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APAC ambassadors meeting log. 09-07-2008
by susmit shannigrahi 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

<magie> MagieAntonio <susmit> SusmitShannigrahi <shambo> shambo <born2linux> EngelsAntonio <dipanjanc> DipanjanChakraborty <rishikesh> Rishikesh <rishikesh> RishikeshSharma <btoogood> btoogood <susmit> btoogood, your wiki name please (FirstnameLastname) <btoogood> BrendonToogood <susmit> what do we have on agenda? <dipanjanc> t-shirts <rishikesh> apac polo shirt <susmit> ok <rishikesh> upcoming events for q4 <rishikesh> chinese forum support <dipanjanc> we were talking about the design and price <rishikesh> any chinese member here? <susmit> the design can be "outsourced" to art team <susmit> are you aware of the service? <dipanjanc> yes <shambo> yes <dipanjanc> does the price depend on the design? <dipanjanc> or is there a fixd one? <susmit> rarely, when you produce in bulk, its fixed <btoogood> i reckon a fixed price myself <dipanjanc> how much is it around? <dipanjanc> and can we customize it for our region/ <shambo> !! <susmit> dipanjanc, +1 <shambo> Its about 25 euro <btoogood> as because of different currencies around apac if people are going to order in bulk just a thought <shambo> dipanjanc, +1 <susmit> shambo, too high a price, we produced some in ~INR250 :) <dipanjanc> 25 euro is around how much in INR? <btoogood> approx $54 NZD <rishikesh> 1592 inr <susmit> very conservative estimate, excluding shipping, ~10USD * Subhodip has quit (No route to host) <susmit> but the question is <dipanjanc> 1592 INR is too high <rishikesh> yea <susmit> who is going to produce them and how to ship it <susmit> ? <rishikesh> i think 10 euro is better <dipanjanc> can we take susmit's suggestion of INR 250? <rishikesh> we will contact famsco for this * Subhodip (n=subhodip(a)117.201.96.141) has joined #fedora-meeting <susmit> Initially, it will involve a lot of money <susmit> rishikesh, that's fine <rishikesh> becasue all the financial matter require to contact famsco <dipanjanc> if we want to customize it, who's doing the design? <susmit> they are unlikely to provide support for something non-event <rishikesh> they have already done for the european ambassadors <btoogood> ok i have just had a thought, now dont bite me, but why not get the design done and the ambassadors get them printed for there regions, according to colour of the polo <btoogood> as different countries different prices for printing, just a thought <Subhodip> i guess it was for fudcon <susmit> EMEA has done that..my friend shambo shandflm SMParrish sm|CPU Sonar_Gal Sonar_Guy sonar_logger3 spevack spot spstarr_work stickster StillBob Subhodip susmit <susmit> and yes, Subhodip is right <dipanjanc> so, what's the solution? <shambo> we must calculate the oder no first as with that pricing will vary .i.e if we are ordering <Subhodip> getting a polo shirt printed will be expensive <susmit> Subhodip, not much <susmit> ~10USD <rishikesh> for that quatity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt request <rishikesh> for that quantity, we need to put up the wiki for polo shirt request <magie> it's around 7 us dollars in the philippines <Subhodip> so what about normal tees ..then btoogood's suggestion can be done <susmit> magie, nice :) <susmit> Subhodip, we <susmit> have two things <susmit> one production cost, and another shipping cost <magie> normal t-shirts go for 4.3 us dollars <dipanjanc> btoogood's suggestion of getting the design done and printing it locally is good. <dipanjanc> is it not? <rishikesh> lets fix one thing first <susmit> yes <Subhodip> if we have a specific design and if we print them locally as per btoogood then shipping cost <Subhodip> is not needed i guess <susmit> first thing is, lets approach art team for a cooool design. <rishikesh> it should be polo shirt or t-shirt <susmit> :) <rishikesh> to me i think polo shirt is better than th-shirt <Subhodip> +1 <dipanjanc> whichever is more economic :) <rishikesh> 'casue in any event, polo shirt is better <Subhodip> tee shirt <susmit> rishikesh, me, me , me too... <btoogood> tee shirt is better in summer <rishikesh> t-shirt is very casual <rishikesh> not so formal <dipanjanc> we mostly have summer in India <Subhodip> eh .. i am wearing fedora tee now ..its not casual <susmit> what others say? <rishikesh> 'cause we represent fedora <dipanjanc> casual is not a factor. I think <EvilBob> Get Fedora skirts so you stand out in the crowd... <rishikesh> what we do is what fedora is * EvilBob runs <dipanjanc> whatever is good will do <Subhodip> EvilBob, lol * susmit runs afet EvilBob <susmit> after <shambo> tees will be better <btoogood> +1 for tees <Subhodip> so what about if we have a design and let the ambassador print on what he wan t <rishikesh> so representing fedora on people event by wearing t-shirt is not a good idea to me <Subhodip> want <dipanjanc> +1 for tees <susmit> hold on for a second <susmit> what about girls? <Subhodip> rishikesh, you are getting it wrong <dipanjanc> girls wear t-shirts <dipanjanc> don't they? <susmit> but the _same_ t-shirt? <btoogood> they do here <Subhodip> susmit, yes <dipanjanc> they do wear the same t-shirts. * mdomsch (n=mdomsch(a)cpe-70-124-62-55.austin.res.rr.com) has joined #fedora-meeting <susmit> I have no problem, but why not ask the girls? <btoogood> uni-sex tees <dipanjanc> But, incase they are reluctant, we must think of an alternative <shambo> if being formal is the case full sleeve shirts is a better option <dipanjanc> I am not much conversant about ladies-wears <susmit> lets post this idea on list..and ask for "criticism" :) <rishikesh> ok <shambo> +1 <Subhodip> +1 <rishikesh> +1 <btoogood> +1 <dipanjanc> +1 <susmit> +1 :) * btoogood just asked my wife she thinks tees <dipanjanc> will differ from country to country <susmit> and? we are waiting with our finger crossed :D <rishikesh> fedora is the voice of people, so lets put up on wiki for vote <dipanjanc> have we finalised for the men? <dipanjanc> or do we vote for it? <btoogood> lets take a vote <susmit> lets discuss it on the list first...then we 'll have a vote * Subhodip thinks normal tee is better .. but not the white one ..if printed on black/blue ..its great <dipanjanc> if we go for a vote, we must also mention the estimated price against each option <shambo> about the costing : we should select a nation where cost of printing and cost of tees/polos will be low <btoogood> +1 for blue <dipanjanc> and shipping <shambo> withn APAC <rishikesh> we should go for fedora colour <shambo> shipping will be less than that of US <susmit> considering APAC is a huge region, why don't we produce it two or three countries.. <Subhodip> first get the artwork done .. then we can have it printed in our respective countries <susmit> but lets not get into details first <susmit> Subhodip, right <dipanjanc> then what about the