Sometimes problems with the visibility of threads in thunderbird

[Joachim Backes]

Hi all,

I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.

This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.

Anybody has this effect too?

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

[Bob Goodwin]

On 07/09/14 03:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
>
> This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
>
> Anybody has this effect too?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joachim Backes

Yes.

[poma]

On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
>
> This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
>
> Anybody has this effect too?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joachim Backes

Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.

poma

[Joachim Backes]

On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> > but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> > opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> > mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
> >
> > This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
> >
> > Anybody has this effect too?
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Joachim Backes
>
> Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.

Having running nouveau too (nvidia gforce 210), but sometimes invisible.

Joachim Backes
> poma

[Ed Greshko]

On 07/09/14 15:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
>
> This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
>
> Anybody has this effect too?

Never a problem....  GeForce GTX 660 and the nVidia drivers

[poma]

On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> > On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> > > but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> > > opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> > > mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
> > >
> > > This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
> > >
> > > Anybody has this effect too?
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Joachim Backes
> >
> > Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.
>
> Having running nouveau too (nvidia gforce 210), but sometimes invisible.
>
> Joachim Backes

OK, to see whether the issue is related to Xorg nouveau video module for NVIDIA graphics chipsets i.e. 'nouveau_drv.so', temporarily you can replace it with the Xorg basic modesetting fallback video module i.e. 'modesetting_drv.so'.

# yum install xorg-x11-drv-modesetting

Create a file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf"
with the following four lines:
Section "Device"
     Identifier "video0"
     Driver     "modesetting"
EndSection

After that restart X, or simply reboot. :)
Everything is visible?

poma

[Joachim Backes]

On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> > > On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> > > > but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> > > > opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> > > > mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
> > > >
> > > > This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
> > > >
> > > > Anybody has this effect too?
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards
> > > >
> > > > Joachim Backes
> > >
> > > Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.
> >
> > Having running nouveau too (nvidia gforce 210), but sometimes invisible.
> >
> > Joachim Backes
>
> OK, to see whether the issue is related to Xorg nouveau video module for NVIDIA graphics chipsets i.e. 'nouveau_drv.so', temporarily you can replace it with the Xorg basic modesetting fallback video module i.e. 'modesetting_drv.so'.
>
> # yum install xorg-x11-drv-modesetting
>
> Create a file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf"
> with the following four lines:
> Section "Device"
>      Identifier "video0"
>      Driver     "modesetting"
> EndSection
>
> After that restart X, or simply reboot. :)
> Everything is visible?

Seems to help, thank you. Kernel issue?

Joachim Backes

[poma]

On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
> > On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> > > > On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> > > > > but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> > > > > opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> > > > > mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
> > > > >
> > > > > This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anybody has this effect too?
> > > > >
> > > > > Kind regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Joachim Backes
> > > >
> > > > Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.
> > >
> > > Having running nouveau too (nvidia gforce 210), but sometimes invisible.
> > >
> > > Joachim Backes
> >
> > OK, to see whether the issue is related to Xorg nouveau video module for NVIDIA graphics chipsets i.e. 'nouveau_drv.so', temporarily you can replace it with the Xorg basic modesetting fallback video module i.e. 'modesetting_drv.so'.
> >
> > # yum install xorg-x11-drv-modesetting
> >
> > Create a file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf"
> > with the following four lines:
> > Section "Device"
> >       Identifier "video0"
> >       Driver     "modesetting"
> > EndSection
> >
> > After that restart X, or simply reboot. :)
> > Everything is visible?
>
> Seems to help, thank you. Kernel issue?
>
> Joachim Backes

I'd picked this
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=xorg-...

