2024-03-11 @ ** 16:00 ** UTC - Fedora 40 Blocker Review Meeting
by Adam Williamson
# F40 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2024-03-11
# Time: ** 16:00 ** UTC
# Location:
https://matrix.to/#/#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org?web-instance[elemen...
Hi folks! It's time for another blocker review meeting. We have 2
proposed blockers and 5 proposed freeze exceptions for Beta, and 4
proposed blockers for Final.
Please note that summer time starts in most of North America on Sunday,
and we follow that time for these meetings, so the meeting time in UTC
has changed. If you put your clocks forward this Sunday, the meeting
will be at the same local time as it was last week. If you do not, the
meeting will be one hour *earlier* than it was last week. You can
always run `date -u` to see the current UTC time and check, if you're
not sure. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time
in your local time:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Fedora+40+Block...
The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web
client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a
dedicated client of your choosing.
If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or
accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found
here: https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/ .
Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If
you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you'll see links
labeled "Vote!" next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions.
Those links take you to tickets where you can vote.
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review has instructions on how
exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the
meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs
where there wasn't a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. **THIS
MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!**
We'll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the
Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they're not
fixed. Information on the release criteria for F40 can be found on the
wiki [0].
For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process,
check out these links:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_blocker_bug_process
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_freeze_exception_bug_process
And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting
works - or how it's supposed to go and you want to run one - check out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Have a good weekend and see you on Monday!
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
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2 months, 3 weeks
Fedora-40-20240217.n.0 won't install
by Ian Laurie
I'm guessing this is a known issue but using
Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-40-20240217.n.0.iso to install an Xfce
workstation as a VirtualBox VM resulted in an aborted installation.
Error was:
===
The following error occurred while installing the payload. This is a
fatal error and the installation will be aborted.
An error occurred during the transaction: Error in POSTIN scriptlet in
rpm package dbus-common
===
Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-Rawhide-20240216.n.0.iso from the
previous day gives the same error.
As a sanity check I installed Fedora 39 from
Fedora-Everything-netinst-x86_64-39-1.5.iso and it worked.
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TZ: Australia/Sydney
3 months
2024-02-19 - Fedora Quality Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
=====================================
# #meeting:fedoraproject.org: Quality
=====================================
Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-02-19 16:00:35
Meeting summary
---------------
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:00:41)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:10)
* INFO: "adamw to email marian about LVM bugs" - I did that, and it
looks like Peter Boy got some further information about why things are
the way they are and is working on a plan to deal with them (this is
about https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2247872 as it affects
Server on ARM) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:13:14)
* INFO: further to above: Peter Boy is trying to work on required
changes but needs some information from the ARM team
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:19:50)
* INFO: "adamw to try and talk to mcsontos about
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258764" - I think this was
a clarification of the first action item, actually, so the result is
the same: we've got a bit further along but still trying to work on it
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:26)
* INFO: "adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing
'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly
having the mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)" - well,
I didn't write anything down in any SOPs or anything, but I have been
sending meeting announcements to discourse as well as mailing lists for
the last couple of weeks (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:23:13)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 status, including anaconda web UI test planning
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:32:15)
* INFO: the "web UI" new interface for anaconda (the installer)
that is used on Workstation live images in Fedora 40 changed its
backend for custom partitioning from blivet-gui (the same tool you can
launch from the "gtk UI" current installer interface, as "Advanced
Custom") to cockpit's storage backend (which has never been used in an
installer context before). this landed in the anaconda package on 2023-
02-07 and in a successful compose on 2023-02-10, so it is rather late
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:33:59)
* INFO: there are a few places this is being discussed, including
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2263964 and
https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3169 . We have a ticket for updating the
criteria and test cases at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/763 and a
