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The Fedora-Red Hat Crisis
by Tarek Taha 13 Sep '08

13 Sep '08

http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/osrc/article.php/3770216/The+Fedora-Red+Ha…

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Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur
by Rishikesh Sharma 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

Hi All, I am planning to organize one Fedora 10 Release Party and Install Fest at Imphal, Manipur, India on December 7, 2008. This will be my first project as ambassador in my region. I hope this event will turn out to be a mega success since this fest will be the first of its kind in Manipur. This event is definetly going to boost the awarness for Fedora Linux in Manipur. The main highlight of the event will be distribution and release of Fedora 10, Demo and Live installation of Fedora 10. The duration of the event will be for 1 day only. I have put up this event on the event wiki. I will be also uploading the details regarding the event on the wiki very soon. So, i need support from all of you to make this event a grand success. I will also try my level best to make this event a mega event. Regards, Rishikesh Sharma Fedora Ambassador Imphal, Manipur, India.

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Event Report: University of South Carolina - School of Technology Support and Training Management
by David Nalley 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

Quick event report from today: A bit of background - At the Palmetto Open Source Software Conference I met a professor at the University of South Carolina who had been having some of her classes do documentation for OpenOffice.org among other projects. I talked with her and suggested that Fedora was a natural fit for her class since the project was large enough to be significant, and also our release cycles were such that students could see some fruit to their work before a semester ended and they left the class. She seemed excited about the potential, and invited me to speak. I arrived and talked a bit with the professor before class started, and she dropped a bombshell on me, that she had 'assigned' 4 students to work on fp.o docs. Apparently these were students who were technically competent, and excited and actually asked to work on writing Linux documentation when they heard of the opportunity. Two of the students have used Fedora for varying lengths of time. I ran through a quick introduction to Fedora and Open Source in general and showed off the OLPC XO (which incidentally I had to 'rent' for this occasion, but have no fear, I understand the NA Ambassadors are going to be allocated some in the not too distant future) I passed the unit around and it received lots of oohs and aahs. I handed out LiveCDs to each person at the event. I answered questions for about 30 minutes, and then the prof. introduced me to the 4 students and suggested I talk about what projects were available for them to work on. Quaid has been working on a list of tasks for docs projects - so I proposed all of those - and then they asked me if we were doing videos/screencasts as well. I showed them some of the Fedora TV listings and pointed them to [[Screencasting]] After reviewing the tasks they seem to like the "Bugzilla for New Users" idea, and might do a screencast to go along with the document. We also talked about potential OLPC documentation projects - but honestly I need to get a list of those tasks from Greg. In addition to those 4, there was one more student who wasn't in the class, but heard that I was coming and showed up to listen. I am going to work on getting him involved as well, though not necessarily with docs. There were also 3 other professors who came to listen about this 'newfangled F/LOSS thing'. Overall I think it was a success - she's limited the group to 4 students this semester just to see how it works - but last semester it appears that 1/2 of her class did OO.o docs - so we can certainly grow this. After the class was over I talked with the professor a bit more and we talked about educational theory - and she is of the opinion that education in general is drifting away from the theory over experience model. She also said that a significant problem in education is that teachers don't know technology even when it is vital to their ability to successfully educate, and students are passing them by. I told her that we had recently discussed finding a way of having some sort of educator training to expose teachers to the latest and greatest in technology and open source and how it benefits them, and why they should embrace it. She then informed me that she sits on the board for the South Carolina Business Educators Association which involves high school and college instructors. She asked me if I was interested in speaking at their annual conference in February and exposing some of these things to their members. She indicated that she'd work to get me a speaking slot, but of course can't act alone. So we'll see how that turns out. As it turns out she did her doctoral thesis on community interactions within education - and she said that what was visible from the outside of Fedora was fascinating and that it might make an interesting study at some point in the future. At the end of the day we should have at least 4 new contributors (at least for a semester) and we certainly have an opportunity to grow that, both with the students now and those in the future. Blog posting with pictures will be forthcoming, but it might be tomorrow before it gets pushed out.

