Jim Cornette wrote:
>  I just wanted to not that synaptics works now for me. I found out by
>  accident after installing an ati driver from updates-testing when trying
>  to get the latest f8 kernel. I needed to switch to vesa and scrolling
>  and normal mouse operations returned with an xorg.conf
>  I have back the rawhide ati with "radeon" as the driver and synaptics is
>  still functional. 
Finally got round to pulling this onto my laptop & although synaptics is
mostly working now, the "extra" mouse keys on my thinkpad T60 (the group
of three above the pad) are not working. The two below the pad are
working just fine.

Anyone else seeing this, or have suggestions to debug?

xorg-x11-server-common-1.4.99.1-0.13.fc9.x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.4.99.1-0.13.fc9.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-mouse-1.2.3-3.fc9.x86_64
synaptics-0.14.4-12.fc9.x86_64

Regards,
Bryn.

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[Ignacio Vazquez-Abrams]

On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 10:26 +0000, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>  Finally got round to pulling this onto my laptop & although
> synaptics is
>  mostly working now, the "extra" mouse keys on my thinkpad T60 (the group
>  of three above the pad) are not working. The two below the pad are
>  working just fine.
>  
>  Anyone else seeing this, or have suggestions to debug? 
See if you get any output from /dev/input/event* when you press them.

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[Leszek Matok]

Dnia 2007-12-14, o godz. 10:26:51 "Bryn M. Reeves" <breeves(a)redhat.com&gt;
napisał(a):

>  Finally got round to pulling this onto my laptop & although
> synaptics is
>  mostly working now, the "extra" mouse keys on my thinkpad T60 (the group
>  of three above the pad) are not working. The two below the pad are
>  working just fine.
>  
>  Anyone else seeing this, or have suggestions to debug? 
The keys above the touchpad
are the mouse buttons of the "joystick", not the
touchpad. If it's disabled in the BIOS, the buttons shouldn't work. I remember
being surprised when the joystick and its buttons stopped working when I
plugged PS/2 mouse in :) Anyhow, even if it's enabled, it's the secound mouse
device, which Xorg should detect by itself, unless you have a static xorg.conf
telling it to you the touchpad exclusively.

Lam

[Bryn M. Reeves]

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Leszek Matok wrote:
>  The keys above the touchpad are the mouse buttons of the
> "joystick", not the
>  touchpad. If it's disabled in the BIOS, the buttons shouldn't work. I remember
>  being surprised when the joystick and its buttons stopped working when I
>  plugged PS/2 mouse in :) Anyhow, even if it's enabled, it's the secound mouse
>  device, which Xorg should detect by itself, unless you have a static xorg.conf
>  telling it to you the touchpad exclusively. 
Thanks Lam, I wondered if it was something like this. The device is
enabled in the BIOS and was working fine with the same xorg.conf before
the mass X update.

Removing the explicit InputDevice section for the synaptics gives me
working "joystick" buttons but I loose the synaptics functionality. I'm
guessing that with a bit of fiddling they can both be made to work.

Previously this "just worked" however.

Regards,
Bryn.



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[Jim Cornette]

Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>  Removing the explicit InputDevice section for the synaptics gives me
>  working "joystick" buttons but I loose the synaptics functionality. I'm
>  guessing that with a bit of fiddling they can both be made to work.
>  
>  Previously this "just worked" however. 
I have a USB mouse connected which works when running without an 
xorg.conf file in tandem with the pointer only for the touchpad.
With the xorg.conf file, the USB mouse does not work but the synaptics 
functions as before the X problem.
Secondary pointing devices might need attention when running with an 
xorg.conf file.

Jim


>  
>  Regards,
>  Bryn.

[Bryn M. Reeves]

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Jim Cornette wrote:
>  Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
> > Removing the explicit InputDevice section for the synaptics gives me
> > working "joystick" buttons but I loose the synaptics functionality.
> I'm
> > guessing that with a bit of fiddling they can both be made to work.
> >
> > Previously this "just worked" however.
>  
>  I have a USB mouse connected which works when running without an
>  xorg.conf file in tandem with the pointer only for the touchpad.
>  With the xorg.conf file, the USB mouse does not work but the synaptics
>  functions as before the X problem.
>  Secondary pointing devices might need attention when running with an
>  xorg.conf file. 
Right, this is what I am seeing too. I've been playing around with
different combinations of InputDevice this morning without success but
the testing is being slowed by another problem I'm hitting with the
intel driver - I'll open a separate BZ for that.

Cheers,
Bryn.

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[Chuck Anderson]

On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 12:22:15PM +0000, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
>  > I have a USB mouse connected which works when running without
> an
>  > xorg.conf file in tandem with the pointer only for the touchpad.
>  > With the xorg.conf file, the USB mouse does not work but the synaptics
>  > functions as before the X problem.
>  > Secondary pointing devices might need attention when running with an
>  > xorg.conf file.
>  
>  Right, this is what I am seeing too. I've been playing around with
>  different combinations of InputDevice this morning without success but
>  the testing is being slowed by another problem I'm hitting with the
>  intel driver - I'll open a separate BZ for that. 
I opened a bug on this and referenced this thread since I couldn't 
find any existing bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=427099

[Bryn M. Reeves]

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Chuck Anderson wrote:
>  I opened a bug on this and referenced this thread since I
> couldn't 
>  find any existing bug:
>  
>  
>   
I got this working via the config file in the end & didn't have a chance
to go back and figure out why it didn't "just work" anymore.

Regards,
Bryn.
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