idea of printing it locally? <Subhodip> why bother about shipping right now <shambo> subhodip +1 <susmit> dipanjanc, hold on <susmit> Lets define the tasks <dipanjanc> ok <shambo> ok <rishikesh> ok <susmit> 1. Post to the list asking for suggestions <btoogood> ok <susmit> 2. Request the art team along with Ideas <susmit> 3. Decide whether it will be a t-shirt or whatever <susmit> 4. Who is going to produce and store and ship <susmit> 5. How many? <susmit> EOF <rishikesh> ok <rishikesh> +1 <shambo> +1 <dipanjanc> done <susmit> anything anyone want to add? <rishikesh> lets do this onefirst <dipanjanc> can we also list the estimated price when we decide? <rishikesh> good idea <btoogood> good idea <susmit> yes we can <dipanjanc> which point does this add to? 6.? <susmit> dipanjanc, why don't you put up a wiki page on the same? <shambo> i think we should consider both pricing of tees and polos <dipanjanc> ok. I will do it. And let you know <susmit> thanks <rishikesh> ok <susmit> so may we move? <shambo> it will help in price comparison and better decision making <rishikesh> thats the end of discussion for shirts <dipanjanc> yes what's next? <rishikesh> now lets move forward for the events <btoogood> yip lets <shambo> yes <susmit> anyone from china? <rishikesh> i think we should go for a event in which all regions members can meet with <susmit> I guess no...so no point discussing agenda 2 <rishikesh> each other ambassadors <dipanjanc> we are from different countries <Subhodip> susmit, link to agenda 2 please <susmit> Subhodip, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-07 <susmit> agenda 3 <rishikesh> i think chinese people are not avaibale on the meeting <Subhodip> susmit, thanks <dipanjanc> q4 events <susmit> yes <rishikesh> yea <rishikesh> i have too a event on december 7 <magie> ! <susmit> magie, <susmit> please go on <magie> OT: we have an upcoming event on Sept 20, Q3 <magie> before we talk about Q4 <susmit> oops...the budget for Q3 is closed. But please go on <magie> funding was allocated for apac c/o Harish Pillay <susmit> oh, its listed <susmit> ok <susmit> SFD>' <susmit> ? <magie> software freedom day <magie> http://bluepoint.com.ph/sfd08/ <magie> just want to ask how we go about getting help/funds <magie> if anyone has done it before <susmit> if you have an event, you need to enlist the event before that quarter's budget is closed <magie> yes we've done that, what's next? <rishikesh> the guidelines is also avaibale on the wiki <susmit> if famsco approve that, you will get funded <magie> budget is approved but how do we get the fund? <rishikesh> on december 7, 2008 i have Fedora 10 Realease party and install fest at Imphal,Manipur <rishikesh> this is the first fedora event in my region <susmit> I am not sure, probably you receive the fund after the event, I was so told...anyone from FamsCo here? <born2linux> magie, maybe we can just coordinate with famsco or harish about your inquiry <susmit> magie, anything else? <dipanjanc> I think we can move on <rishikesh> ok <susmit> rishikesh, have you enlisted your event? <magie> it's ok, I think rishikesh is excited about his event <susmit> :) <rishikesh> yea <rishikesh> you can check on the wiki <susmit> have you estimated expense and mailed famsco? <rishikesh> i would like to proposed an event in which apac ambassadors can meet with each other <rishikesh> nope <susmit> do that <Subhodip> rishikesh, do one thing at a time <btoogood> that would be good but very expensive though going from one country to another <rishikesh> ok <susmit> btoogood, +1 <Subhodip> btoogood, +1 <born2linux> +1 <susmit> rishikesh, why do you think meeting in person is very necessary? <dipanjanc> btoogood, +1 <btoogood> +1 <dipanjanc> we are meetin here <rishikesh> do i need to explain all the detail expenses <rishikesh> while submitting <susmit> as minutely as possible <rishikesh> ok <btoogood> ok <susmit> Subhodip, can you have one such event? <susmit> may be at your place? or nit dgp? <susmit> I meant release event... <shambo> susmit we have a event on 20 sept <susmit> shambo, just a second <susmit> please <Subhodip> i need to talk to people in my college * stickster is now known as stickster_afk <susmit> do it please <Subhodip> ok <dipanjanc> yes. that will be great <susmit> dipanjanc, you can do that too at your lug? <dipanjanc> susmit: what about your place? <dipanjanc> yes I can. I suppose <susmit> go on and organise <susmit> shambo, please <dipanjanc> will need some details about how it's done <shambo> susmit we have a event on 20 sept <susmit> dipanjanc, mail me offlist <dipanjanc> ok <susmit> is it listed <susmit> ? * makghosh (n=Joy(a)117.201.96.28) has joined #fedora-meeting <shambo> check out http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents <susmit> which one? * warren (n=warren@redhat/wombat/warren) has joined #fedora-meeting <shambo> owner A. Mani <susmit> oh..ok <susmit> SFD <shambo> yes <susmit> do you need any assistance? <susmit> not money <susmit> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/SteeringCommittee/Budget does not show your event <shambo> yes can i attend it . im not an ambassador <susmit> of course <shambo> ok <dipanjanc> can anyone give me the venue in Kolkata for this? <shambo> where is the event in kolkata no details is given <susmit> but that depends on the organisers, within fedora, if you are not an Ambassador its not a problem.. <susmit> but why don't be one? <Subhodip> no offence ...aren't we deviating from agenda ..we are still stuck with Q3 .. <susmit> Subhodip, and its the last one :D <susmit> but yes, shambo mail Mani A. <susmit> anyone else? <shambo> ok <susmit> anything more anyone want to discuss? <susmit> 5 <rishikesh> yes <susmit> rishikesh, <rishikesh> what are resources i can avail for my event <susmit> what do you need? <rishikesh> my event is fedora 10 release and i need fedora 10 dvd media <rishikesh> it is not released now <susmit> if you receive money, you need to take care of all those things from your budget <rishikesh> but when it is released <susmit> please search the wiki <shambo> there is a alpha release <rishikesh> when submiting budget <rishikesh> can i include all the requirements <rishikesh> iam going for a final release not alpha <rishikesh> like blank dvd cost <susmit> estimate..for example....for producing 100 media I need 100*9=900 INR for media and 100*1 =100 INR for stickers..So 1000INR for media and so on... <rishikesh> projector hiring cost <btoogood> stickers? <susmit> cd labels <btoogood> true <susmit> rishikesh, https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/Organization <susmit> go through it. <susmit> anything more? <rishikesh> ok <susmit> 5 <susmit> 4 <susmit> 3 <susmit> 2 -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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Hello all
by chicagonpg 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

