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Fedora 29 install on Dell Precision 5530 with Quadro P2000
by jeandet 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hello, I installed Fedora 29 on a Dell Precision 5530, the live system worked perfectly! But after reboot the installed system was unstable, freezes few seconds after login to the point that it was impossible to do anything. Even switching virtual console was impossible. After booting in mutli-user mode I discover that this was due to the Quadro P2000, I was able to solve the problem installing nvidia's proprietary drivers through ssh. So my point is, is that an installer bug? I mean if the live system is stable, shouldn't the installed system work exactly the same way? If yes, then against which component should I open a bug report? I have the feeling that installing nvidia driver in "text" mode is not possible/easy for new users while Dell Laptops are known to support Linux out of the box. This may prevent new users to install(without help) Fedora on such devices. The other sad point is that, at least for my organization, we can't buy this machine without Nv GPU... Best regards, Alexis.

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rsyslog, syslog-ng and journald all at the same time?
by Robert P. J. Day 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

was poking around logging and just now noticed that, on my fedora 29 system, both of rsyslog and syslog-ng (and, i'm assuming systemd journalling) are running at the same time. is that normal? i don't recall ever messing with installing additional logging packages, but maybe i did and just don't remember. in any event, does that configuration even make sense? can all three of those logging services co-exist? or must i have done something weird and illogical at some point to get into this situation? rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA http://crashcourse.ca/dokuwiki Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday LinkedIn: http://ca.linkedin.com/in/rpjday ========================================================================

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Debian vs Fedora
by vipul kumar 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Greetings, I'm a Debian user(from almost 3 years). And I've question Why should I choose Fedora over Debian as a my operating system? Cheers, finn

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Fedora-29 + Evince -
by Bob Goodwin 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

. I was never able to configure Fedora-28 to fit my needs, however Fedora-29 [upgraded daily] has gone much better and I have actually been able to use it for a few days. Now I find that evince has had its "View Options" removed. I use the the Inverted Colors menu feature to read pdf text. Some googling produced a suggestion to try via a "gio" command, I tried: bobg]# gio set /home/bobg/mozilla.pdf metadata::evince::inverted-colors: 1 gio: Setting attribute metadata::evince::inverted-colors: not supported Is my command correct? I tried dnf down grading evince, that didn't help. It's frustrating, I select programs that do what I need, always looking for high contrast white text on black, and then lose the needed features in the next version. I still rely on Fedora-27 to do what doesn't work here. Is this evince function likely to be restored, hopefully soon? Any information or suggestions appreciated, Bob -- Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 FEDORA-29/64bit LINUX XFCE Fastmail POP3

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Serious F29 Problem - For me!
by ja 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

I have a fully working (Clean Installed) F29 test machine which seems OK for some users (fred) who has a very small home directory. User home directories are NFS mounted from a Centos 7.5.1804 server I am using lightdm & XFCE on both F28 & F29 I login to F29 as me (ja) and the display locks up continually, the display can become smeared, applications freeze, ..., it is totally unusable - core dumping maybe. I login to XFCE as another user (fred) and su - ja and run applications with no problems - evolution, google-chrome, pcmanfm, ... I conclude that there is something in my ~/.config or ~/.cache that F29 cannot handle during the login phase or shortly after. There are 11323 files in ~/.config and 5431 in ~/.cache Worse still when I return to my F28 machine as ja then problems are now present on that machine as well. Presumably ~/.config (maybe ~/.cache) has been corrupted by F29. I have to restore ~/.config (394MB) and once ~/.cache(532MB) from a backup before I have a usable F28 machine again. (and hence can send this email) I have tried things such as "find ~/.config -amin -3" to find changed files but nothing I have deleted/moved has helped. I have used journalctl -f and top I have seen xfce4-panel, xfsettingsd, xfdesktop seg fault (libgdk-3) At one stage I thought "setenforce 0" helped but now not convinced. Has anyone else seen this problem or has some suggestion for better ways of trouble shooting? I am loathe to have to re-create all those settings in ~/.config Struggling!

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Fedora 29: Gnome 3.30.1-2: Shell Extension TaskBar@zpydr is unstable, then unusable
by Dario Lesca 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

