Re: slack.

[Richard]

>  Date: Tuesday, August 03, 2021 02:22:47 +0800
>  From: Ed Greshko <ed.greshko(a)greshko.com&gt;
>
>  On 03/08/2021 02:18, home user wrote:
> > On 8/2/21 12:15 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> >> On 2021-08-02 10:59 a.m., home user wrote:
> >>> I've been asked to join a "Slack" team. I did a "dnf
> provides
> >>> slack" and got nothing.  Before I try doing things the hard way
> >>> (via the Slack web site), is slack actually not available via
> >>> dnf, or did I do the query incorrectly (wrong name?)?
> >> 
> >> slack is not open-source software, so it's not going to be
> >> available by dnf unless there's an external repo that you add
> >> yourself.
> >> 
> >>> By the way, I see from "dnf provides zoom" that zoom is now
> >>> available via dnf.
> >> 
> >> Same here.  I don't know what command you ran, but zoom is also
> >> not available for the same reason.
> > 
> > bash.4[~]: dnf provides zoom
> > zoom-5.4.53350.1027-1.x86_64 : Zoom, #1 Video Conferencing and Web
> > Conferencing
> >                              : Service
> > Repo        : @System
> > Matched from:
> > Provide    : zoom = 5.4.53350.1027-1
> > 
> > bash.5[~]:
> > 
> > Am I misunderstanding dnf's output?
>  
>  Looks as if you've downloaded something and installed it manually.
>  
>  Otherwise you'd get some output that would show what repo it came
>  from.  Like....
>  
>  Repo        : fedora
>  Repo        : updates 
The name on that zoom info is also a clue. If it had come from a
fedora/redhat/centos repository it would have a repository indicator
"fc33", "fc34", "el7.<rh/centos>" on the package name.
Zoom has
packages available for a range of linux releases available from their
web site, but as with slack, I've not found a repository reference
that can be added to dnf so you need to download their package and do
a local install.

slack.

[home user]

On 8/2/21 12:44 PM, Richard wrote:
[... snip ...]
>  The name on that zoom info is also a clue. If it had come from a
>  fedora/redhat/centos repository it would have a repository indicator
>  "fc33", "fc34", "el7.<rh/centos>" on the package
> name. Zoom has
>  packages available for a range of linux releases available from their
>  web site, but as with slack, I've not found a repository reference
>  that can be added to dnf so you need to download their package and do
>  a local install. 
I should have noticed that too.  Thank-you.
>  
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slack.

[Matti Pulkkinen]

ma, 2021-08-02 kello 18:44 +0000, Richard kirjoitti:
>  
>  The name on that zoom info is also a clue. If it had come from a
>  fedora/redhat/centos repository it would have a repository indicator
>  "fc33", "fc34", "el7.<rh/centos>" on the package
> name. Zoom has
>  packages available for a range of linux releases available from their
>  web site, but as with slack, I've not found a repository reference
>  that can be added to dnf so you need to download their package and do
>  a local install.
>  
>  
This reminded me to ask: I've installed Zoom through the RPM on their
website, and it seems to occasionally update with the rest of my
system's packages via Gnome Software. I installed the RPM manually, but
can an RPM install its own repository or other update source, or am I
misinterpreting things?

-- 
Terveisin / Regards,
Matti Pulkkinen

slack.

[Samuel Sieb]

On 2021-08-03 12:42 a.m., Matti Pulkkinen wrote:
>  ma, 2021-08-02 kello 18:44 +0000, Richard kirjoitti:
> >
> > The name on that zoom info is also a clue. If it had come from a
> > fedora/redhat/centos repository it would have a repository indicator
> > "fc33", "fc34", "el7.<rh/centos>" on the package
> name. Zoom has
> > packages available for a range of linux releases available from their
> > web site, but as with slack, I've not found a repository reference
> > that can be added to dnf so you need to download their package and do
> > a local install.
> >
>  
>  This reminded me to ask: I've installed Zoom through the RPM on their
>  website, and it seems to occasionally update with the rest of my
>  system's packages via Gnome Software. I installed the RPM manually, but
>  can an RPM install its own repository or other update source, or am I
>  misinterpreting things? 
Some packages like Google Chrome install a .repo file. Unless it's 
changed very recently, zoom does not, so it can't be updating through 
Gnome Software.  Why do you think it is?

slack.

[Matti Pulkkinen]

ti, 2021-08-03 kello 00:59 -0700, Samuel Sieb kirjoitti:
>  
>  Some packages like Google Chrome install a .repo file. Unless it's 
>  changed very recently, zoom does not, so it can't be updating through
>  Gnome Software.  Why do you think it is?
>  
>  
I tried looking for a .repo file and realized I was confused: it wasn't
Zoom that I remember seeing, but Teams, and that indeed does have a
.repo file on my system. This answers my question either way though.
Thanks!

-- 
Terveisin / Regards,
Matti Pulkkinen

slack.

[Barry Scott]

>  On 3 Aug 2021, at 08:42, Matti Pulkkinen <mkjpul(a)utu.fi&gt;
> wrote:
>  
>  ma, 2021-08-02 kello 18:44 +0000, Richard kirjoitti:
> > 
> > The name on that zoom info is also a clue. If it had come from a
> > fedora/redhat/centos repository it would have a repository indicator
> > "fc33", "fc34", "el7.<rh/centos>" on the package
> name. Zoom has
> > packages available for a range of linux releases available from their
> > web site, but as with slack, I've not found a repository reference
> > that can be added to dnf so you need to download their package and do
> > a local install.
> > 
>  
>  This reminded me to ask: I've installed Zoom through the RPM on their
>  website, and it seems to occasionally update with the rest of my
>  system's packages via Gnome Software. I installed the RPM manually, but
>  can an RPM install its own repository or other update source, or am I
>  misinterpreting things? 
I do not know of any repo with zoom in it. I use a script like this to install zoom
updates:

#!/bin/bash
URL=https://zoom.us/client/latest/zoom_x86_64.rpm

cd ~/Downloads
rm -f zoom_x86_64.rpm
curl --location --remote-name --silent --show-error ${URL}
INSTALLED=$(rpm -q zoom)
LATEST=$(rpm -qp zoom_x86_64.rpm)
if [ "${INSTALLED}" = "${LATEST}" ]
then
    echo "Info: Zoom is up to date. Version: ${INSTALLED}"
else
    echo "Info: There is a new version of zoom. Installed ${INSTALLED} latest
${LATEST}"
    mv zoom_x86_64.rpm ${LATEST}.rpm
    if [ "$1" = "--install" ]
    then
        echo "Installing new Zoom version"
        sudo dnf install ~${USER}/Downloads/${LATEST}.rpm
    fi
fi

Outputs this when there is no new update:

$ ./check-for-zoom-updates.sh
warning: zoom_x86_64.rpm: Header V4 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 61a7c71d: NOKEY
Info: Zoom is up to date. Version: zoom-5.7.28991.0726-1.x86_64

Barry