My name is Shaun Mallette and I have been using Fedora since Fedora 5, I started using open source three years ago. I have been into computers since 1992 but once I found out about linux and open source I never looked back to anything else. I'm a big supporter of linux and open source. I live in Portage, Indiana USA and I'm part of the local LUG lugin.org. I'm part of FWN and trying to learn how to help with that also.I'm current enrolled in a linux/unix certification program and hope one day to get certififed for Red Hat.

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UTOSC 2008 Report
by Clint Savage 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

Well, I know FUDCon Brno is going on right now, I hope everyone is having fun over there. But I thought I'd better get this going before I head out on the road again for a bunch of weeks. I've been a bit busy cleaning up after UTOSC 2008, but now that I'm back in the swing of things, there were several blog posts. A couple were by me and a few by others to help give an overview of the conference and its goings on. Here's a quick list: A couple from me: http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/29/utosc-2008-day-1/ http://fedoratutorials.com/2008/08/30/utosc-2008-day-2/ A couple from Paul: http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1147 http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1143 >From others, possibly related to Fedora: http://www.fozzilinymoo.org/Fozzolog/2008/08/utosc-day-1.html http://testopia.blogspot.com/2008/09/utosc-2008.html http://pyrous.net/blog/?p=14 http://blog.endpoint.com/2008/08/camps-presentation-at-utosc-2008.html We also have tons of pictures up on our flickr page: http://flickr.com/groups/utosc/pool/

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Fedora Event in Sri Lanka
by Danishka Navin 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

Folks, Again we got an invitation from National Institute of Education Sri Lanka. This is the second fedora event @ NIE https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SriLanka/NIE2 Another one for North Western Provincial Teachers https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SriLanka/NWprovince Regards, -- Danishka Navin http://danishkanavin.blogspot.com (use Sinhala Unicode fonts)

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NA Ambassadors Meeting 2008-09-03 IRC Log
by inode0 08 Sep '08

