Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2024-05-21
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2024-05-21)
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Meeting started by brainycmurf at 16:24:09 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2024-05-22/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Present members: Neal, Michael, Matthias, Jens, Allan, Chris, Tomáš,
Owen (brainycmurf, 16:24:09)
* Guests: (brainycmurf, 16:24:09)
* Regrets: Kalev (brainycmurf, 16:24:10)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 16:24:12)
* Secretary: Owen (brainycmurf, 16:24:14)
* Improve the quality of the desktop wallpapers & ensure they're
maintained (brainycmurf, 16:24:18)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/293 (brainycmurf,
16:24:20)
* ACTION: Jens to test again and see if he can reproduce a performance
problem with all the upstream wallpapers and make sure there's an
upstream bug. (brainycmurf, 16:24:22)
* ACTION: Allan will reach out to Madeline to invite her to our
meeting (brainycmurf, 16:24:47)
* Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (brainycmurf, 16:24:49)
* this Friday and Saturday is the Fedora 40 release party
(brainycmurf, 16:24:51)
* LINK:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Linux_40_Release_Party_Schedule
(brainycmurf, 16:24:53)
* Neal notes that there's a huge drop in influencer interest in F40
compared to F39 (brainycmurf, 16:24:57)
* Open Floor (brainycmurf, 16:24:59)
Meeting ended at 16:25:01 UTC.
Action Items
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* Jens to test again and see if he can reproduce a performance problem
with all the upstream wallpapers and make sure there's an upstream
bug.
* Allan will reach out to Madeline to invite her to our meeting
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Jens to test again and see if he can reproduce a performance problem
with all the upstream wallpapers and make sure there's an upstream
bug.
* Allan will reach out to Madeline to invite her to our meeting
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (27)
* zodbot (7)
* Neal (0)
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4 weeks
Upgrading Xwayland to version 24.1.0 in Fedora 40
by Olivier Fourdan
Hi all,
Today was released Xwayland 24.1.0, a new stable branch of Xwayland.
That version brings quite a few improvements, among which is support for
explicit GPU synchronization.
This is required to enable explicit GPU synchronization with the next
version of the NVIDIA proprietary graphics driver on Wayland, meaning that
rendering on Wayland and Xwayland with the NVIDIA proprietary graphics
driver should be greatly improved eventually. See the merge request
upstream [1] for more details.
However, that new version of Xwayland also dropped support for EGLStream
[2], since that's not required anymore and and unused with recent versions
of the NVIDIA proprietary driver, which means that anyone with a Kepler GPU
who are stuck with the 470 legacy NVIDIA proprietary graphics driver won't
have hardware acceleration with Xwayland 24.1.0.
For what it's worth, not too long ago EGLStream support was not working in
GNOME Shell for quite some time [3] and that remained mostly unnoticed, as
far as I know.
This message is meant as a heads up because I am considering upgrading
Xwayland to version 24.1.0 in Fedora 40.
The package in rawhide has been updated already [4].
Cheers,
Olivier
[1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/967
[2] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/1386
[3] https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/issues/2925
[4] https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-3ee22c0bfd
1 month
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2024-05-14
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2024-05-14)
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Meeting started by brainycmurf at 02:43:59 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2024-05-15/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Present members: Michael, Neal, Matthias, Jens, Tomas, Allan, Chris,
Owen (brainycmurf, 02:43:59)
* Guests: (brainycmurf, 02:43:59)
* Regrets: (brainycmurf, 02:44:00)
* Missing: Kalev (brainycmurf, 02:44:02)
* Secretary: Matthias (brainycmurf, 02:44:04)
* Meeting will be short because Neal is on conference time.
(brainycmurf, 02:44:06)
* [Proposal] Replace GNOME with KDE in Fedora Workstation (brainycmurf,
02:44:10)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/425 (brainycmurf,
02:44:12)
* ACTION: Michael is going to draft a comment / position statement
(brainycmurf, 02:45:04)
* Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (brainycmurf, 02:45:06)
* Open Floor (brainycmurf, 02:45:16)
Meeting ended at 02:45:18 UTC.