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More thoughts on the education process and new contributors in general
by David Nalley 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

http://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~budd/419/ I have reread this web page sent to me by Tim Budd at OSU about 3-4 times now and think that you should as well. Many of his reasons why students should get involved in OSS I share and have heard and echoed - though not quite as concisely or elegantly. Perhaps this is better suited for the f-mentors list, but I'll toss it out here as I think it's equally applicable to us, as we are constantly dealing with potential and new contributors. Please take a look specifically at the Merit Badge section of the above page. I think that we should implement such a roadmap for new contributors. If we get someone excited about Fedora and they want to help - we should treat them like a student - who is going to have a varied skillset - and that there should be a defined set of things that they work through. I am not talking about signing up for a FAS account or sending an introduction email to the list - though that needs to be there. I am also not suggesting that this be mandatory But how about - brand new contributors - they join - they desperately look for something to do - the potentially flail about IRC and mailing lists announcing their presence and availability - and I'd guess a good portion of the time they fall by the wayside. There are some universal things that contributors need to know/understand/grok. They need to understand bugzilla - they need to read bugs, file bugs, what makes a bug complete and see the workflow - so lets let them do some bug triage - it's relatively easy. So we say work on 50 bugs and come back to the next task - gardening the wiki - learning how to add content, structure, and cleaning up 20 or so pages. etc etc. If they find something they love doing - let them jump off of the track there and do that until/if they get ready to do more. Every company, when it takes in new employees has (or should have) an orientation process. While I don't think that we should make it mandatory - I think that if a new user comes along and says I want to get involved - where do I start - we need to have an answer. I know lmacken is working on some task queueing stuff for new contributors and that may obsolete the above idea, but it is a problem I perceive. Thoughts, comments, flames?

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Re: Re: [Ambassadors] F10 Release Parties preparatory meeting
by sathish m babu 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

hi i m new to fedora ambassadors project and i hav to know what to do for this release party i m willing to invlove in this M.Sathish Babu

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deadline RFC: Talk proposal for Computer-Using Educators Conference
by Karsten Wade 12 Sep '08

12 Sep '08

We just got an eye on this today and the deadline is tomorrow. I thought it was worth putting in for a ''concurrent session''. This is in Palm Springs, CA on 5 to 7 March 2009, and the talk can be a panel. If you are interested[1] in collaborating on the proposal and/or presentation ... http://www.cue.org/conference/present Going to this event is part of getting with/in front of educators as peers/collaborators rather than vendors/hucksters. :) The deadline for 1 hour talks and 20 minute tips is tomorrow. I think it's only worth it to do a concurrent session, which is the full hour. Here is where we can work on the proposal text: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/CUE_Conf_2009_proposal_draft Let's collaborate, either here, via the wiki, or via IRC (#fedora-ambassadors.) For a safe margin, let's set a deadline of 1900 UTC Friday. I am going to need to finish my part by ~1500 UTC. Interested? Thoughts? - Karsten [1] I'm thinking primarily of NA Ambassadors in the Western region, such as the Bay Area, Southern California, or crazy folk from farther who just like to travel. A single car of us from the Yay Area could be a fair fare. That's also pretty close to SCALE 7x, which we need a separate thread about. :) -- Karsten Wade, Sr. Developer Community Mgr. Dev Fu : http://developer.redhatmagazine.com Fedora : http://quaid.fedorapeople.org gpg key : AD0E0C41

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Self-Introduction: Steven Moix
by Steven Moix 11 Sep '08

11 Sep '08

Hi all, This may be somewhat of a double post for the ones also on the Fedora Marketing SIG list. So have a look at https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-marketing-list/2008-September/msg000… for my introduction. Why join the ambassador team: As pointed out on the Marketing SIG mailinglist, I want to raise Fedora awareness on the French web. Besides that, there is something to be done in my university and that's why I joined as an ambassador. My needs should be quite low, probably some DVDs and Posters. Any comments? PS: I'm also on the fedora-fr-list Have a nice day Steven Moix https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/StevenMoix