08 Sep '08

(08:01:01 PM) ke4qqq: time to start, roll call (08:01:12 PM) pcalarco: PascalCalarco (08:01:30 PM) iWolf: JeffreyTadlock (08:01:49 PM) ***DemonJester here (08:02:05 PM) quaid: [[User:Kwade|Karsten Wade]] ;-P (08:02:25 PM) DemonJester: BrianPowell, sorry.... (08:02:37 PM) ke4qqq: don't know if that works within pre tags, does it? (08:03:30 PM) ke4qqq: alright - I suppose others will filter in as we progress - iWolf anything to report from FAmSCo? (08:04:02 PM) iWolf: We did meet last week. Pretty much covered the budget which is posted to the ambassadors list. (08:04:16 PM) iWolf: talked a little bit about the various regions and what they are up to. (08:04:25 PM) iWolf: nothing earth shattering. (08:05:03 PM) ke4qqq: ok any feedback on our "plan" for media? (08:05:35 PM) iWolf: it should be a go - seems like we are seeing how this release goes with the regions handling it. if its a success, we'll stick with it. (08:06:08 PM) ke4qqq: ok - well talk more about media shortly.... (08:06:25 PM) ke4qqq: suppose it's now time for the task list - (08:07:03 PM) ke4qqq: unless someone has an objection I think I'll put the "Contacting" one to bed. (08:07:20 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: available to talk about Ambkit and evbox? (08:07:28 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: sure (08:09:47 PM) ***ke4qqq waits (08:10:19 PM) ***DemonJester hears crickets and bullfrogs ;-) (08:10:37 PM) inode0: chirp (08:10:45 PM) DemonJester: lol (08:11:32 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: what would you like to discuss? (08:11:40 PM) ke4qqq: ambassador kit and eventbox (08:11:44 PM) ke4qqq: and if there are any updates (08:11:48 PM) ***herlo was unsure that we were already starting :) (08:11:53 PM) herlo: sorry (08:12:09 PM) herlo: so here's the plan with eventbox (08:12:32 PM) herlo: I'm working right now to find a good shipping box. Once I find something that can hold the following: (08:13:16 PM) herlo: Banners - 5 or 6 (2 fedora banners, 4 f's) (08:13:31 PM) herlo: the 5 is for the current ifv themee (08:13:40 PM) herlo: about 50-75 tshirts of all sizes (08:13:53 PM) herlo: 200-300 bits of Media (08:14:09 PM) herlo: maybe some hard signs for usb creation station (08:14:19 PM) herlo: stickers and usb sticks (08:14:44 PM) inode0: ! (08:14:48 PM) herlo: I've heard discussion of lcd screens though I don't feel that's necessary (08:14:55 PM) herlo: and 1 OLPC (08:14:59 PM) herlo: inode0: shoot (08:15:29 PM) inode0: we have requests pending with two Fedora sponsors for small laptops for usb creation stations (08:15:45 PM) inode0: I submitted a project proposal to OLPC this week (08:15:53 PM) ke4qqq: inode0: I have an update on dell when you are done (08:15:55 PM) inode0: for 1 XO per box (08:16:08 PM) herlo: inode0: like eeepc?? (08:16:13 PM) herlo: for the usbcreation? (08:16:16 PM) inode0: that moved from pending to approved but I honestly don't know what that means yet (08:16:38 PM) ke4qqq: outstanding!!! (08:16:56 PM) inode0: my inquiry was about HP mini-notes (08:17:03 PM) inode0: ke4qqq: fill us in (08:17:06 PM) herlo: inode0: okay, those'll work (08:17:31 PM) herlo: well, I still need to talk about ambkits, but its pretty simple (08:17:43 PM) herlo: however, I think the eventbox discussion hasn't concluded (08:17:46 PM) inode0: just a second please (08:17:48 PM) ke4qqq: I asked Matt Domsch @ dell for 4 of their new mini-inspirons as well - the current status is that no one has funding ie a no, but he said he is still scrounging around (08:17:56 PM) ke4qqq: go ahead herlo (08:18:07 PM) inode0: one more question about event boxes (08:18:12 PM) herlo: shoot (08:18:28 PM) inode0: if these are floating boxes how do we plan to replenish them? (08:18:49 PM) herlo: easy (08:18:57 PM) herlo: each time we ship them, we fill them (08:19:21 PM) inode0: I thought we ship them once and the recipient ships them to their next destination? (08:19:27 PM) herlo: so, I just bought 55 tshirts plus some pins and what not (08:19:37 PM) herlo: inode0: right (08:19:38 PM) herlo: but (08:19:46 PM) herlo: we gave away all our shirts (08:19:50 PM) herlo: save 15-20 (08:20:05 PM) herlo: I still have a few dollars left and about a month of time before the OLF comes (08:20:22 PM) herlo: I can have another 55 printed and shipped here or there, whichever is cheaper (08:20:32 PM) herlo: well, not another 55, but still some (08:21:00 PM) herlo: does this make sense? (08:21:04 PM) inode0: not really (08:21:31 PM) inode0: are the OLF people expected to refill the box out of their budget? (08:21:43 PM) herlo: inode0: to a point (08:21:49 PM) quaid: "whatever is leftover from the event + these standard items are shipped to the next event; the next event orders more $stuff to replenish based on incoming inventory." (08:22:10 PM) herlo: quaid: agreed, but I have a few extra dollars (08:22:26 PM) herlo: the other part is that if you have money left over, you should use it to replenish the box... (08:22:27 PM) iWolf: i think things will get confusing pretty quickly. (08:22:42 PM) herlo: so everyone hang on... (08:22:45 PM) iWolf: i would