Are the packages in Fedora modified specially for Fedora? I mean if theres a feature you think might be good for the app. Do you contact the fedoa packagers or go upstream?
Frank
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Frank Murphy wrote:
Are the packages in Fedora modified specially for Fedora? I mean if theres a feature you think might be good for the app. Do you contact the fedoa packagers or go upstream?
You can tell the fedora packager but given that fedora pulls from upstream and upstream has more control over the program, upstream is your better bet.
-sv
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 12:20 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Sun, 15 Jun 2008, Frank Murphy wrote:
Are the packages in Fedora modified specially for Fedora? I mean if theres a feature you think might be good for the app. Do you contact the fedoa packagers or go upstream?
You can tell the fedora packager but given that fedora pulls from upstream and upstream has more control over the program, upstream is your better bet.
-sv
Basically got nowhere upstream.
So wil throw the suggestion here:
Network Manager, get some way to flash the icon if date is flowing, as at the moment it's impossible to tell with a cursory glancd.
Maybe flash red for sending, blue for receivng. no color no data.
Frank
Frank Murphy wrote:
Basically got nowhere upstream.
So wil throw the suggestion here:
Network Manager, get some way to flash the icon if date is flowing, as at the moment it's impossible to tell with a cursory glancd.
Maybe flash red for sending, blue for receivng. no color no data.
Using colour is a bad idea especially for colour blind people.
Rahul
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Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
Basically got nowhere upstream.
So wil throw the suggestion here:
Network Manager, get some way to flash the icon if date is flowing, as at the moment it's impossible to tell with a cursory glancd.
Maybe flash red for sending, blue for receivng. no color no data.
Using colour is a bad idea especially for colour blind people.
Shouldn't visual details like this be handled in themes anyway, allowing the user to chose the most appropriate appearance for their own needs/environment?
Regards, Bryn.
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 21:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
Basically got nowhere upstream.
So wil throw the suggestion here:
Network Manager, get some way to flash the icon if date is flowing, as at the moment it's impossible to tell with a cursory glancd.
Maybe flash red for sending, blue for receivng. no color no data.
Using colour is a bad idea especially for colour blind people.
Rahul
Then some easy eye-catching trick, have it dissapear if no date flowing, or vibrate.
Frank
Frank Murphy wrote:
Then some easy eye-catching trick, have it dissapear if no date flowing, or vibrate.
That might be something to consider but that consideration should happen upstream. If you have suggested that in a RFE, pointing that out might be useful. Fedora is unlikely to patch NM to do anything like this for reasons outlined in
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WhyUpstream
Note also that NM primary upstream developer is the same as the NM package maintainer in Fedora and it is very much unlikely that they would diverge.
Rahul
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 17:30 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 21:55 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Frank Murphy wrote:
Basically got nowhere upstream.
So wil throw the suggestion here:
Network Manager, get some way to flash the icon if date is flowing, as at the moment it's impossible to tell with a cursory glancd.
Maybe flash red for sending, blue for receivng. no color no data.
Using colour is a bad idea especially for colour blind people.
Rahul
Then some easy eye-catching trick, have it dissapear if no date flowing, or vibrate.
I think NM is not the place for this. There are tools such as gkrellm which show traffic flow. Just use one of them.
poc
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 12:16 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Then some easy eye-catching trick, have it dissapear if no date flowing, or vibrate.
I think NM is not the place for this. There are tools such as gkrellm which show traffic flow. Just use one of them.
poc
Tried, cant fit it in the tray. colour are also bad for me. Colours in syntem monitor are better, but it's a big box.
Frank
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Frank Murphy wrote:
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 12:16 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
Then some easy eye-catching trick, have it dissapear if no date flowing, or vibrate.
I think NM is not the place for this. There are tools such as gkrellm which show traffic flow. Just use one of them.
poc
Tried, cant fit it in the tray. colour are also bad for me. Colours in syntem monitor are better, but it's a big box.
If you use gnome, what about the gnome network-monitor applet? It's a panel applet so you can put it next to the system tray. I used to use this & it does give basic idle/send/receive information.
Have to admit, I just added it on my f9 machine (using NetworkManager), and it's not actually working too good. I get an unprintable unicode char for one interface, a blank for another (I'm assuming these two are eth0/wlan0 - both show "error" status), and "lo" for localhost, which does actually seem to work properly.
I'll file a bug if there's nothing in BZ already...
Cheers, Bryn.
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 18:03 +0100, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:
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Colours in syntem monitor are better, but it's a big box.
If you use gnome, what about the gnome network-monitor applet? It's a panel applet so you can put it next to the system tray. I used to use this & it does give basic idle/send/receive information.
Have to admit, I just added it on my f9 machine (using NetworkManager), and it's not actually working too good. I get an unprintable unicode char for one interface, a blank for another (I'm assuming these two are eth0/wlan0 - both show "error" status), and "lo" for localhost, which does actually seem to work properly.
Network Monitor 2.12.1
If thats it ,just got it up there. It flashes for data, small and simple
Thanks Bryn
Frank
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Frank Murphy wrote:
Network Monitor 2.12.1
If thats it ,just got it up there. It flashes for data, small and simple
That's the one! Glad it's working for you.
Maybe there's something busted in my gconf tree that's making it break here. Will try it from a fresh account later.
Cheers, Bryn.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 05:30:48PM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
Then some easy eye-catching trick, have it dissapear if no date flowing, or vibrate.
Status widgets should (generally) not show activity or keep changing - they draw the eye and distract users. If you actively want to find out if data is flowing you can do so
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 16:42 -0400, Alan Cox wrote:
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 05:30:48PM +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
Then some easy eye-catching trick, have it dissapear if no date flowing, or vibrate.
Status widgets should (generally) not show activity or keep changing - they draw the eye and distract users. If you actively want to find out if data is flowing you can do so
Not when doing a net render, the less mucking about looking for stuff the better. You need to know data is passing without going through menus, the flash \and or color is perfect. and takes nothing extra from processing. The last thing you need is a power draw. A quick flash is less distracting then opening a window.
Frank
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 17:15 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
Are the packages in Fedora modified specially for Fedora?
Some are, most aren't. All are "configured" to fit into Fedora.
I mean if theres a feature you think might be good for the app. Do you contact the fedoa packagers or go upstream?
Depends.
Fedora packages may be configured in ways such that they may have some features disabled for some reasons. In those cases, it may make sense to contact the Fedora packagers to "request features".
Requests for addition of "really new features" should go upstream.
Ralf