ticket for atest day at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/764
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:16)
* INFO: the "web UI" new interface for anaconda (the installer)
that is used on Workstation live images in Fedora 40 changed its
backend for custom partitioning from blivet-gui (the same tool you can
launch from the "gtk UI" current installer interface, as "Advanced
Custom") to cockpit's storage backend (which has never been used in an
installer context before). this landed in the anaconda package on 2024-
02-07 and in a successful compose on 2024-02-10, so it is rather late
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:28)
* INFO: please test the new UI if you can, file any bugs you hit,
and mark them as blocking bug 2231339 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:00)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:55:12)
* INFO: the anaconda webui storage Test Week will be coming soon,
tentative start date 2024-02-22 - follow
https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/764 for that (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:56:04)
* INFO: The KDE Plasma 6 happened
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/174 .. good amount of test
runs :) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:56:59)
* INFO: GNOME 46 Desktop and Core Apps happening now
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/175 (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:57:06)
* INFO: i8n will start March 5th
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/177 (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:59:33)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:59:37)
Meeting ended at 2024-02-19 18:19:05
Action items
------------
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* @adamwill:fedora.im (64)
* @sumantrom:fedora.im (18)
* @pboy:fedora.im (8)
* @kparal:matrix.org (8)
* @lruzicka:matrix.org (7)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (2)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (2)
* @linuxfriend01:fedora.im (1)
* @coremodule:fedora.im (1)
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3 months
2024-02-05 - Fedora Quality Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
=====================================
# #meeting:fedoraproject.org: Quality
=====================================
Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-02-05 16:01:02
Meeting summary
---------------
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:01:05)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:13)
* INFO: "adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in
F40" - I did that. haven't heard anything definitive back yet, but I
tried. Gerd Hoffman wrote back that the upstream shim repo got a bunch
of updates which to him suggests there'll be a new release soon, but
that's it (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:59)
* INFO: "adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing
'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly
having the mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)" - we
haven't entirely got around to this yet, sorry. we'll keep trying to
get to it (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:24)
* INFO: "adamw to file a ticket suggesting a Test Day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia" - done (and
I *definitely* did it soon after the last meeting and not five minutes
ago when I read the minutes) - https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/762
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:47)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 check-in (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:59)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 check-in (@bittin:fedora.im, 16:18:59)
* INFO: Fedora 40 will branch on Tuesday 13th, hold on to your hats
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:27:04)
* INFO: the deadline for changes to be 'testable' is the same date
(Tuesday 13th) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:27:47)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:37:29)
* INFO: we had kernel 6.7 test week recently, and Plasma 6 test
week is winding up today - last chance to get your tests in at
https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/174 ) (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:38:22)
* INFO: Fedora i18n/l10n test week has a suggested week of the
first week in March 2024 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:38:35)
* INFO: https://pagure.io/i18n/issue/184#comment-894361
(@bittin:fedora.im, 16:38:46)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:40:45)
* ACTION: adamw to email marian about LVM bugs (@bittin:fedora.im,
16:51:04)
* ACTION: adamw to try and talk to mcsontos about
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258764
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:51:08)
Meeting ended at 2024-02-05 16:57:26
Action items
------------
* adamw to email marian about LVM bugs
* adamw to try and talk to mcsontos about
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2258764
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* @adamwill:fedora.im (67)
* @bittin:fedora.im (31)
* @pboy:fedora.im (14)
* @kparal:matrix.org (9)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (5)
* @frantisekz:fedora.im (5)
* @coremodule:fedora.im (2)
* @nhanlon:beeper.com (2)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (2)
* @tflink:fedora.im (1)
* @salimma:fedora.im (1)
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3 months
2024-01-22 - Fedora Quality Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
=====================================
# #meeting:fedoraproject.org: Quality
=====================================
Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-01-22 16:01:52
Meeting summary
---------------
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:02:00)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:27)
* INFO: "adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in
F40" - oops, I didn't get to this yet. I'll do it today
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:25)
* ACTION: adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in