be more apt if i were herlo to contribute the extra money to the media fund to get us to the min. order. (08:22:57 PM) ke4qqq: +1 (08:23:00 PM) herlo: iWolf: not a bad idea (08:23:21 PM) herlo: here's the thing. Its like $100 over the shipping costs I'm about to incur. (08:23:29 PM) herlo: so I ship an empty box? (08:23:36 PM) herlo: I mean its not completely empty (08:23:49 PM) herlo: probably weighs about 5-7lbs right now (08:24:00 PM) herlo: iWolf loads it up with t's and such (08:24:06 PM) herlo: and gives them out (08:24:16 PM) herlo: then he sends it on again? (08:24:22 PM) herlo: is that what I'm hearing? (08:25:03 PM) iWolf: when i've thought event box, i've never included swag in the event box. (08:25:08 PM) herlo: I was just adding that, simply put, if you have a few extra dollars, add something. T's, stickers, whatever. (08:25:15 PM) iWolf: i've thought of it more as a "booth in a box". (08:25:33 PM) iWolf: as that booth bit is a lot of work that gets repeated that doesn't really need to get repeated. (08:25:34 PM) herlo: well, then we need to completely rethink whats currently inside (08:25:41 PM) inode0: I was thinking fixed stuff for the booth that never leaves our control, just goes from booth to booth (08:25:53 PM) inode0: but swag is a plus if it can be managed I think (08:25:54 PM) herlo: because the only thing currently in there is a banner or two and the ifv signs (08:26:05 PM) iWolf: if we ship large amounts of t's in the box we end up potentially paying shipping costs twice for the same t-shirts. (08:26:20 PM) herlo: iWolf: +1 (08:26:26 PM) herlo: but stickers/pins are light (08:27:03 PM) iWolf: yeah, and they would fit in easily. (08:27:18 PM) herlo: yep (08:27:22 PM) herlo: k, so revision then (08:27:25 PM) iWolf: and if I had a t-shirt or two left from an event and they fit, then sending them on would be fine. (08:27:34 PM) herlo: sure, that's what I'll be doing (08:27:38 PM) iWolf: just not sure I would make it a requirement to restock the box. (08:27:48 PM) herlo: not a requirement, just a suggestion (08:27:59 PM) herlo: but it sounds like refills are better with stickers or pins (08:28:46 PM) iWolf: yeah, light weight and easy to fit into the space available as the event box nears completion. (08:28:47 PM) herlo: so here's my new version of EventBox (08:28:55 PM) herlo: lets call it EventBox .02 (08:28:58 PM) herlo: :) (08:29:16 PM) herlo: Small Durable, Plastic Box (08:29:33 PM) herlo: probably 12x24x8 (08:29:38 PM) herlo: included inside (08:29:40 PM) herlo: Banners (08:29:46 PM) herlo: Network Cable (08:29:47 PM) ianweller_afk is now known as ianweller (08:29:49 PM) herlo: XO (08:30:01 PM) herlo: Mini USB Creation Station (possibly) (08:30:22 PM) herlo: Laminated Creation Station Sign (08:30:34 PM) herlo: Leftover SWAG (08:30:42 PM) herlo: EOB (08:30:44 PM) herlo: thoughts ?? (08:31:20 PM) ke4qqq: add a wap/router running free/oss firmware (08:31:24 PM) quaid: + wifi (08:31:35 PM) inode0: are there some other common needs? tape, table cloth, etc.? (08:31:56 PM) ke4qqq: ohhhh yeah - table cloth....gaffers tape.... (08:31:57 PM) iWolf: there used to be a fedora tablecloth, we had it at OLF last year - is it still around - it was quite nice. (08:32:04 PM) iWolf: and expensive. (08:32:10 PM) quaid: iWolf: "gone" I think (08:32:28 PM) herlo: me thinks so as well (08:32:37 PM) ***ke4qqq thinks so as well (08:32:40 PM) iWolf: quaid: that's unfortunate, i think Max bought that just before OLF as it was shpped straight to my house for OLF last year. (08:32:43 PM) herlo: I don't think you will need gaffers tape or tablecloths (08:32:49 PM) quaid: perhaps with the banner from FUDCon Boston 2008 (08:33:07 PM) quaid: +tape (08:33:10 PM) quaid: + pens, scissors (08:33:30 PM) quaid: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox#Suggested_contents_of_t… (08:33:38 PM) quaid: +anything on that list not already mentioned (08:34:59 PM) herlo: pens, scissors, etc yes (08:35:09 PM) herlo: quaid: yes, I've been looking at that (08:35:15 PM) herlo: except I think its a bit over the top (08:35:30 PM) quaid: ha ha! (08:35:30 PM) inode0: actually could we perhaps make that list a signup sheet for contributors? (08:35:34 PM) quaid: well,I disagree :D (08:35:46 PM) quaid: that is, one could rely upon Ambassadors to supply tape, scissors, etc. (08:35:47 PM) inode0: I could kick in some of that easily (08:36:09 PM) quaid: inode0: right, add it when the box comes in (08:36:23 PM) quaid: herlo: but then it's not "event in a box" (08:36:26 PM) quaid: it (08:36:29 PM) herlo: lol (08:36:38 PM) quaid: it's "event in a box, just add water, scissors,tape..." (08:36:44 PM) herlo: last I checked, its not an 'Event in a box' (08:37:10 PM) herlo: its EventBox, used for major events or conferences that should already provide much of these things on the list (08:37:33 PM) herlo: we should plan for emergencies, yes. (08:37:45 PM) herlo: but we shouldn't bring things we can get at a local convenience store (08:37:53 PM) herlo: for $5-10 (08:38:21 PM) quaid: I've yet to be at an event that already provided anything more than a table and two chairs (08:38:32 PM) herlo: really? (08:38:35 PM) quaid: yep (08:38:36 PM) EvilBob: 5-10 becomes 25-50 really fast at a C store (08:38:36 PM) herlo: no power? (08:38:40 PM) quaid: ok, power (08:38:43 PM) quaid: sometimes ethernet (08:38:48 PM) quaid: carpet (08:38:55 PM) herlo: sure, I don't argue the need for wires (08:38:59 PM) herlo: as in cat5 (08:39:08 PM) herlo: but power should be there, and a basic booth (08:39:15 PM) iWolf: power strips should be included in the box though. (08:39:24 PM) quaid: herlo: so everyone should have a set of what? it seems cheaper to have a set in the middle, are you thinking of shipping weight? (08:39:33 PM) herlo: k, hold on again (08:39:35 PM) inode0: event at FUDcon Boston there was a mad scramble for an extension cord and power strip (08:39:38 PM) herlo: I'm talking scissors, tape, etc (08:39:45 PM) herlo: not power cords, ethernet cords (08:40:05 PM) herlo: sure we can have one set of scissors in there, but if they get lost, oh well... (08:40:06 PM) ***quaid has tried to open those stupid USB plastic wrappingdododders without scissors before, oy vey! (08:40:09 PM) iWolf: i'd include tape and scissors as well, the goal being make it as easy for an ambassador as posible. (08:40:44 PM) herlo: I guess what I'm not getting is why we need heavy duty extension cordes (08:40:54 PM) herlo: an lcd monitor seems excessive to me (08:41:12 PM) herlo: maybe a router, but most conferences have wireless (08:41:22 PM) iWolf: OLF doesn't. (08:41:25 PM) quaid: my experience is most often crappy wireless (08:41:27 PM) iWolf: no ethernet connection either. (08:41:35 PM) inode0: I'd say forget the monitor and shuttle, hope we get mini-notes or something similar (08:41:46 PM) herlo: wow! (08:41:47 PM) quaid: and there is a need for a local hub, why not $15 more for wireless? (08:41:53 PM) iWolf: and OLF says - there's an outlet, no power strip, no extention cord, noghtin. (08:42:00 PM) quaid: sure, notebooks have LCD so it's all one (08:42:12 PM) herlo: you mean to tell me there won't be internet at a large event of 1000+ people? (08:42:20 PM) iWolf: inode0: agreed, if we get the mini-notes that would be fine. (08:42:20 PM) quaid: OSCON, LWCE very similar (08:42:23 PM) herlo: that's amazing to me (08:42:26 PM) quaid: herlo: yes, and 1000+ people using it (08:42:29 PM) iWolf: herlo: nope. (08:42:30 PM) inode0: keyboard/mouse can go then too (08:42:43 PM) quaid: herlo: so at LWCE we got one drop for _all_ of the .org pavilion (08:42:47 PM) herlo: quaid: sure, we just had an event of 400+ no outages, slower than normal, but worked well (08:42:51 PM) inode0: I do think an extension cord and power strip are good to have (08:42:55 PM) quaid: fortunately Etherboot was there with tons of equipment (08:42:55 PM) herlo: quaid: well, okay (08:42:59 PM) iWolf: herlo: its held at a convention center, which means union folks have to "hook it up" which translates to around $1000+ to turn it on. (08:43:00 PM) quaid: so we could actually *run* stuff at the booth (08:43:01 PM) herlo: I guess I'll have to rethink that sort of thing (08:43:13 PM) quaid: iWolf: +1 yep, per drop (08:43:16 PM) ***herlo now hates unions :) (08:43:24 PM) herlo: okay, not really... (08:43:27 PM) quaid: eh, out of context :) (08:44:00 PM) herlo: okay, I'm convinced (08:44:02 PM) herlo: moving on (08:44:36 PM) herlo: I'll try to buy something that will fit most of this stuff then and get it shipped out late sept... (08:46:03 PM) ke4qqq: ok any movement on kit? (08:46:38 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: I've been running a conference for about 3 weeks (yes, it was only 3 days, but still busy) so nope sorry (08:46:41 PM) herlo: :( (08:46:49 PM) ***herlo wishes he was more capable... (08:46:50 PM) ke4qqq: no need to apologize (08:47:08 PM) ke4qqq: lets talk about media (08:47:10 PM) herlo: though I got a final price on media (08:47:16 PM) herlo: $.0576 (08:47:17 PM) ke4qqq: how awesome (08:47:18 PM) herlo: er (08:47:20 PM) herlo: .576 (08:47:28 PM) herlo: each, including printing (08:47:32 PM) herlo: sleeves and all (08:47:33 PM) ke4qqq: shipping? (08:47:43 PM) herlo: they're local to utah iirc (08:48:00 PM) inode0: lot size? (08:48:02 PM) ***herlo is looking for the email now (08:48:06 PM) herlo: 3k (08:48:07 PM) ke4qqq: will they do a single run of 3k? (08:48:10 PM) herlo: yes (08:49:25 PM) inode0: nice in the long run - consumes more than 1/3 of this quarter's budget (08:49:32 PM) herlo: yep, local (08:49:34 PM) ke4qqq: ok - so essentially our plan is to try and get money from all of the event runners in Q3 to piece together a single 3k order for x86 livecds (08:49:45 PM) herlo: right (08:49:47 PM) EvilBob: I used to use a place called niche stuff in California, not sure if they are still around, they were cheap back in the day (08:50:08 PM) EvilBob: And quality was great (08:50:40 PM) herlo: the guy I'm working with used to be a CD media broker and would go around to all the creation houses and get the best prices (08:50:45 PM) ke4qqq: so I am ready to fork over about 90% of my event's money for media - since I already have F9 media. (08:50:45 PM) herlo: he's