reversible dual-boot test station
by Chris Murphy
Hi,
I mentioned this in a QA meeting, and have given it enough testing that I think it's broadly usable. If desired it can be copied out of my user account and put up somewhere where QA folks will see it and can modify it as issues or improvements are discovered.
What is it? The idea is to produce a system that can confidently be used for baremetal testing, without risking the primary operating system. While VM's are a great way to test, it's also a really idealized environment that tends to not expose an assortment of bugs that affect particular hardware. But then quite a lot of folks reasonably don't want to upgrade their daily use hardware early on, because they don't want to always have to debug things, or have to figure out how to undo the upgrade if it really goes badly.
Therefore, I present a dual-boot setup offering:
* no re-partitioning;
* no installation step, instead system upgrade is used;
* reversibility, or undoability, i.e. with just a few steps you can delete the "test OS".
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Chrismurphy/Draft/dualboot_teststation
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Chris Murphy
2 months, 3 weeks
2023-11-27 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting
by Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2023-11-27
# Time: ** 16:00 ** UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: ** #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat **
Greetings testers! It's time for another QA meeting.
Note clocks have changed everywhere they change, by now. If you follow
daylight savings time, the meeting should be at the same local time as
usual. If you do not follow daylight savings time, the meeting will be
one hour later than it was over the summer, in your local time. You can
run `date -u` to see the current UTC time if you are unsure.
As usual lately, please note this meeting will really be *on IRC*.
Matrix may be ready for meeting purposes pretty soon, but I need to
check on that before moving the meeting. So please use an IRC client or
the web client - https://web.libera.chat/#fedora-meeting - to join.
If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
email and suggest them! Thanks.
Note I have a partial conflict for the second half hour of the meeting
slot, so might have to cut the meeting short or let someone take over.
== Proposed Agenda Topics ==
1. Previous meeting follow-up
2. Fedora 40 check-in and Change review
3. Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix?
4. Test Day / community event status
5. Open floor
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Adam Williamson (he/him/his)
Fedora QA
Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw(a)fosstodon.org
https://www.happyassassin.net
5 months, 3 weeks
2023-11-13 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora QA Meeting
by Adam Williamson
# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2023-11-13
# Time: ** 16:00 ** UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: ** #fedora-meeting on irc.libera.chat **
Greetings testers! It's time for another QA meeting.
Note clocks have changed in North America, so the meeting time in UTC
has also changed, as usual. If you follow daylight savings time and
have already set your clock back, the meeting will be at the same local
time as before. If you do not follow daylight savings time or have not
yet set your clocks back, the meeting will be one hour later than
before in your local time. You can run `date -u` to see the current UTC
time if you are unsure.
As usual lately, please note this meeting will really be *on IRC*.
Matrix may be ready for meeting purposes pretty soon, but I need to
check on that before moving the meeting. So please use an IRC client or
the web client - https://web.libera.chat/#fedora-meeting - to join.
If anyone has any other items for the agenda, please reply to this
email and suggest them! Thanks.
== Proposed Agenda Topics ==
1. Previous meeting follow-up
2. Fedora 39 and Fedora 40 check-ins
3. Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix?
4. Test Day / community event status
5. Open floor
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Adam Williamson (he/him/his)
Fedora QA
Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw(a)fosstodon.org
https://www.happyassassin.net
6 months, 1 week
[Testdays] Call for Fedora Linux 40 testing events
by Sumantro Mukherjee
Hi Fedora users, developers, and friends!
It's time to start thinking about Test Days for Fedora 40.
For anyone who isn't aware, a Test Day is an event usually focused
around IRC for interaction and a Wiki page for instructions and results,
with the aim being to get a bunch of interested users and developers
together to test a specific feature or area of the distribution. You can
run a Test Day on just about anything for which it would be useful to do
some fairly focused testing in 'real time' with a group of testers; it
doesn't have to be code, for instance, we often run Test Days for
l10n/i18n topics. For more information on Test Days, see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days .
Anyone who wants to can host their own Test Day, or you can request that
the QA group helps you out with organization or any combination of the
two. To propose a Test Day, just file a ticket in fedora-qa pagure - here's
an example https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/624 . For
instructions on hosting a Test Day, see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management .
You can see the schedule at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issues?tags=test+days .
There are many slots open right now. Consider the development
schedule, though, in deciding when you want to run your Test Day - for
some topics you may want to avoid
the time before the Beta release or the time after the feature freeze
or the Final Freeze.
We normally aim to schedule Test Days on Thursdays; however, if you want
to run a series of related Test Days, it's often a good idea to do
something like Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of the same week (this is
how we usually run the X Test Week, for instance). If all the Thursday
slots fill up but more people want to run Test Days, we will open up
Tuesday slots as overflows. And finally, if you really want to run a
Test Day in a specific time frame due to the development schedule, but
the Thursday slot for that week is full, we can add a slot on another
day. We're flexible! Just put in your ticket the date or time frame you'd
like, and we'll figure it out from there.
If you don't want to run your own Test Day, but you are willing to
help with another, feel free to join one or more of already accepted
Test Days:
GNOME Test Day*
i18n Test Day*
Kernel Test Week(s)*
Upgrade Test Day*
IoT Test Week*
Cloud Test Day*
Fedora CoreOS Test Week*
And don't be afraid, there are a lot of more slots available for your
own Test Day!
[*] These are the test days we run generally to make sure everything
is working fine, the dates get announced as we move into the release
cycle.
If you have any questions about the Test Day process, please don't
hesitate to contact me or any member of the Fedora QA team on test at
lists.fedoraproject.org or in #fedora-qa on IRC. Thanks!
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//sumantro
Fedora QE
TRIED AND PERSONALLY TESTED, ERGO TRUSTED
6 months, 1 week
Anyone running Budgie on Rawhide?
by Ian Laurie
If so, can you launch "SELinux Management" from the system menus?
Because I can't.
I can launch system-config-selinux from a terminal... I can even launch
it by "opening" the desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ but nothing
happens when I try and launch it from the menus. I can launch other
SELinux tools from the menus, just not "SELinux Management".
Anyone got any ideas?
Ian
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Ian Laurie
FAS: nixuser | IRC: nixuser
TZ: Australia/Sydney
6 months, 1 week
PSA: Rawhide Server (and other xfs) installs broken
by Adam Williamson
Hey folks! Just a heads up that Rawhide Server installs are broken in
today's Rawhide compose (and any custom install using xfs). This is
because a new version of xfsprogs went into Rawhide and grub2 cannot
detect filesystems made with it:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247926
I've identified the patches needed in grub2, but I can't patch it
myself as I'm not on the list of people who can build packages that
need to be Secure Boot signed, and anyway, working on the grub2 package
is a bit of a nightmare for non-maintainers due to the whole "hundreds
of patches that are pulled from an alternative upstream git repo"
thing.
I've requested xfsprogs be untagged for now:
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/11763
so if that gets done, things should work again after the next compose.
Unfortunately openQA didn't catch this because we don't test xfs
installs on updates :( Maybe I'll have to add a test somehow.
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Adam Williamson (he/him/his)
Fedora QA
Fedora Chat: @adamwill:fedora.im | Mastodon: @adamw(a)fosstodon.org
https://www.happyassassin.net
6 months, 2 weeks