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It too big to be killed
by Leo Jackson 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

I have watched fedora since 11/2003. I have been using Linux since Richard Stallman GNU project 1984 he is the father of these comparison systems , Linus Torvalds 1991 and the main kernel this will never die this is the core and Linus is the father of the kernel. Just to fore say purpose. If red hat said well I want to cancel fedora due to what ever reason. Just think about SUSE, OPENSUSE etc. Fedora with all the followers it has would separate and still grow. Linux just doesn't die. Leo Albert Jackson Jr Owner Head Programmer LJ's Electronics and Software

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The mailing list etiquette , a presentation
by Kushal Das 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

Hi all, People should try to follow this: http://www.shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/presentations/mailing-list-etiquet… Kushal -- Fedora Ambassador, India http://kushaldas.in http://dgplug.org (Linux User Group of Durgapur)

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FAMNA Meeting Minutes from 2008-09-09
by Clint Savage 10 Sep '08

10 Sep '08

19:01 -!- herlo changed the topic of #fedora-meeting to: Fedora Ambassadors North America Meeting -- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2008-09-09 -- Begins 19:01 < herlo> anyone here? 19:02 * lcafiero plays the role of Larry Cafiero 19:02 * DemonJester -> BrianPowell present 19:02 < lcafiero> Wasn't sure I was in the right place. 19:02 * ianweller lurkificates 19:04 * herlo will wait a moment or two 19:04 * DemonJester goes to grab a beer then :-) 19:05 < herlo> k 19:05 < lcafiero> Grab me one DemonJester 19:05 * herlo wants a Sierra Nevada 19:06 < herlo> ianweller: that kinda sounds gross 19:07 * DemonJester passes lcafiero a virtual cold one 19:07 < herlo> unless its like pontificates, which then I can live with it 19:07 < ianweller> it's like pontificates 19:07 < ianweller> ;) 19:07 < herlo> okay, whew! 19:07 < lcafiero> Heh. 19:08 < herlo> anyone know where ke4qqq is? I thought he'd be here 19:08 * herlo moves we start the meeting anyway 19:09 < herlo> First on the Agenda, as usual, tasks 19:09 < herlo> AmbassadorKit and EventBox 19:09 < herlo> AmbassadorKit is well defined I think, but EventBox had a lively discussion in #fedora-ambassadors a couple days ago 19:09 < herlo> any thoughts here? 19:10 < lcafiero> ! 19:10 < lcafiero> I missed that discussion. What was it about? 19:11 < herlo> well, the discussion wsa something to the effect of what would go into an EventBox 19:11 < lcafiero> Thanks. 19:11 * ke4qqq is late 19:11 < DemonJester> have we determined if we are going with the scaled down version as opposed to what was initially suggested? 19:11 < herlo> ke4qqq: welcome :) 19:11 < herlo> lcafiero: I wasn't done 19:12 < herlo> just wanted to start with something simple 19:12 < herlo> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/EventBox 19:12 < herlo> this might be useful to start 19:12 < herlo> but I think the box is a bit more than we really need 19:12 < ke4qqq> the box itself? 19:13 < herlo> things like an LCD monitor and mouse and keyboard are almost a waste of space 19:13 < herlo> ke4qqq: no, things inside... 19:13 * herlo decides to be more verbose 19:13 < herlo> the LCD monitor, what is this used for? 19:14 < DemonJester> I suppose the mini pc if included? 