worked with these guys before (08:51:21 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: right, do you need more? I can send some along in the event box. I think I still have about 200. I realistically only need 100 at most (08:51:22 PM) inode0: .576 seems a very good price (08:51:44 PM) herlo: 3000*.576 (08:51:45 PM) herlo: 1728.000 (08:51:52 PM) ***herlo loves bc (08:52:10 PM) ke4qqq: herlo: I am ok, but OLF will probably welcome them (08:52:24 PM) herlo: that's the total cost. I don't have much money left in my budget, but there's a few dollars for next quarter (08:52:37 PM) ke4qqq: Q3 started yesterday (08:52:44 PM) herlo: oh, right (08:52:48 PM) herlo: this quarter (08:54:16 PM) herlo: k, anything else? (08:54:37 PM) ke4qqq: nope (08:54:41 PM) ke4qqq: iWolf: FAD (08:56:20 PM) iWolf: I would out of town the last few days and have nothing to report. (08:56:39 PM) ***kulll wiggles (08:56:48 PM) ke4qqq: ok - we have several people who volunteered to write blog posts (08:56:53 PM) ke4qqq: 2 have stepped forward (08:57:03 PM) ianweller: blog posts about what? (08:57:04 PM) ke4qqq: I also have 2 who still remain for me to get on the planet (08:57:06 PM) ke4qqq: FAD (08:57:17 PM) ianweller: oic (08:57:36 PM) inode0: ! for ian (08:58:12 PM) inode0: would you be willing to share ideas on how Fedora might reach more high school students? (08:58:27 PM) inode0: are there particular things we might offer to do at/with high schools? (08:58:56 PM) ianweller: inode0: you're definitely going to want to try and find the high schools with the tech departments that aren't full of nitwits in bed with microsoft. (08:58:58 PM) ***herlo will blog about it soon (08:58:59 PM) ***inode0 doesn't mean to hijack conversation - can be tabled for later (08:58:59 PM) ***ianweller never said that ;) (08:59:12 PM) ianweller: inode0: in other words, not my school district (08:59:20 PM) ke4qqq: musts/coulds/shoulds (08:59:27 PM) ke4qqq: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NorthAmerica/Expectations (08:59:38 PM) ianweller: inode0: but that would definitely be interesting (08:59:41 PM) ke4qqq: would like to move this out of draft now - people have beat on it for a few weeks (08:59:44 PM) ke4qqq: thoughts? (08:59:52 PM) inode0: sorry, the one thing on my list I blew off this week (08:59:59 PM) herlo: ke4qqq: I think its at a good point (09:00:11 PM) herlo: and we should start marketing it around to other ambassadors for opinions (09:00:25 PM) herlo: especially those doing things *not* particularly visible (09:01:02 PM) ke4qqq: ok - I'll send a post to the mailing list and strip that from todos. (09:01:12 PM) ke4qqq: pcalarco: polos? (09:01:18 PM) inode0: I have no further objection to it - but I did plan to make some changes ... (09:01:43 PM) pcalarco: yes, we have another order for 9 more order going to the vendor thurs. (09:01:52 PM) ke4qqq: well it's not written in stone. (09:02:08 PM) ke4qqq: anyone want to step up and blog about this?? DemonJester?? (09:02:28 PM) DemonJester: the should/could/woulds? (09:02:41 PM) ke4qqq: no polos (09:03:00 PM) DemonJester: oh.. sure I will get something out for that.. (09:03:05 PM) ke4qqq: outstanding (09:03:20 PM) pcalarco: actually 11, i just looked at the wiki (09:03:43 PM) inode0: is vwbusguy on the list? (09:04:09 PM) pcalarco: no (09:04:09 PM) ke4qqq: yes think so (09:04:22 PM) ***ke4qqq is thinking of the wrong list (09:05:25 PM) inode0: link handy? (09:05:37 PM) pcalarco: so that will be a total of 16 different NA Ambassadors with polos when this is complete (09:06:03 PM) inode0: pcalarco: do you have the link to the list handy? (09:06:07 PM) ***herlo has a polo :) (09:06:15 PM) pcalarco: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA#Fedora_Ambassador_Polo_Shirts_… (09:06:16 PM) herlo: from the last round (09:06:22 PM) ke4qqq: lets blog this so that it gets as much visibility as possible. (09:06:37 PM) herlo: so two things to blog (09:06:47 PM) EvilBob: Can one get a polo that does not say "ambassagor" on it? (09:06:47 PM) pcalarco: I can add the first round of folk to the page (09:07:13 PM) herlo: FAD and Polos, it seems those are a good post together (09:07:25 PM) inode0: the order goes out thursday - we need to touch base with your fellow hoosier (09:07:39 PM) ke4qqq: hmmm +1 - perhaps we ought to make the price of admission to FAD a blog post about it ahead of time :) (09:08:43 PM) pcalarco: inode0: which one? (09:09:10 PM) inode0: Scott - he has wanted one for a long time, I'll hunt him down ASAP (09:09:17 PM) herlo: wait, there's an admission cost for FAD? (09:09:25 PM) ke4qqq: it was in jest (09:09:32 PM) herlo: I thought it was just OLF that had a cost. (09:09:33 PM) herlo: oh... (09:09:36 PM) herlo: :) (09:09:52 PM) ke4qqq: sorry - forgot emoticons and that my sarcasm doesn't bleed through. (09:11:06 PM) ***quaid bails to dinner ... (09:11:21 PM) ke4qqq: thanks quaid (09:11:26 PM) ke4qqq: alright anything else to discuss? (09:12:39 PM) ke4qqq: ok hearing nothing we'll adjourn in 30 (09:12:49 PM) ke4qqq: 20 (09:12:57 PM) ke4qqq: 10 (09:13:04 PM) ke4qqq: 5 (09:13:10 PM) ke4qqq: we're adjourned