Action Items
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* Michael is going to draft a comment / position statement
Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* Michael is going to draft a comment / position statement
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (42)
* zodbot (7)
* Neal (0)
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1 month
[Testdays] Call for Fedora Linux 41 testing events
by Sumantro Mukherjee
Hi Fedora users, developers, and friends!
It's time to start thinking about Test Days for Fedora 41.
For anyone who isn't aware, a Test Day is an event usually focused
around IRC for interaction and a Wiki page for instructions and results,
with the aim being to get a bunch of interested users and developers
together to test a specific feature or area of the distribution. You can
run a Test Day on just about anything for which it would be useful to do
some fairly focused testing in 'real time' with a group of testers; it
doesn't have to be code, for instance, we often run Test Days for
l10n/i18n topics. For more information on Test Days, see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Test_Days .
Anyone who wants to can host their own Test Day, or you can request that
the QA group helps you out with organization or any combination of the
two. To propose a Test Day, just file a ticket in fedora-qa pagure - here's
an example https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/624 . For
instructions on hosting a Test Day, see
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/SOP_Test_Day_management .
You can see the schedule at https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issues?tags=test+days .
There are many slots open right now. Consider the development
schedule, though, in deciding when you want to run your Test Day - for
some topics you may want to avoid
the time before the Beta release or the time after the feature freeze
or the Final Freeze.
We normally aim to schedule Test Days on Thursdays; however, if you want
to run a series of related Test Days, it's often a good idea to do
something like Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of the same week (this is
how we usually run the X Test Week, for instance). If all the Thursday
slots fill up but more people want to run Test Days, we will open up
Tuesday slots as overflows. And finally, if you really want to run a
Test Day in a specific time frame due to the development schedule, but
the Thursday slot for that week is full, we can add a slot on another
day. We're flexible! Just put in your ticket the date or time frame you'd
like, and we'll figure it out from there.
If you don't want to run your own Test Day, but you are willing to
help with another, feel free to join one or more of already accepted
Test Days:
GNOME Test Day*
i18n Test Day*
Kernel Test Week(s)*
Upgrade Test Day*
IoT Test Week*
Cloud Test Day*
Fedora CoreOS Test Week*
And don't be afraid, there are a lot of more slots available for your
own Test Day!
[*] These are the test days we run generally to make sure everything
is working fine, the dates get announced as we move into the release
cycle.
If you have any questions about the Test Day process, please don't
hesitate to contact me or any member of the Fedora QA team on test at
lists.fedoraproject.org or in #fedora-qa on IRC. Thanks!
--
//sumantro
Fedora QE
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1 month, 1 week
Fedora Workstation WG minutes, 2024-05-07
by Chris Murphy
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#fedora-meeting-2: Workstation WG (2024-05-07)
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Meeting started by brainycmurf at 17:03:35 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2024-05-09/workstation...
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Meeting summary
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* Present members: Michael, Neal, Matthias, Kalev, Owen, Chris, Allan
(brainycmurf, 17:03:35)
* Guests: (brainycmurf, 17:03:35)
* Regrets: Jens, Tomas (brainycmurf, 17:03:36)
* Missing: (brainycmurf, 17:03:38)
* Secretary: Michael (brainycmurf, 17:03:40)
* [Proposal] Replace GNOME with KDE in Fedora Workstation (brainycmurf,
17:03:44)
* LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/425 (brainycmurf,
17:03:48)
* Announcements, follow-ups, status reports (brainycmurf, 17:04:45)
* Open Floor (brainycmurf, 17:04:49)
Meeting ended at 17:04:51 UTC.
Action Items
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Action Items, by person
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* **UNASSIGNED**
* (none)
People Present (lines said)
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* brainycmurf (32)
* zodbot (7)
* Neal (0)
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1 month, 1 week
