issue with dnf system upgrade

[François Patte]

Bonjour,

Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.

Downloading the package was okay. Problems occur when I agreed to 
system-upgrade-reboot:
1- No display... I could only dee the led showing HDD accesses
2- After sometimes (when no more accesses were showed, I press enter key 
on the keyboard and the system rebooted on fc34 kernel and still no 
display...
3- I pressed the "y" key on the the keyboard (in case the system upgrade 
was asking some question...) and the display came (hurray!) : I could 
see the login screen of the fc36 version. I could login but all my 
previous display settings were gone....
4- I checked the kernel with command uname -r and it is stille the fc34 
kernel which running... No f36 packages have been installed in /boot....
5- many packages from fc34 remain installed and only some fc36 packages 
have been installed.

What can I do to have a coherent fc36 install now?

-- 
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. [phone]
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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[George N. White III]

On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 10:15 AM François Patte <
francois.patte(a)mi.parisdescartes.fr&gt; wrote:

>  Bonjour,
>
>  Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.
>
>  Downloading the package was okay. 

What package?

From:
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/#sect-...
"... it is highly recommended to perform the upgrade before your release
reaches End of Life (EOL).   "

Around release time for a new version there are updates to prepare for the
next release.  If fc34 did not get all updates, those could
be missing.


>  Problems occur when I agreed to
>  system-upgrade-reboot:
>  1- No display... I could only dee the led showing HDD accesses
>  2- After sometimes (when no more accesses were showed, I press enter key
>  on the keyboard and the system rebooted on fc34 kernel and still no
>  display...
>  3- I pressed the "y" key on the the keyboard (in case the system upgrade
>  was asking some question...) and the display came (hurray!) : I could
>  see the login screen of the fc36 version. I could login but all my
>  previous display settings were gone....
>  4- I checked the kernel with command uname -r and it is stille the fc34
>  kernel which running... No f36 packages have been installed in /boot....
>  5- many packages from fc34 remain installed and only some fc36 packages
>  have been installed.
>
>  What can I do to have a coherent fc36 install now?
>  
You will probably have to do a fresh install.

-- 
George N. White III

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 12:41 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
>  On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 10:15 AM François Patte <
>  francois.patte(a)mi.parisdescartes.fr&gt; wrote:
>  
>  > Bonjour,
>  > 
>  > Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.
>  > 
>  > Downloading the package was okay.
>  
>  
>  What package?
>  
>  From:
>
> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/#sect-...
>  "... it is highly recommended to perform the upgrade before your
>  release
>  reaches End of Life (EOL).   "
>  
>  Around release time for a new version there are updates to prepare
>  for the
>  next release.  If fc34 did not get all updates, those could
>  be missing.
>   
Also, note that F36 is already EOLed. 

poc

[François Patte]

Le 2023-06-05 18:20, Patrick O'Callaghan a écrit :
>  On Mon, 2023-06-05 at 12:41 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 5, 2023 at 10:15 AM François Patte <
> > francois.patte(a)mi.parisdescartes.fr&gt; wrote:
> > 
> > > Bonjour,
> > >
> > > Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.
> > >
> > > Downloading the package was okay.
> > 
> > 
> > What package? 
Sorry, I forgot an "s": the f36 packages...

-- 
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. [phone]
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
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[Thomas Cameron]

On 6/5/23 08:14, François Patte wrote:
>  Bonjour,
>
>  Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.
>
>  Downloading the package was okay. Problems occur when I agreed to 
>  system-upgrade-reboot:
>  1- No display... I could only dee the led showing HDD accesses
>  2- After sometimes (when no more accesses were showed, I press enter 
>  key on the keyboard and the system rebooted on fc34 kernel and still 
>  no display...
>  3- I pressed the "y" key on the the keyboard (in case the system 
>  upgrade was asking some question...) and the display came (hurray!) : 
>  I could see the login screen of the fc36 version. I could login but 
>  all my previous display settings were gone....
>  4- I checked the kernel with command uname -r and it is stille the 
>  fc34 kernel which running... No f36 packages have been installed in 
>  /boot....
>  5- many packages from fc34 remain installed and only some fc36 
>  packages have been installed.
>
>  What can I do to have a coherent fc36 install now?
>  
At that point, I would boot off the Fedora 38 workstation live image, 
back up your /home directory to a USB disk or something like that, nuke 
your computer, and do a fresh install, and restore your home directory.

You're coming from a REALLY old version which was probably really out of 
date to another pretty old version which is already and of life. I'd 
back up, wipe the drive, start fresh, and restore your home directory. 
It will probably be much faster than trying to fix a broken system.