But before that, take a look at
https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau/bugs/all

poma

[Joachim Backes]

On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
> > > On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> > > > > On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> > > > > > but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> > > > > > opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> > > > > > mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anybody has this effect too?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kind regards
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joachim Backes
> > > > >
> > > > > Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.
> > > >
> > > > Having running nouveau too (nvidia gforce 210), but sometimes invisible.
> > > >
> > > > Joachim Backes
> > >
> > > OK, to see whether the issue is related to Xorg nouveau video module for NVIDIA graphics chipsets i.e. 'nouveau_drv.so', temporarily you can replace it with the Xorg basic modesetting fallback video module i.e. 'modesetting_drv.so'.
> > >
> > > # yum install xorg-x11-drv-modesetting
> > >
> > > Create a file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf"
> > > with the following four lines:
> > > Section "Device"
> > >       Identifier "video0"
> > >       Driver     "modesetting"
> > > EndSection
> > >
> > > After that restart X, or simply reboot. :)
> > > Everything is visible?
> >
> > Seems to help, thank you. Kernel issue?
> >
> > Joachim Backes
>
> I'd picked this
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=xorg-...
>
> But before that, take a look at
> https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau/bugs/all

Hi Poma,

I will check these 2 URL's, but as I told already in the first mail of
this thread, this is possibly an issue for the radeon driver too
(SAPPHIRE HD 5450).

Kind regards

Joachim Backes

[poma]

You can also play around with 'layers.acceleration.*', and moglich 'gfx.xrender.enabled'
in Prefs/Adv/Conf Ed.
No guarantee. ;)

poma

[poma]

On 09.07.2014 12:23, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote:
> > On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
> > > > On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> > > > > > On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> > > > > > > but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> > > > > > > opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> > > > > > > mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anybody has this effect too?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Kind regards
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joachim Backes
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.
> > > > >
> > > > > Having running nouveau too (nvidia gforce 210), but sometimes invisible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joachim Backes
> > > >
> > > > OK, to see whether the issue is related to Xorg nouveau video module for NVIDIA graphics chipsets i.e. 'nouveau_drv.so', temporarily you can replace it with the Xorg basic modesetting fallback video module i.e. 'modesetting_drv.so'.
> > > >
> > > > # yum install xorg-x11-drv-modesetting
> > > >
> > > > Create a file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf"
> > > > with the following four lines:
> > > > Section "Device"
> > > >        Identifier "video0"
> > > >        Driver     "modesetting"
> > > > EndSection
> > > >
> > > > After that restart X, or simply reboot. :)
> > > > Everything is visible?
> > >
> > > Seems to help, thank you. Kernel issue?
> > >
> > > Joachim Backes
> >
> > I'd picked this
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=xorg-...
> >
> > But before that, take a look at
> > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau/bugs/all
>
> Hi Poma,
>
> I will check these 2 URL's, but as I told already in the first mail of
> this thread, this is possibly an issue for the radeon driver too
> (SAPPHIRE HD 5450).
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joachim Backes

What Desktop Environment is in use?
This is probably related with graphics acceleration.

poma

[Joachim Backes]

On 07/09/2014 12:28 PM, poma wrote:
> On 09.07.2014 12:23, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote:
> > > On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
> > > > > On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > > On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> > > > > > > On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > > >> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> > > > > > >> but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> > > > > > >> opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> > > > > > >> mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Anybody has this effect too?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Kind regards
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Joachim Backes
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Having running nouveau too (nvidia gforce 210), but sometimes invisible.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Joachim Backes
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, to see whether the issue is related to Xorg nouveau video module for NVIDIA graphics chipsets i.e. 'nouveau_drv.so', temporarily you can replace it with the Xorg basic modesetting fallback video module i.e. 'modesetting_drv.so'.
> > > > >
> > > > > # yum install xorg-x11-drv-modesetting
> > > > >
> > > > > Create a file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf"
> > > > > with the following four lines:
> > > > > Section "Device"
> > > > >        Identifier "video0"
> > > > >        Driver     "modesetting"
> > > > > EndSection
> > > > >
> > > > > After that restart X, or simply reboot. :)
> > > > > Everything is visible?
> > > >
> > > > Seems to help, thank you. Kernel issue?
> > > >
> > > > Joachim Backes
> > >
> > > I'd picked this
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=xorg-...
> > >
> > > But before that, take a look at
> > > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau/bugs/all
> >
> > Hi Poma,
> >
> > I will check these 2 URL's, but as I told already in the first mail of
> > this thread, this is possibly an issue for the radeon driver too
> > (SAPPHIRE HD 5450).
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Joachim Backes
>
> What Desktop Environment is in use?
> This is probably related with graphics acceleration.
>
> poma

I'm using gnome3.