19:14 < herlo> well, when I think of mini pc, I think of laptop since that's a bit easier 19:14 < crossbytes> we are talking about the event box? 19:14 < herlo> one thought is to make the mini pc be something that we can show off and build LiveUSBs with 19:15 < herlo> the EeePC is great for this 19:15 < DemonJester> +1 19:15 < herlo> crossbytes: yes 19:15 < herlo> I like the Pelican 1610, its a bit cheaper than the 1660 and a bit smaller. Should fit banners and all pretty well 19:16 < crossbytes> I agree about the Eee PC 19:16 < herlo> its cheap too, getting a 7" model could even be less nowadays since the 9" and 10" models are out 19:17 * herlo looks on ebay 19:17 < ke4qqq> whatever is free is great as small. - we have 4 xos....and are working on 4 small minis 19:17 < lcafiero> ? 19:17 < ke4qqq> hp and dell are working to get us free mini-pcs like minimate and dell 910 19:18 < herlo> ke4qqq: good call 19:18 < ke4qqq> inode is working with HP 19:18 < herlo> $225 is the highest bid btw 19:18 < ke4qqq> I contacted Matt Domsch 19:18 < herlo> right 19:18 < ke4qqq> and he is working to get us 4 of the tiny ones 19:19 < ke4qqq> but no idea on what the timeline or if it will fall through or not 19:19 < herlo> sure 19:19 < herlo> I was thinking I might just donate mine to the event box as I build it 19:20 < herlo> I want to get a 1000 anyway 19:21 < herlo> so lets see, we want to slim down the box itself. I'd like to see the price of shipping never clear $100 19:21 < herlo> if we ship in a reasonable amount of time (2-3wks) it should never be more than $50 19:21 < herlo> so weight can be an issue anyway 19:21 < ke4qqq> slim down to what?? sorry for missing some of the meeting 19:22 < herlo> slim down the size of the box itself 19:22 < herlo> you only missed about 2 minutes 19:22 < herlo> the contents and the size of the box 19:22 < ke4qqq> to what pelican 19:22 < herlo> remove stuff that's heavy, like the LCD 19:23 < herlo> the pelican 1610 looks promising, its a bit smaller than the 1660 listed 19:24 < herlo> http://tinyurl.com/pelican1610 19:24 * ke4qqq runs to look 19:24 < herlo> http://tinyurl.com/pelican1660 19:25 < herlo> without foam its $160 19:25 < herlo> retail from the pelican store itself too 19:25 < ke4qqq> that's not bad 19:26 < herlo> yeah 19:27 < herlo> so that lowers the price quite a bit, and I think I can purchase one of those this weekend 19:27 < ke4qqq> if we can get the media money I might allocate some of that money from my events. 19:28 < herlo> nah, I'm just going to use the UTOSC 2008 money I have left over (and some of my own) to make this happen 19:28 < ke4qqq> cool! 19:28 < herlo> well, at least what I can 19:28 < herlo> but it should happen before I have to ship things to OLF 19:29 < herlo> iWolf: so when do I need to send this off to you btw? 19:29 < herlo> I also will be purchasing a couple small tubes for the fedora banners. These should easily fit in the eventbox 19:31 < herlo> okay, so any other thoughts? 19:31 < ke4qqq> I have some large 4 foot tall tubes for shipping 19:31 < ke4qqq> and perhaps others. 19:31 < herlo> too big, they need to fit into the Pelican 1610 :( 19:31 * ke4qqq makes note to task self to ask his marketing dept about that. 19:31 < ke4qqq> ahhhh ok 19:31 < ke4qqq> I though we had talked about shipping separately 19:31 < herlo> yeah, but it seems they aren't very big 19:31 < herlo> they currently fit in the box I have at home 19:31 < ke4qqq> ahhhh ok 19:32 < ke4qqq> outstanding 19:32 < herlo> its about the same size, I'll have to measure this weekend 19:32 < herlo> k, so it seems there's some good progress here 19:32 < herlo> pelican 1610 (probably) 19:32 < herlo> an XO and some small Lappy for making LiveUSBs 19:33 < ke4qqq> what else can we do to get this one jumpstarted for this one. 19:33 < herlo> Wireless Router and ethernet cables 19:33 < herlo> power strips 19:33 < herlo> ke4qqq: we need to find the fedora tablecloth or buy another one 19:33 < herlo> the fedora banners and posters