Thomas

[Joe Zeff]

On 06/05/2023 10:59 AM, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>  At that point, I would boot off the Fedora 38 workstation live image,
>
>  back up your /home directory to a USB disk or something like that, nuke 
>  your computer, and do a fresh install, and restore your home directory. 
And this time, put /home on its own partition, so that you can nuke, 
pave and rebuild in the future while keeping /home intact.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 6/5/23 06:14, François Patte wrote:
>  Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.
>  
>  Downloading the package was okay. Problems occur when I agreed to 
>  system-upgrade-reboot: 
What exact commands did you run?

>  1- No display... I could only dee the led showing HDD accesses
Did it reboot to the grub menu.  There should be some sort of progress 
indicator if it's working.

>  2- After sometimes (when no more accesses were showed, I press enter
> key 
>  on the keyboard and the system rebooted on fc34 kernel and still no 
>  display...
>  3- I pressed the "y" key on the the keyboard (in case the system upgrade 
>  was asking some question...) and the display came (hurray!) : I could 
>  see the login screen of the fc36 version. I could login but all my 
>  previous display settings were gone.... 
These interactions don't make any sense.  There should be no interaction 
at all.

>  4- I checked the kernel with command uname -r and it is stille the
> fc34 
>  kernel which running... No f36 packages have been installed in /boot....
>  5- many packages from fc34 remain installed and only some fc36 packages 
>  have been installed.
>  
>  What can I do to have a coherent fc36 install now? 
As someone else already mentioned, at this point it would be much easier 
to do a fresh install of F38.  Backup your /home just in case (you 
should have backups anyway) and install F38 on the existing partition.

[François Patte]

Le 2023-06-05 20:19, Samuel Sieb a écrit :
>  On 6/5/23 06:14, François Patte wrote:
> > Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.
> > 
> > Downloading the package was okay. Problems occur when I agreed to 
> > system-upgrade-reboot:
>  
>  What exact commands did you run? 
When downloading f36 packages ends, the message is ... do 
system-upgrade-reboot ... so I ran: system-upgrade-reboot
> > 1- No display... I could only dee the led showing HDD accesses
>  
>  Did it reboot to the grub menu. 
No


-- 
François Patte
UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. [phone]
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte
FSF
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[stan]

On Mon, 05 Jun 2023 15:14:49 +0200
François Patte <francois.patte(a)mi.parisdescartes.fr&gt; wrote:

>  Bonjour,
>  
>  Today I tried to upgrade from fc34 to fc36.
>  
>  Downloading the package was okay. Problems occur when I agreed to 
>  system-upgrade-reboot:
>  1- No display... I could only dee the led showing HDD accesses
>  2- After sometimes (when no more accesses were showed, I press enter
>  key on the keyboard and the system rebooted on fc34 kernel and still
>  no display...
>  3- I pressed the "y" key on the the keyboard (in case the system
>  upgrade was asking some question...) and the display came (hurray!) :
>  I could see the login screen of the fc36 version. I could login but
>  all my previous display settings were gone....
>  4- I checked the kernel with command uname -r and it is stille the
>  fc34 kernel which running... No f36 packages have been installed in
>  /boot.... 5- many packages from fc34 remain installed and only some
>  fc36 packages have been installed.
>  
>  What can I do to have a coherent fc36 install now?
>   
I think you probably ran into some kind of incompatibility because you
were jumping 2 releases.  If you had moved to f35 and then f36 it
probably would have succeeded.  Others are suggesting a new install of
the latest stable fedora version.  And that is good advice, but I'll
give you advice on how I would recover if I faced this situation.

Because both versions are end of life, their repositories will be
frozen at what was in them when they were changed to EOL.

Check if the two packages fedora-repos and fedora-release were
installed during the upgrade.
rpm -qi fedora-repos
rpm -qi fedora-release
If they are f36 versions, skip the next paragraph.  If 34 versions are
still there along with the f36 versions, you will have to remove them,
making sure you remove only the f34 version
dnf remove [fedora-repos f34 version] [fedora-release f34 version]

If f36 versions weren't there, what you should do is go to koji and
download and install the two packages 
fedora-repos
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2143081
fedora-release
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2095759
for f36.
dnf -C update [fedora-repos f36 pkg] [fedora-release f36 pkg]

Once that is done,
dnf distrosync 

That should pull in all possible f36 package updates for packages you
have installed, and install them.  You will only have one kernel, so
you should probably go back to koji and install at least a second
kernel for f36, so you have a fallback.  That should be this one,
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=2194405

You will have to download all the rpms that you currently have
installed for the kernel and install them individually.

dnf -C install $(ls kernel*.rpm)

There will probably be packages that don't have updates and have
conflicts that you will have to work around, as well.