Black screen after login to F39

[Michael Eager]

I upgraded from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 on an AMD Ryzen 5 5600
with Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050 graphics card.  I'm running KDE
Plasma-X11, not Wayland.

I tried to install the GPU drivers several ways using repos/RPMs,
but was not successful.  I am using the Nvidia proprietary
drivers.  They support dual monitors with no problems; I've had
problems with the nouveau driver and dual monitors in the past.

I start the system in multi-user (CLI) mode and then run "startx"
to start X11 and Plasma.  (I started doing this in F38 because of
sddm hanging, which I was not able to resolve.)

When I log in with my user account and run startx, I get a black
screen (extending across both monitors) with an X cursor.  The
cursor moves in response to the mouse, but neither left or right
mouse button do anything. I can get to an alternate console
using alt-F3 and kill the login.

I have discovered a bit of a rain dance to get a working system.  I
can log in as root, run startx, and get a working KDE Plasma-X11
screen.  Then I log out to the sddm screen and log in again with
my user account.  After this, everything (or almost everything)
works correctly.

I've checked the system logs and the Xorg log for any error
or warning messages, but nothing looks incorrect or at all
informative.

Does anyone have any suggestions or insights into this problem?

-- 
Michael Eager

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2023-11-30 at 09:36 -0800, Michael Eager wrote:
>  I upgraded from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 on an AMD Ryzen 5 5600
>  with Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050 graphics card.  I'm running KDE
>  Plasma-X11, not Wayland.
>  
>  I tried to install the GPU drivers several ways using repos/RPMs,
>  but was not successful.  I am using the Nvidia proprietary
>  drivers.  They support dual monitors with no problems; I've had
>  problems with the nouveau driver and dual monitors in the past.
>  
>  I start the system in multi-user (CLI) mode and then run "startx"
>  to start X11 and Plasma.  (I started doing this in F38 because of
>  sddm hanging, which I was not able to resolve.)
>  
>  When I log in with my user account and run startx, I get a black
>  screen (extending across both monitors) with an X cursor.  The
>  cursor moves in response to the mouse, but neither left or right
>  mouse button do anything. I can get to an alternate console
>  using alt-F3 and kill the login.
>  
>  I have discovered a bit of a rain dance to get a working system.  I
>  can log in as root, run startx, and get a working KDE Plasma-X11
>  screen.  Then I log out to the sddm screen and log in again with
>  my user account.  After this, everything (or almost everything)
>  works correctly.
>  
>  I've checked the system logs and the Xorg log for any error
>  or warning messages, but nothing looks incorrect or at all
>  informative.
>  
>  Does anyone have any suggestions or insights into this problem? 
Not really, but you might want to ask on the Fedora KDE list.

poc

[Felix Miata]

Michael Eager composed on 2023-11-30 09:36 (UTC-0800):

>  I upgraded from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 on an AMD Ryzen 5 5600
>  with Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050 graphics card.  I'm running KDE
>  Plasma-X11, not Wayland. 
>  I tried to install the GPU drivers several ways using repos/RPMs,
>  but was not successful.  I am using the Nvidia proprietary
>  drivers.  They support dual monitors with no problems; I've had
>  problems with the nouveau driver and dual monitors in the past. 
>  I start the system in multi-user (CLI) mode and then run
> "startx"
>  to start X11 and Plasma.  (I started doing this in F38 because of
>  sddm hanging, which I was not able to resolve.) 
>  When I log in with my user account and run startx, I get a black
>  screen (extending across both monitors) with an X cursor.  The
>  cursor moves in response to the mouse, but neither left or right
>  mouse button do anything. I can get to an alternate console
>  using alt-F3 and kill the login. 
>  I have discovered a bit of a rain dance to get a working system.  I
>  can log in as root, run startx, and get a working KDE Plasma-X11
>  screen.  Then I log out to the sddm screen and log in again with
>  my user account.  After this, everything (or almost everything)
>  works correctly. 
>  I've checked the system logs and the Xorg log for any error
>  or warning messages, but nothing looks incorrect or at all
>  informative. 
>  Does anyone have any suggestions or insights into this problem?
All good in Plasma/X11 using Intel Graphics, but I'm not using SDDM. I'm still
happy with KDM:
# inxi -GSaz --vs --zl --hostname
inxi 3.3.31-00 (2023-11-02)
System:
  Host: big41 Kernel: 6.6.3-200.fc39.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    compiler: gcc v: 2.40-13.fc39 clocksource: tsc available: hpet,acpi_pm
    parameters: ro root=LABEL=<filter> ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 audit=0
    selinux=0 consoleblank=0
  Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 5.27.9 tk: Qt v: 5.15.11 wm: kwin_x11 vt: 7 dm:
    1: KDM 2: XDM Distro: Fedora release 39 (Thirty Nine)
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4 Series Integrated Graphics vendor: Biostar Microtech Intl
    Corp driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-5 process: Intel 45nm built: 2008
    ports: active: HDMI-A-1,VGA-1 empty: DP-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0
    chip-ID: 8086:2e32 class-ID: 0300
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.2
    compositor: kwin_x11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
    dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3600x1200 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 762x254mm (30.00x10.00")
    s-diag: 803mm (31.62")
  Monitor-1: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 pos: primary,left model: NEC EA243WM
    serial: <filter> built: 2011 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 gamma: 1.2
    size: 519x324mm (20.43x12.76") diag: 612mm (24.1") ratio: 16:10 modes:
    max: 1920x1200 min: 640x480
  Monitor-2: VGA-1 pos: right model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2012
    res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 90 gamma: 1.2 size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65")
    diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400
  API: EGL v: 1.5 hw: drv: intel crocus platforms: device: 0 drv: crocus
    device: 1 drv: swrast gbm: drv: crocus surfaceless: drv: crocus x11:
    drv: crocus inactive: wayland
  API: OpenGL v: 4.5 compat-v: 2.1 vendor: intel mesa v: 23.2.1 glx-v: 1.4
    direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel G41 (ELK) device-ID: 8086:2e32
    memory: 1.46 GiB unified: yes
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[Barry Scott]