[poma]

On 07/09/2014 12:29 PM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> On 07/09/2014 12:28 PM, poma wrote:
> > On 09.07.2014 12:23, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > On 07/09/2014 12:01 PM, poma wrote:
> > > > On 09.07.2014 11:50, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > On 07/09/2014 11:35 AM, poma wrote:
> > > > > > On 09.07.2014 11:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > > > On 07/09/2014 10:29 AM, poma wrote:
> > > > > > >> On 09.07.2014 09:12, Joachim Backes wrote:
> > > > > > >>> Hi all,
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> > > > > > >>> but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> > > > > > >>> opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> > > > > > >>> mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Anybody has this effect too?
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Kind regards
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Joachim Backes
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Nope, everything is absolutely visible - nouveau.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Having running nouveau too (nvidia gforce 210), but sometimes invisible.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Joachim Backes
> > > > > >
> > > > > > OK, to see whether the issue is related to Xorg nouveau video module for NVIDIA graphics chipsets i.e. 'nouveau_drv.so', temporarily you can replace it with the Xorg basic modesetting fallback video module i.e. 'modesetting_drv.so'.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > # yum install xorg-x11-drv-modesetting
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Create a file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/00-modesetting.conf"
> > > > > > with the following four lines:
> > > > > > Section "Device"
> > > > > >         Identifier "video0"
> > > > > >         Driver     "modesetting"
> > > > > > EndSection
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After that restart X, or simply reboot. :)
> > > > > > Everything is visible?
> > > > >
> > > > > Seems to help, thank you. Kernel issue?
> > > > >
> > > > > Joachim Backes
> > > >
> > > > I'd picked this
> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/enter_bug.cgi?product=Fedora&component=xorg-...
> > > >
> > > > But before that, take a look at
> > > > https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/xorg-x11-drv-nouveau/bugs/all
> > >
> > > Hi Poma,
> > >
> > > I will check these 2 URL's, but as I told already in the first mail of
> > > this thread, this is possibly an issue for the radeon driver too
> > > (SAPPHIRE HD 5450).
> > >
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Joachim Backes
> >
> > What Desktop Environment is in use?
> > This is probably related with graphics acceleration.
> >
> > poma
>
> I'm using gnome3.

That is not my primary desktop so I leave to others to help.
But at least I can say that there is no problem there, also.
Alles gute, in the final. ;)

poma

[Craig Goodyear]

On 07/09/2014 02:12 AM, Joachim Backes wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'M running thunderbird-24.6.0-1.fc20.x86_64. Sometimes (rather often,
> but not always) having problems with threads in thunderbird: After
> opening a thread, all opened sublines are unvisible, until I move the
> mouse pointer over them (without click): then they will appear.
>
> This happens both with ati and nvidia video cards.
>
> Anybody has this effect too?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Joachim Backes

I too have this bug.  I'm using the nouveau driver and GeForce GT 630 
graphics card.

Craig

[Kevin H. Hobbs]

Oh boy do I ever have this problem.

I hadn't noticed before but since you mentioned threads I've noticed
that what I see is entirely dependent on a thread being collapsed.

If all threads are expanded I can move up and down in the message list
without trouble.

If a thread is collapsed, then moving down to the top of the collapsed
thread or below causes the messages below it to be miss-rendered.

I can move around above the collapsed thread all I want without error.

Swiping the mouse over the miss-rendered threads causes them to be
rendered correctly.