Next Open NeuroFedora Meeting: 1300 UTC on Monday, 10 October September (Today)

[Ankur Sinha]

Hello everyone,

Please join us at the next Open NeuroFedora team meeting on Monday 10th
October(today!) at 1300UTC in #fedora-neuro on Matrix or IRC (Libera.chat).
The meeting is a public meeting, and open for everyone to attend. You
can join us over:

Matrix: https://matrix.to/#/#neuro:fedoraproject.org
IRC: https://webchat.libera.chat/?channels=#fedora-neuro

You can use this link to see the local time for the meeting:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=Open+NeuroFedor...

or you can use this command in a terminal:
$ date --date='TZ="UTC" 1300 today'

The meeting will be chaired by @ankursinha. The agenda for the
meeting is:

- New introductions and roll call.
- Tasks from last meeting:
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2022-10-10/neurofedora.202...
- Open Pagure tickets:
https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/issues?status=Open&tags=S%3A+...
- Package health check: https://packager-dashboard.fedoraproject.org/neuro-sig
- Open package reviews check: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
- CompNeuro lab compose status check for F37/F38:
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691
- Neuroscience query of the week
- Next meeting day, and chair.
- Open floor.

We hope to see you there!

The meeting announcement is also posted on the NeuroFedora blog here:
https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/10/09/next-open-neurofedora-meet...

You can learn more about NeuroFedora here:
https://neuro.fedoraproject.org

-- 
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) |
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
Time zone: Europe/London

[Ankur Sinha]

Hi folks,

Here are the logs from today's meeting. The next meeting will again be
in 2 weeks at 1300 UTC on 24th October. See you all then :)

=======================================
#fedora-neuro: NeuroFedora - 2022-10-10
=======================================

Meeting started by FranciscoD_ at 13:00:27 UTC. The full logs are
available at
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2022-10-10/neurofedora.202...
.


Meeting summary
---------------
* Please refer to this wiki page for bot commands:
  https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Guide#MeetBot_Commands
  (FranciscoD_, 13:00:49)
* Agenda is published on the blog here:
 
https://neuroblog.fedoraproject.org/2022/10/09/next-open-neurofedora-meet...
  (FranciscoD_, 13:00:56)
* Introductions and roll call  (FranciscoD_, 13:01:09)

* Tasks from last meeting  (FranciscoD_, 13:05:57)
  * Minutes from last meeting are here:
   
https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-neuro/2022-09-26/neurofedora.202...
    (FranciscoD_, 13:06:35)
  * ACTION: FranciscoD_ correct link in blog post  (FranciscoD_,
    13:06:46)
  * FranciscoD_ look at python-pyABF build issues -> DONE  (FranciscoD_,
    13:08:29)
  * FranciscoD_ update python-mne:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115503 -> WIP: the
    current release doesn't work with the new matplotlib, the next one
    will, so I'll wait for that and then update. I've made a note in the
    bug  (FranciscoD_, 13:10:29)
  * FranciscoD_ fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126115
    -> WIP: It built fine in mock and then failed in koji on i686, so
    gotta check what's up  (FranciscoD_, 13:12:05)
  * ACTION: FranciscoD_ fix
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126115  (FranciscoD_,
    13:13:00)
  * ACTION: FranciscoD_ fix
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115503  (FranciscoD_,
    13:13:23)
  * FranciscoD_ make pynn excludearch s390x -> DONE  (FranciscoD_,
    13:13:36)
  * FranciscoD_ also add excludearch for elephant and efel and epyviewer
    -> DONE  (FranciscoD_, 13:13:48)
  * LINK:
   
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail]...
    (FranciscoD_, 13:17:36)
  * ACTION: Penguinpee add link to ML explanation e-mail to bug
    (FranciscoD_, 13:19:01)
  * LINK: https://github.com/RDFLib/rdflib#versions--releases suggests
    to me that both 6.0.0 and 5.0.0 are in development  (FranciscoD_,
    13:24:16)
  * LINK:
   
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/packaging-guidelines/Conflicts/#_acc...
    (music[m], 13:28:49)
  * LINK: https://github.com/RDFLib/rdflib/releases/tag/6.0.0 doesn’t
    indicate much other than dropped support for old pythons  (music[m],
    13:32:03)
  * LINK: https://paste.centos.org/view/d0776b26   (FranciscoD_,
    13:32:14)
  * LINK: https://github.com/RDFLib/rdflib/blob/main/CHANGELOG.md
    (Penguinpee, 13:34:01)
  * ACTION: Penguinpee ask odml upstream what their plans for rdflib
    6.0.0 are (preferably with a time line)  (FranciscoD_, 13:51:39)

* Open pagure tickets  (FranciscoD_, 13:52:59)
  * No open pagure tickets  (FranciscoD_, 13:53:03)

* Comp-neuro Fedora ISO status check  (FranciscoD_, 13:53:12)
  * https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=30691 ->
    All green, looks good  (FranciscoD_, 13:53:21)

* Open reviews check  (FranciscoD_, 13:53:38)
  * 6 open reviews at
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro -> folks,
    please take these on and review  (FranciscoD_, 13:53:49)
  * Please feel free to ask for review swaps on the -devel list too.
    Great way of working with more package maintainers :)  (FranciscoD_,
    13:54:44)
  * ACTION: neuro-sig review open review tickets:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro
    (FranciscoD_, 13:54:58)

* Package health check  (FranciscoD_, 13:55:27)
  * Packages look in good health---a few FTBFS/FTI bugs: folks please
    work on these and prioritise them, especially if they affect current
    releases (f36, f37)  (FranciscoD_, 13:56:43)
  * Quite a few packages are impacted by python-cached_property being
    orphaned, but it's already been take up by admawill so we're good
    (FranciscoD_, 13:58:11)

* Open floor  (FranciscoD_, 13:58:40)
  * davdunc is referring to this mindshare ticket:
    https://pagure.io/mindshare/issue/93  (FranciscoD_, 13:58:56)

Meeting ended at 14:01:27 UTC.