will go in the box np 19:34 < herlo> hooks, pens, markers, any leftover swag. 19:34 < herlo> do we think this will all fit? 19:34 < herlo> basically, I want to remove items 5-8 from the current EventBox page 19:35 < ke4qqq> please do so. 19:35 < herlo> well, I think we need to build our own page, or create our own version for NA 19:36 < ke4qqq> is there a reason why?? 19:36 < ke4qqq> I mean the page as it is was stolen from gnome 19:36 < herlo> yes, because I think this is what EMEA currently uses 19:36 < herlo> I knew that too 19:37 < herlo> I mean, I'm happy to adjust the page, just don't want to change it if others are using it 19:37 < ke4qqq> when was it last modified? 19:38 < herlo> July this year by quaid 19:38 < herlo> looks like it wsa just created in May by iWolf 19:38 < herlo> oh wait 19:38 < herlo> haha, migration 19:39 < herlo> Fab made some chagnes in May too, might have been just formatting 19:39 < herlo> pretty much looks the same though 19:39 < ke4qqq> I say edit boldly 19:39 < herlo> and since there's no history before may, dunno 19:39 < herlo> k, will do 19:40 < herlo> moving forward, any complaints? 19:41 < DemonJester> looks / sounds good 19:41 < herlo> k, so moving forward 19:42 < herlo> AmbassadorKit now has a FUDCon F11 Boston Hackfest 19:42 * inode0 arrives late 19:42 < herlo> the idea is to have the Art folks help us a little to design a piece of paper that we can fold into a box 19:42 < ke4qqq> who is showing up from ART? 19:42 < herlo> as well as finalize the design of what it should look like when finished. 19:42 < ke4qqq> mizmo isn't 19:42 < herlo> ke4qqq: dunno 19:43 < herlo> ke4qqq: mizmo lives in Boston 19:43 < herlo> I'll go to her house and have her help me :) 19:43 < herlo> lol 19:43 < inode0> mizmo will be at FUDcon 19:43 < ke4qqq> ignore me I am thinking of olf 19:43 < herlo> ok 19:43 < herlo> whew 19:43 < herlo> but there will be others, tw2113 might be there 19:44 < ke4qqq> cool 19:45 < herlo> ianweller might be there, but it'll be tough for him 19:45 < ianweller> if someone pays for me to, i'll most likely go 19:45 < ianweller> ;) 19:46 < ianweller> tw2113 said it'll be hard for him to get to a boston fudcon 19:46 < herlo> yeah 19:46 < ianweller> herlo: i saw that hackfest, i'm quite interested. tee hee 19:46 < herlo> w00t! 19:46 < herlo> ianweller: we're gonna rock boston 19:46 * herlo has to figure out how to get there now 19:46 < ianweller> herlo: swim 19:47 < herlo> lol, from Utah? 19:47 < ianweller> YES. :P 19:47 < herlo> very little ocean or rivers from there in that direction, but I'll try :) 19:47 < ianweller> yeah you're on the west of the rockies, it'd be difficult 19:47 < herlo> so I think we plan on hacking all day on Friday and Sunday we go out and purchase some stuff in Boston to make what we need 19:48 < herlo> maybe we come up with the art, and send it to printers so on sunday we can test it out 19:48 * ianweller is thinking of a box design in his head already 19:48 < ianweller> how big is the box supposed to be? have we gotten that far yet? 19:48 < herlo> stickers and pins, tshirsts, etc can be added and maybe we could even find a shrink wrap place close by 19:48 < herlo> ianweller: yes, hang on, I'll find you a link 19:49 < ianweller> if we need we can substitute zip-loc baggies for shrink wrap. 19:49 < herlo> true 19:49 < herlo> hair dryers are in most hotels :) 19:50 < herlo> ianweller: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Artwork/DesignService#AmbassadorKit_Box 19:50 < herlo> its been sitting there for a while. I've not yet bugged Art but once about it 19:50 < herlo> more bugging to come in the near future :) 19:51 < herlo> okay, moving forward, already 50 minutes in 19:51 < ianweller> heh 19:51 < herlo> any objections? 