Re: where to announce and discuss test updates (Re: Fedora Core 1 Test Update)

[Jef Spaleta]

Let me sum up the debate about this:

group A wants the test update notices to be more widely distributed
via other mediums beyond just the test-list. fedora-list was suggested
as an example medium to use for wider notification.

group B thinks fedora-list is pretty much /dev/null, and posting
notices there will only encourage people to discuss things in
fedora-list instead of moving over to fedora-test. Or god
forbid..crosspost.

Both groups are right.

Might I suggest that someone approach the community sites like
fedoranews or fedorazine to shepherd something like an rss feed
for the test update notices...or a summary webpage or just the test
update notices. The key idea is to find secondary communication mediums
that are solely informative and not open for feedback. So that all
potential discussion is driven to the fedora-test-list... instead of
falling into secondary feedback forums, where it does no good.
fedora-list, being purely noisy discussion, is probably the best worst
example of the type of secondary feedback forum...no wait...slashdot
would be the best worst example. But wider distribution of the testing
notice texts isn't a completely horrible idea, you just have to avoid
communication channels that encourage feedback anywhere but in the
fedora-test-list or bugzilla.

-jef

Configuring sound from the console

[Mike Pedersen]

Hello all, I am running an up to date test 1 installation and am having some
sound troubles.  Sound does not automatically get configured on my Dell
notebook with an Intel chip set.  When I run alsamixer I get an error and am
told to run a graphical sound configuration tool.  What I am wondering is:
what is the new equivalent to the old sndconfig which allowed a user to
configure sound from the command prompt?  I am blind so am not able to use
Gnome until I get sound configured and the Gnome screen reader enabled which
is why I need to do this in text mode.   
Any useful information would be much appreciated.  
regards
Mike Pedersen

Configuring sound from the console

[Jim Cornette]

Mike Pedersen wrote:
> Hello all, I am running an up to date test 1 installation and am having some
> sound troubles.  Sound does not automatically get configured on my Dell
> notebook with an Intel chip set.  When I run alsamixer I get an error and am
> told to run a graphical sound configuration tool.  What I am wondering is:
> what is the new equivalent to the old sndconfig which allowed a user to
> configure sound from the command prompt?  I am blind so am not able to use
> Gnome until I get sound configured and the Gnome screen reader enabled which
> is why I need to do this in text mode.   
> Any useful information would be much appreciated.  
> regards
> Mike Pedersen

It seems that there is no configuration tool for text mode.

I downloaded sndconfig from Fedora Core 1 and tried it out. It did not 
detect sound on my system. I did get a dialog box with the below message.

You don't seem to be running a kernel with modular sound enabled. 
(soundcore.o was not found in the module search path). To use sndconfig, 
you must be running a kernel with modular sound, such as the kernel 
shipped with Red Hat Linux or a 2.2 or greater kernel.

I think 2.6 is greater than 2.2 - I think the kernel is modular.

It makes good sense to include a configuration tool, for souncards, 
that runs in text mode. The GUI version has a few buttons and you just 
click on it to test the souncard. It does not sound like making it work 
in text mode, The tool is called system-config-soundcard. It seems 
currently broken with the alsa drivers. It worked fine for the OSS drivers.

If you happen to have an intel AC 97 soundcard, I have a configuration 
file setup for /etc/modprobe.conf - This is the file the modules for 
sound cards and other devices is located for the 2.6 kernel.

Try adding these lines to your /etc/modprobe.conf file and see if this 
is a lucky match. The entries are located at the bottom of the file, in 
my case.

The file excerpt begins:

alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0
install sound-slot-0 /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install sound-slot-0 && 
/bin/aumix-minimal -f /etc/.aumixrc -L >/dev/null 2>&1 || :

the file excerpt ends:

Jim

Configuring sound from the console

[William F. Acker WB2FLW [phone]]

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004, Mike Pedersen wrote:
> Hello all, I am running an up to date test 1 installation and am having some
> sound troubles.  Sound does not automatically get configured on my Dell
> notebook with an Intel chip set.  When I run alsamixer I get an error and am
> told to run a graphical sound configuration tool.  What I am wondering is:
> what is the new equivalent to the old sndconfig which allowed a user to
> configure sound from the command prompt?  I am blind so am not able to use
> Gnome until I get sound configured and the Gnome screen reader enabled which
> is why I need to do this in text mode.   
> Any useful information would be much appreciated.  
> regards

Hi,

It looks like the standard alsaconf utility isn't included in FC2T1.  
In your /etc/modprobe.conf, you can try adding the following. 
alias snd-card-0 <drivername>
alias snd-slot-0 snd-card-0
     If you need help, call or write.  Calling will usually get a quicker 
response.
          HTH.

where to announce and discuss test updates (Re: Fedora Core 1 Test Update)

[Aaron Bennett]

Jef Spaleta wrote:
> .
>
> Might I suggest that someone approach the community sites like
> fedoranews or fedorazine to shepherd something like an rss feed
> for the test update notices...
>
> -jef

An RSS feed for updates would be unbelievably cool, not just for FC2 but 
for other RH stuff as well.