Action Items
------------
* FranciscoD_ correct link in blog post
* FranciscoD_ fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126115
* FranciscoD_ fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115503
* Penguinpee add link to ML explanation e-mail to bug
* Penguinpee ask odml upstream what their plans for rdflib 6.0.0 are
  (preferably with a time line)
* neuro-sig review open review tickets:
  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro


Action Items, by person
-----------------------
* FranciscoD_
  * FranciscoD_ correct link in blog post
  * FranciscoD_ fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2126115
  * FranciscoD_ fix https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2115503
* Penguinpee
  * Penguinpee add link to ML explanation e-mail to bug
  * Penguinpee ask odml upstream what their plans for rdflib 6.0.0 are
    (preferably with a time line)
* **UNASSIGNED**
  * neuro-sig review open review tickets:
    https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=fedora-neuro


People Present (lines said)
---------------------------
* FranciscoD_ (114)
* Penguinpee (44)
* music[m] (14)
* zodbot (12)
* davdunc[m (5)
* music (0)
* davdunc (0)

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-- 
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) |
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
Time zone: Europe/London

[Sandro]

On 10-10-2022 10:57, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>  - Open floor. 
## Co-maintaining python-pandas

This was on my list for today's meeting. It dropped off my radar.

The package was recently orphaned and picked up by Jonathan Wright 
(jonathanspw)[1]. I assume (haven't checked) that quite some packages in 
the NeuroFedora pool depend on it. If that's true, I think it would make 
sense to take up co-maintenance of the package as neuro-sig.

Please let me know what you think, and I'll get back to Jonathan.

[1] 
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail].o...

-- 
Sandro
FAS: gui1ty
IRC: Penguinpee
Elsewhere: [Pp]enguinpee

[Ankur Sinha]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 16:50:04 +0200, Sandro wrote:
>  On 10-10-2022 10:57, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>  > - Open floor.
>  
>  ## Co-maintaining python-pandas
>  
>  This was on my list for today's meeting. It dropped off my radar.
>  
>  The package was recently orphaned and picked up by Jonathan Wright
>  (jonathanspw)[1]. I assume (haven't checked) that quite some packages in the
>  NeuroFedora pool depend on it. If that's true, I think it would make sense
>  to take up co-maintenance of the package as neuro-sig.
>  
>  Please let me know what you think, and I'll get back to Jonathan.
>  
>  [1]
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail].o...
Thanks for bringing this up, Sandro :)

Pandas is quite a general package that's commonly used by lots of other
Python packages. It isn't exactly neuroscience specific, it's more like
numpy.

So, I think we can perhaps help co-maintain it, but we probably don't
want to be the main maintainers/admins, since it is a dep for us and
we'd rather folks that actively use it directly maintain it?

List of packages depending on python3-pandas is attached.

-- 
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) |
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha
Time zone: Europe/London

[Sandro]

On 10-10-2022 17:16, Ankur Sinha wrote:
>  On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 16:50:04 +0200, Sandro wrote:
> > On 10-10-2022 10:57, Ankur Sinha wrote:
> >> - Open floor.
> >
> > ## Co-maintaining python-pandas
> >
> > This was on my list for today's meeting. It dropped off my radar.
> >
> > The package was recently orphaned and picked up by Jonathan Wright
> > (jonathanspw)[1]. I assume (haven't checked) that quite some packages in the
> > NeuroFedora pool depend on it. If that's true, I think it would make sense
> > to take up co-maintenance of the package as neuro-sig.
> >
> > Please let me know what you think, and I'll get back to Jonathan.
> >
> > [1]
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[e-mail].o...
>  
>  Thanks for bringing this up, Sandro :)
>  
>  Pandas is quite a general package that's commonly used by lots of other
>  Python packages. It isn't exactly neuroscience specific, it's more like
>  numpy.
>  
>  So, I think we can perhaps help co-maintain it, but we probably don't
>  want to be the main maintainers/admins, since it is a dep for us and
>  we'd rather folks that actively use it directly maintain it? 
Jonathan will be the admin maintainer. Being co-maintainer will keep us 
in the loop of updates for (almost) free. ;)

>  List of packages depending on python3-pandas is attached. 
Quite a list. How many of these are, roughly, neuro-sig specific? 
Ballpark figure will do.

I plan on getting back to Jonathan at the end of the week. In case 
others would like to chime in.

-- Sandro

[Ankur Sinha]

On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 21:05:07 +0200, Sandro wrote:
>  <snip>
>  
>  Jonathan will be the admin maintainer. Being co-maintainer will keep us in
>  the loop of updates for (almost) free. ;) 
Sure, that sounds fine, just as long as we're not the primary people who
are expected to take care of the package---we have 300 packages of our
own to look after :)

>  > List of packages depending on python3-pandas is attached.
>  
>  Quite a list. How many of these are, roughly, neuro-sig specific? Ballpark
>  figure will do. 
Not sure, but you can check our package list here:
https://pagure.io/neuro-sig/NeuroFedora/blob/main/f/package-list/list.txt

or here:
https://src.fedoraproject.org/group/neuro-sig

>  I plan on getting back to Jonathan at the end of the week. In case
> others
>  would like to chime in. 
Sounds good, thanks for doing this.

-- 
Thanks,
Regards,
Ankur Sinha (He / Him / His) | https://ankursinha.in
Time zone: Europe/London