F40 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:31)
* INFO: "adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing
'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly
having the mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)" - yeah,
uh, we didn't do that yet either, did we? at least I can share the
blame for that! (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:10:58)
* ACTION: adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start
directing 'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists
(and possibly having the mailing list versions encourage use of
discourse?) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:14)
* INFO: "adamw to make sure sumantro is around next time" - he was
intending to, but had an emergency and couldn't make it, I have an
update from him for later (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:15:54)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 Change review and check-in (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:16:10)
* INFO: F40 mass rebuild is in progress right now
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:16:58)
* INFO: there is a major bug affecting XFS installs to BIOS
(including default Server installs) -
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2259266
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:17:20)
* INFO: all updates are currently failing openQA tests apparently
due to accounts.fp.o being down (the web browser test uses it), I will
rerun tests once it's back up, if it stays down for a long time I'll
figure out a workaround (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:11)
* INFO: boost soname bump landed right before the mass rebuild,
keep an eye out for any changes from that (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:18:50)
* INFO: accepted Changes are at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/40/ChangeSet
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:22:56)
* ACTION: adamw to file a ticket suggesting a Test Day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:29)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:42:27)
* INFO: kernel test week is running 2021-01-21 to 2024-01-28 -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-01-21_Kernel_6.7_Test_Week
and https://testdays.fedoraproject.org/events/173 (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:43:19)
* INFO: KDE/Plasma 6.0 test week will be 2024-01-29 through 2024-
02-05 -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2024-01-29_KDE_Plasma_6_Test_Week
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:43:57)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:49:33)
* INFO: test info (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:34)
Meeting ended at 2024-01-22 19:26:56
Action items
------------
* adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in F40
* adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing 'official'
messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly having the
mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)
* adamw to file a ticket suggesting a Test Day for
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModernizeLiveMedia
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* @adamwill:fedora.im (85)
* @bittin:fedora.im (28)
* @nhanlon:beeper.com (16)
* @geraldosimiao:matrix.org (14)
* @coremodule:fedora.im (9)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (7)
* @kparal:matrix.org (6)
* @tflink:fedora.im (5)
* @farribeiro:matrix.org (5)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (3)
* @conan_kudo:matrix.org (1)
* @amoloney:fedora.im (1)
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3 months
2024-01-08 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
=====================================
# #meeting:fedoraproject.org: fedora-qa
=====================================
Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2024-01-08 16:01:56
Meeting summary
---------------
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:02:06)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:09)
* INFO: no action items from the previous meeting, does anybody
have anything that wasn't marked as an action item?
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:35)
* INFO: no action items from the previous meeting
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:08)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 check-in (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:23)
* INFO: we have 4 proposed blockers and 6 accepted blockers for F40
(though 4 of the accepted blockers are image size bugs and we're in the
process of lifting those limits). would be good for folks to vote on
the proposals (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:25)
* ACTION: adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in
F40 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:12:36)
* INFO: there are still four more change proposals to come as they
were proposed before deadlines over the holidays (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:22:04)
* INFO: in general F40 seems to be in solid shape at the moment, no
major breakages (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:38:43)
* TOPIC: Communications overhaul: Discourse? (@adamwill:fedora.im,
16:42:51)
* ACTION: adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start
directing 'official' messages to discourse as well as mailing lists
(and possibly having the mailing list versions encourage use of
discourse?) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:20)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im,
17:05:34)
* INFO: tabled as sumantro is not around (@adamwill:fedora.im,
17:05:54)
* ACTION: adamw to make sure sumantro is around next time
(@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:00)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:05)
Meeting ended at 2024-01-08 17:10:36
Action items
------------
* adamw to contact bootloader folks about plans for shim in F40
* adamw and kparal to come up with a plan to start directing 'official'
messages to discourse as well as mailing lists (and possibly having the
mailing list versions encourage use of discourse?)