19:52 * ianweller goes back to lurking 19:53 < herlo> FAMSCO mediea discussion, did this happen yet? 19:53 < herlo> s/iea/ia/ 19:53 < ke4qqq> think iwolf is pushing that forward 19:54 < herlo> k, I heard that we might be lower than .576 too, but not yet, so that number is solid though 19:54 < ke4qqq> but we essentially still need to come up with the money 19:54 < ke4qqq> substantially lower? 19:55 < herlo> well, when you are talking 3000 discs, .005 can make a big difference 19:55 < herlo> so maybe 19:55 < herlo> lets keep that one here for now though, $.576 19:55 < ke4qqq> k 19:55 < herlo> moving forward again, objections? 19:55 < herlo> Blogging about FAD and FAD planning 19:56 < herlo> I failed you all by not bloggin yet about FAd, I'll do that this coming week 19:56 < herlo> its probably not a bad idea to spread it out a little 19:56 < ke4qqq> we had some movement but not all of them - inode0 can you ping jtaber about that?? he still needs to get on the planet. 19:56 < ke4qqq> yep 19:56 < herlo> is there anything we need to do to help iWolf plan this event? 19:57 < lcafiero> I'm not on the planet yet either. 19:57 < ke4qqq> yes lcafiero you are on my list too 19:57 < herlo> well, we can solve that tonight lcafiero 19:57 < herlo> :) 19:57 < lcafiero> Says a lot for me . . . :-) 19:57 < ke4qqq> iWolf essentially wants us to run the thing 19:57 < herlo> k 19:57 < ke4qqq> since he will be busy with olf 19:57 < herlo> so we need an agenda and a plan for getting together thenright? 19:58 < ke4qqq> yep 19:58 < herlo> k, is there a wiki page on this? 19:58 < ke4qqq> yes 19:59 < herlo> ke4qqq: you, me and inode0 need to sit down this/next week and hammer this out then 19:59 < ke4qqq> ok will have do this later in the week 20:00 < ke4qqq> I am traveling tomorrow 20:00 < ke4qqq> perhaps thursday evening? 20:00 < herlo> thursday should work 20:00 < herlo> or we can do it next week too 20:01 < ke4qqq> inode0: ? 20:01 * inode0 busy again with family matters, sorry 20:01 < ke4qqq> ok next week then 20:01 < herlo> inode0: monday next week work for you? 20:01 < herlo> early evening probably 20:02 < herlo> ke4qqq: you too 20:04 < herlo> k, we'll table that 20:04 < herlo> moving on? 20:04 < ke4qqq> ok 20:05 < herlo> I think that's it for tasks, there's planet aggregation we already discussed, then I don't have any updates on the shipping policy, but will soon 20:05 < herlo> polos?? 20:06 < DemonJester> I havent received an invoice yet so I dont know if they were ordered last thurs or not. 20:06 < ke4qqq> pascal supposedly ordered on 9/4 20:06 < ke4qqq> neither have I 20:06 < DemonJester> he normally fronts the money up front and invoices later.. At least he did last order 20:07 < herlo> yep he did 20:07 < herlo> I got one and stickster said they look really nice 20:07 < herlo> he saw mine at UTOSC 20:07 < DemonJester> they are nice. 20:08 < herlo> yes they are 20:09 < ke4qqq> did larry talk about media? 20:09 < inode0> back, I can be available for FAD planning whenever - looking forward to it 20:10 < herlo> k, sounds godo 20:10 < herlo> k, open floor 20:10 < herlo> unless you guys wanna discuss the polos more 20:11 < herlo> I have a couple things 20:11 < DemonJester> I have a quick question after you are done 20:12 < herlo> k 20:12 < herlo> So here's my thoughts 20:12 < herlo> one is, what happened to the logging of the meetings? I know that ke4qqq asked me about a way to make the wiki create agenda templates for us, shouldn't be to hard I suppose 20:13 < herlo> I looked on the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings#Next_Meeting page , and nothign is there since early August 20:13 < herlo> we should really try to keep this info there, unless its stored elsewhere? 