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REMINDER French Meeting today 1830 #fedora-meeting
by Thomas Canniot 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

This mail is a reminder for today´s meeting for French ambassadors and _every_ interested people. 2008-09-07 / 18:30 UTC IRC: freenode #fedora-meeting Ce mail est un rappel pour la réunion des ambassadeurs francophones, qui aura lieu ce dimanche (7 sept.) à 20h30 heure de Paris sur IRC (freenode) #fedora-meeting . L'ordre du jour est disponible depuis cette page : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/FrenchTeam/Reunions N'hésitez pas à la modifier pour rajouter des sujets qui vous semblent intéressants. Thomas Canniot

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Hello everyone
by gaurav taywade 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

Hi, My self Gaurav Taywade I am Computer engineer,i am using fedora from last 6 years.i am very much crazy about open source.i have also published a paper on "identifying clones in Linux kernels" in various national level competitions.i often visit fedora web site for downloading latest versions of fedora.my interest is specially in networking using Linux.i am also doing my RHCE certifications,i have also formed Linux user group in my college and my hometown. i am here to give my contribution in Fedora project. I Would Like to offer any Help at my level... -- Gaurav Taywade

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fudcon brno reports
by Max Spevack 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

There are a *huge* number of FUDCon Brno reports that are consistently appearing on different blogs on Planet Fedora. Rather than paste all the links in here, I'll just ask people to go read Planet. It's a great event, so far.

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APAC ambassadors meeting.
by susmit shannigrahi 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

It has been a long time we had a meeting for this region. Any taker? -- Regards, Susmit. ============================================= ssh 0x86DD170A http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/user:susmit =============================================

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Hello everyone
by Gabriel PREDA 07 Sep '08

07 Sep '08

Hi to all ambassadors, I have been playing in high-school with linux... >From 2000 it became my job... After 8 years I still like to work with Fedora... After all it is a good thing to like what you're doing and to do what you like. I'm a web developer from Bucharest (Romania - Europe) mainly developing high availability web applications taking for grant a setup with Fedora as OS for the server. I'm a heavy user of BIND, Apache, LigHTTPD, Sendmail, PHP, MySQL, Memcached, and all web development related stuff... I also use Fedora to setup Samba servers as Primary Domain Controllers for small and medium size companies. I want to expose more Fedora to Romania. I have a lot of ideas to enforce the strong Fedora user base. (It remains to be seen how much time I will find for this... although I think with every customer I already did a lot... and i'll continue doing it...) I would also like to get involved in: Distribution, Internationalization (L10n & i18n), Marketing and probably News and Translation. I'm very sure I will add value to the Fedora Ambassadors Project and I'm convinced that results will be noticeable... Gabriel PREDA -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Certified MySQL Associate Certified Zend Engineer Senior Web Developer -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --

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