* adamw to make sure sumantro is around next time
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* @adamwill:fedora.im (75)
* @kparal:matrix.org (20)
* @nielsenb:fedora.im (17)
* @amoloney:fedora.im (10)
* @tflink:fedora.im (6)
* @lruzicka:matrix.org (5)
* @zodbot:fedora.im (4)
* @pboy:fedora.im (3)
* @nhanlon:beeper.com (2)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (2)
* @coremodule:fedora.im (2)
* @nirik:matrix.scrye.com (1)
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3 months
2023-12-11 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
=====================================
# #meeting:fedoraproject.org: fedora-qa
=====================================
Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 2023-12-11 16:00:33
Meeting summary
---------------
* TOPIC: Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:00:49)
* TOPIC: Previous meeting follow-up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:49)
* INFO: "adamw to consider moving the meeting back to Matrix next time" - well, seems like that's working out so far :) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:21)
* TOPIC: Fedora 40 check-in (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:27:31)
* INFO: 40 is looking mostly fine right now, tests are mostly passing with a few known issues and the mysterious GNOME bug where clicking on stuff in openQA sometimes doesn't work. please remember to keep testing the new installer UI (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:08)
* TOPIC: Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix? (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:35:11)
* TOPIC: Test Day / community event status (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:41)
* INFO: let's skip this for now as sumantro couldn't make it (family issues) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:53)
* TOPIC: Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:50:58)
Meeting ended at 2023-12-11 16:57:44
Action items
------------
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* @adamwill:fedora.im (93)
* @nielsenb:fedora.im (53)
* @nhanlon:beeper.com (11)
* @kparal:matrix.org (8)
* @lruzicka:matrix.org (4)
* @coremodule:fedora.im (3)
* @tflink:fedora.im (2)
* @meetbot:fedora.im (2)
* @ujjwalmahar:matrix.org (1)
* @nscnt:matrix.org (1)
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3 months
2023-11-27 - Fedora QA Meeting - Minutes
by Adam Williamson
==================================
#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA meeting
==================================
Meeting started by adamw at 16:00:25 UTC. The full logs are available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2023-11-13/fedora-qa.202...
.
Meeting summary
---------------
* Roll Call (adamw, 16:00:37)
* Previous meeting follow-up (adamw, 16:11:22)
* no action items from previous meeting (adamw, 16:11:41)
* Fedora 39 and Fedora 40 check-ins (adamw, 16:12:57)
* Fedora 39 was released last week, the release seems to be going over
well (adamw, 16:13:10)
* thanks to kparal for working on the common issues and everybody for
all the testing of this release (adamw, 16:13:24)
* also thanks to kparal96 (and kparals 2 through 95) (adamw,
16:15:52)
* Fedora 40 seems mostly fine at this point, except for an annoying
bug (possibly in mesa?) which is causing frequent failures in some
openQA GNOME tests...now I'm back from vacation I'll be looking into
that (adamw, 16:16:41)
* Communications overhaul: Discourse and Matrix? (adamw, 16:27:17)
* LINK: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/tag/quality-team
(adamw, 16:31:52)
* adamw is planning to propose making matrix the official team chat
for all purposes (including meetings as soon as the matrix bot is
usable) and moving from mailing lists to discourse for async
discussion. will send more detailed proposals out later (adamw,
16:37:15)
* LINK: https://fedoramagazine.org/join-the-conversation/ seems to
exist (adamw, 16:44:13)
* Test Day / community event status (adamw, 16:47:36)
* we are in the kernel 6.6 test week, so please help out with that:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-11-12_Kernel_6.6_Test_Week
(adamw, 16:48:13)
* the call for Fedora 40 Test Days is out:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.or...
(adamw, 16:48:54)
* Open floor (adamw, 16:50:16)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2023-11-12_Kernel_6.6_Test_Week
guess this week Kernel 6.6 for Fedora 39 and 38 is being tested
(luna_, 16:56:45)
Meeting ended at 17:15:01 UTC.
Action Items
------------
Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* adamw (60)
* kparal (17)
* luna_ (10)
* pboy (9)
* The_Exorcist (9)
* zodbot (7)
* coremodule (3)
* kparal96 (2)
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3 months