20:13 < inode0> I thought we were going to post logs to f-a-l and links to the archives on the meeting pages?! 20:13 < herlo> right 20:14 < herlo> but I don't see the links on the meeting pages 20:14 < herlo> nor do I see follow ups on the main meeting page itself that points to those meeting pages 20:14 < herlo> how are people to get to the meeting minutes if we don't have a link on the wiki? 20:14 < herlo> I'm not trying to criticize too much, just trying to solidify the process 20:15 < inode0> no, it would definitely be good to have links to the archives 20:15 < herlo> and if I am wrong, please beat me 20:15 < herlo> :) 20:15 < inode0> or post them both places to start with, either way 20:16 < DemonJester> I can go back and fix some of that later this week(end) and add the links etc if you want 20:16 < herlo> w00t thanks DemonJester 20:16 < herlo> I think that's really great 20:16 < herlo> okay, so the other thing is that we need to make sure to update the task list every week, no real biggie, but if someone would do that during the meeting ?? 20:16 < inode0> going forward let's just add that task to whoever posts them to the mailing list - simple enough 20:17 < herlo> k, sounds good 20:17 < herlo> what about the task list? or is that what you are referring? 20:17 < inode0> agreed, next report on task X is three weeks ago isn't good :) 20:18 < herlo> k, DemonJester you had something? 20:18 < DemonJester> yep 20:19 < inode0> my last comment was about putting the links on the meeting page in conjunction with sending the mail to f-a-l 20:19 < herlo> pls share 20:19 < herlo> inode0: great 20:19 < DemonJester> is there a specific place where we can get stickers from or do we get them printed locally ourself? 20:20 < herlo> this has been up for discussion many times, dont' think we have a decision except bf 20:20 < herlo> and I don't know thta they even have any 20:20 < DemonJester> okay I will check into local sources for what I need for now. 20:20 < inode0> I think the plan is to get a boatload printed - but it is slow going 20:21 < herlo> I think we shoudl put this on the task list actually 20:21 < DemonJester> wasnt the store sig for this type of thing? I havent seen any meetings about that though since I joined the group 20:21 < inode0> seems like I recall some marketing meetings where this has been discussed extensively 20:23 < DemonJester> thats all I had. 20:24 < herlo> DemonJester: store sig is mostly not going right now, but I hope to see that increase soon 20:24 < herlo> inode0: that's good to hear. I can't make those meetings as they are right in the middle of my work day (aka teaching) 20:24 < inode0> here is what I recall hearing last time I attended 20:25 < inode0> mo had a good price on sheets of stickers and was asked to get some additional quotes for smaller runs 20:25 < inode0> then maybe a run of 250 or 500 sheets would be done to quality check 20:25 < inode0> if they are nice go for a really large order 20:26 < inode0> no idea on how those would be distributed though 20:26 < herlo> inode0: next time in proxy for me, can you see about bumper sticker style (actually 1x3) because I think those would go over well. 20:27 < herlo> and if we can't do something like we're planning with media? 20:28 < inode0> 1x3 in what units? 20:28 < herlo> best production costs 20:28 < herlo> probably 1k/quarter at minimum 20:29 < herlo> good for AmbassadorKits 20:31 < herlo> any other comments? 20:31 < herlo> EOM then? 20:32 < herlo> 10 20:32 < herlo> 9 20:32 < herlo> 8 20:32 < herlo> 7 20:32 < herlo> 6 20:32 < herlo> 5 20:32 < herlo> 4 20:32 < herlo> 3 20:32 < herlo> 2 20:32 < herlo> 1 20:32 < herlo> EOF

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ambassadors September 2008