I'm a user of TaskBar@zpydr gnome shell extension, and after update to Gnome 3.30 (Fedora 29) this extension do not work correctly anymore. For example when Gnome ScreenSaver stat, this extension crash, into journal I see this messages: nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: == Stack trace for context 0x55803d5df230 ==nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #0 7ffc1eee5da0 b resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/overrides/GObject.js:468 (7f2fbf8cc040 @ 25)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #1 55803fc6e938 i /home/lesca/.local/share/gnome- shell/extensions/TaskBar@zpydr/extension.js:2496 (7f2fbc0e8ca0 @ 20)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #2 7ffc1eee6d40 b self-hosted:261 (7f2fbf8c1dc0 @ 223)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #3 55803fc6e880 i /home/lesca/.local/share/gnome- shell/extensions/TaskBar@zpydr/extension.js:2494 (7f2fbc0e8940 @ 353)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #4 55803fc6e7e8 i /home/lesca/.local/share/gnome- shell/extensions/TaskBar@zpydr/extension.js:602 (7f2fbf64b820 @ 2534)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #5 55803fc6e728 i resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/extensionSystem.js:70 (7f2fbf654d30 @ 229)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #6 55803fc6e6a0 i resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/extensionSystem.js:194 (7f2fbf654f70 @ 18)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #7 55803fc6e610 i resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/extensionDownloader.js:63 (7f2fbf65f160 @ 93)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #8 55803fc6e590 i resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/shellDBus.js:312 (7f2fbf332280 @ 15)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #9 7ffc1eee7e70 b resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/_legacy.js:82 (7f2fbf8b0b80 @ 71)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #10 55803fc6e4c8 i resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/overrides/Gio.js:256 (7f2fbf8bd5e0 @ 65)nov 08 14:13:06 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: #11 55803fc6e420 i resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/overrides/Gio.js:326 (7f2fbf8bd820 @ 34)nov 08 14:13:21 dodo.home.solinos.it org.gnome.Shell.desktop[12655]: Window manager warning: META_CURRENT_TIME used to choose focus window; focus window may not be correct. Now I use the last patched version from here: https://github.com/zpydr/gnome-shell-extension-taskbar Some day ago the author have merge a patch, but seem this is not enough. Someone can help me to repair this extension? (I'm not a javascript programmer ) It's possible to know what API is changed into Gnome 3.30 ? where I find this kind of information? Many thanks -- Dario Lesca (inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 28 Workstation)

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Sticks with not lights
by ToddAndMargo 08 Nov '18

08 Nov '18

Hi All, I am starting to use flash drive s with no led activity indicator. In my scripts that write to them, I am able to umount then watch the blinking lights to make sure it is done before removing them But with no led indicator, how can I test from my script to make sure it is done writing? Many thanks, -T -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without the mustard ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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lyx update
by Patrick Dupre 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

Hello, I run dnf update (fedora 28), but lyx has not been updated I am still running lyx-2.2.4-1.fc26.x86_64 How to force the update ? Thank. =========================================================================== Patrick DUPRÉ | | email: pdupre(a)gmx.com Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie de l'Atmosphère | | Université du Littoral-Côte d'Opale | | Tel. (33)-(0)3 28 23 76 12 | | Fax: 03 28 65 82 44 189A, avenue Maurice Schumann | | 59140 Dunkerque, France ===========================================================================

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problem file copy to external disk
by Joerg Lechner 07 Nov '18

07 Nov '18

Hi, I copy many films (i.e. 30GB at once) to a ntfs formatted disk. 1 or 2 or more films of them end with input/output error. A repeated copy of the unsuccessful copied film into the same file folder ends also with input/output error, changing the name of this film still ends with input/output error. Copying into an other folder of the same external disk is successful. Does anyone know how to get around? Is there a tool to display the entries of files in a ntfs folder? Possibly I would have to remove a bit, which says "no copy - input/output error" for this film. I copy with the file tools of Gnome, F28/F29. Copying with Win8.1, there no problem occurs, but it's about 30% slower then doing it wit F28 or F29. My configuration: The original films are on the internal Laptop disk (ntfs)(win 8.1). The system is run by Fedora on an USB 3.0 Stick. The films are copied or moved from the Laptop internal disk to an external ntfs formatted disk via F28 or F29. Kind regards

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Security issue
by finn 06 Nov '18

06 Nov '18

Why wouldn't you regular review your task manager, system settings etc. to confirm your machine has been not comprised ? (Here, few things which you can do to confirm there isn't a breach in your system). 1. Failed logins: /var/log/messages 2. last, w, uptime 3. /etc/passwd changed? 4. fuser for ports 5. portscans in server report 6. weird processing hogging CPU? Switching between different distro in six month is really a big pain. Isnt't it ? ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 6, 2018 10:57 PM, William Oliver <vendor(a)billoblog.com> wrote: > I jump around a lot. I usually reinstall my OS every five or six months. I do it primarily as a security issue -- if my machine has been compromised and I don't know it, at least every few months I *know* I'm clean. What I've found is that the "pain" of installation varies from release to release, and is not a fedora/debian/arch/suse issue per se. I've had some cases where fedora installed like a dream and debian/mint/ubuntu had problems, some cases where debian installed easy and fedora crumped, and some cases where arch/manjaro was great and everything else had problems. > > A few weeks ago, I went to Manjaro, not because I'm an Arch fan, but because I downloaded fedora, kubuntu, and KDE neon and it was the *only* one that installed without a problem. Before that, KDE neon installed without a hitch. Before that Fedora installed without a hitch. > > In a few months, I'll do it again, and it will be a different distro that works... > > Usually, I start with Fedora KDE spin, then try KDE neon, then try Manjaro, then try SUSE. > > billo

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