>  On 30 Nov 2023, at 17:36, Michael Eager <eager(a)eagercon.com&gt;
> wrote:
>  
>  I upgraded from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 on an AMD Ryzen 5 5600
>  with Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050 graphics card.  I'm running KDE
>  Plasma-X11, not Wayland.
>  
>  I tried to install the GPU drivers several ways using repos/RPMs,
>  but was not successful.  I am using the Nvidia proprietary
>  drivers.  They support dual monitors with no problems; I've had
>  problems with the nouveau driver and dual monitors in the past.
>  
>  I start the system in multi-user (CLI) mode and then run "startx"
>  to start X11 and Plasma.  (I started doing this in F38 because of
>  sddm hanging, which I was not able to resolve.)
>  
>  When I log in with my user account and run startx, I get a black
>  screen (extending across both monitors) with an X cursor.  The
>  cursor moves in response to the mouse, but neither left or right
>  mouse button do anything. I can get to an alternate console
>  using alt-F3 and kill the login.
>  
>  I have discovered a bit of a rain dance to get a working system.  I
>  can log in as root, run startx, and get a working KDE Plasma-X11
>  screen.  Then I log out to the sddm screen and log in again with
>  my user account.  After this, everything (or almost everything)
>  works correctly.
>  
>  I've checked the system logs and the Xorg log for any error
>  or warning messages, but nothing looks incorrect or at all
>  informative.
>  
>  Does anyone have any suggestions or insights into this problem? 
I was finding that X11 was less stable then wayland recently.
It seems that some update made plasma unstable.
There are kde plasma and nvidia update happening at the same time.
I'm trying to report the issues and figure out which of the nvidia drivers
and kde is at fault.

I have downgraded to the 535 nvidia drivers and that sort of helped.
But what seems to be helping is downgrading kde.

Do thing improve for you if you do dnf downgrade kde-wayland?
Yes I noticed you are on X11 - but see if this helps.
If it does please follow up here. Also report what version of nvidia
drivers your using please.

Barry


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[Barry Scott]

>  On 2 Dec 2023, at 09:40, Barry Scott <barry(a)barrys-emacs.org&gt;
> wrote:
>  
>  
>  
> > On 30 Nov 2023, at 17:36, Michael Eager <eager(a)eagercon.com&gt; wrote:
> > 
> > I upgraded from Fedora 38 to Fedora 39 on an AMD Ryzen 5 5600
> > with Nvidia Geforce RTX 3050 graphics card.  I'm running KDE
> > Plasma-X11, not Wayland.
> > 
> > I tried to install the GPU drivers several ways using repos/RPMs,
> > but was not successful.  I am using the Nvidia proprietary
> > drivers.  They support dual monitors with no problems; I've had
> > problems with the nouveau driver and dual monitors in the past.
> > 
> > I start the system in multi-user (CLI) mode and then run "startx"
> > to start X11 and Plasma.  (I started doing this in F38 because of
> > sddm hanging, which I was not able to resolve.)
> > 
> > When I log in with my user account and run startx, I get a black
> > screen (extending across both monitors) with an X cursor.  The
> > cursor moves in response to the mouse, but neither left or right
> > mouse button do anything. I can get to an alternate console
> > using alt-F3 and kill the login.
> > 
> > I have discovered a bit of a rain dance to get a working system.  I
> > can log in as root, run startx, and get a working KDE Plasma-X11
> > screen.  Then I log out to the sddm screen and log in again with
> > my user account.  After this, everything (or almost everything)
> > works correctly.
> > 
> > I've checked the system logs and the Xorg log for any error
> > or warning messages, but nothing looks incorrect or at all
> > informative.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any suggestions or insights into this problem?
>  
>  I was finding that X11 was less stable then wayland recently.
>  It seems that some update made plasma unstable.
>  There are kde plasma and nvidia update happening at the same time.
>  I'm trying to report the issues and figure out which of the nvidia drivers
>  and kde is at fault.
>  
>  I have downgraded to the 535 nvidia drivers and that sort of helped.
>  But what seems to be helping is downgrading kde.
>  
>  Do thing improve for you if you do dnf downgrade kde-wayland?
>  Yes I noticed you are on X11 - but see if this helps.
>  If it does please follow up here. Also report what version of nvidia
>  drivers your using please.
>  
>  Barry 
Following up on this.

The 545 drive is not the problem, it is a change in the last kde update.
dnf downgrade kde-wayland got me back to working.

Barry


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